Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:03:01 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 12 #499 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2000 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Liability (Erik Kluzek) 2. Western Martial Arts (john.a.mcintosh@bt.com) 3. article; body mechanics (Jye nigma) 4. from another group: root (Jye nigma) 5. Did I miss something? (Bruce Sims) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Erik Kluzek Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:26:22 -0700 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Liability Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > From: "Boit Clinton Capt AF/DPMP" > > Why is it that everyone always states that liability waivers never > protect > you, and then they tell you to have everyone sign them anyways?! > What's the > point to using them if they don't do anything? > A liability waiver doesn't mean someone can't sue you. If you are negligent -- they can sue no matter what they signed beforehand. And to be found negligent you have to be tried in court. What liability waivers do is two-fold: 1.) Make you less likely to be sued... The liability waiver points out to people from the get go that there is potential for injury that they take on themselves. Knowing that they are less likely to sue, since it was brought to their attention, and they signed it. Someone already pointed this aspect out. It's a good one. But the second is the main one... 2.) Limits what the prosecution can say in court. Here's the main reason for their use. By signing a liability waiver -- if you are sued the prosecution CAN NOT claim they DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD GET HURT. That counts for a lot. Without the liability waiver, they can claim that they didn't know there was any possibility for injury. If the prosecution can establish that they didn't know there was any possibility for injury -- your goose is cooked! the liability waiver helps limit that, and ensures that the liability for the injury will be shared by the student and instructor. That can either limit damages or make the jury side with your side and let the student be liable for their own injury. Liability insurance-- Someone asked about liability insurance for an event. I think most insurance will cover a seminar if you already have insurance through them. Martial Arts Group insurance will cover seminars for something like $1.20 per person per day. But, I think you may already have to have a policy with them as a school. We have insurance through Westpoint and they cover us for seminars as long as we don't exceed the number of students our coverage provides. At this point there are several different providers for martial arts liability insurance. Look through some martial arts magazines for some, most have web-pages as well. Martial Arts Group and Westpoint are two off the top of my head. .. Erik Kluzek Colorado !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:40:02 -0000 From: To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Western Martial Arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net George Peters wrote; 'Perhaps you could educate us on the systems (or techniques) that were in western Europe in days of yore? I'm mostly interested in Vikings and their systems, but I have not seen or heard of much documented on this (only alluded to).' Going to butt in quickly before I disappear for the holiday season. A good resource on WMA is 'The Martial Arts of Renaissance Europe by Sydney Anglo', it's a marvellous read and Amazon is selling it for $42.31, well worth the price. Some useful websites for WMA with links to follow: http://www.thehaca.com/ http://hemac.org and a quick web search on viking fighting came up with; http://www.jomsvikings.com http://www.stavinternational.org not sure how authentic these are, it's not my area of expertise. Come to think of it do I have an area of expertise? Merry Christmas to everyone John --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:58:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, MartialArtsTalk@yahoogroups.com, martialstudies@yahoogroups.com, csemt-serrada_escrima@yahoogroups.com, jyesluv@hotmail.com Subject: [The_Dojang] article; body mechanics Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Simple Lesson in Body Mechanics By Christopher Caile A mistake made by many karate-ka and other martial artists is improper pelvis and hip alignment in their front leaning stance. Instead of the pelvis and hips being aligned naturally under the rest of the spine, the hips are pulled backward and out of line by the back leg. The problem is aggravated if the stance is long and low. When the pelvis is tilted backward and not centered, the spine becomes misaligned and the body's center of gravity is pulled off center. This disrupts power. When the hips are not loose and fluid, power cannot flow efficiently up through the legs into the torso through the hips. And if you practice any of the energy arts, such as Ki Ko (Qi gong or Chi Kung in Chinese), natural flow of Ki energy (Qi or Chi in Chinese) is also restricted by this misalignment. Not only is this inefficient, but it could lead to pain and injury if continued. When done properly, the pelvis and low back should remain in the natural curve as much as possible. But many people when in a front leaning stance allow their pelvis to be pulled backwards by their back leg. This causes a misalignment (collapse into extension) of the spine instead of the spine being integrated and balanced as it maintains its natural curvature. When teachers say "keep the spine straight," this is what they mean. So check your front stance: tuck in your hips and activate your abdominal muscles to help counteract the pull from the back leg. Lengthen and elongate your spine so you are in a position for power and energy to flow more easily. You will feel the difference. So will your body. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, itf-taekwondo@yahoogroups.com, csemt-serrada_escrima@yahoogroups.com, MartialArtsTalk@yahoogroups.com, martialstudies@yahoogroups.com Subject: [The_Dojang] from another group: root Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Root means something completely different when you are talking about internal and external arts. External= some muscles are tensed, feet grip the ground. Internal= relaxed all the way down through to the ground. Basically in internal arts the tension is distributed to all muscles, ligaments and tendons equally (ie a tensegrity structure). In kung fu the distribution of tension is not as equal because of a sturdy outwardly (ie external) imposed shape. It's like a ball (internal) vs. a block (external.) Which one is more sturdy? A big heavy block is more solid but you can when you push hard enough it will violently overturn. A ball is always in a stable (or maybe its unstable?) position. Even though you can move it, it never flips over, it just smoothly changes its position. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Did I miss something? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Not to put too fine a point on this but I can say that often I hear a very distinct difference of approach in how people might see participation in the KMA. I was thinking how much this stood out with the comment about using the older term ("dojang") to refer to a place of training. Personally I am not a big fan of using transliterated Japanese terms for use in KMA. However, I would rather keep the idea that I was training both a person's body AND their values than to think of what I do as a kind of "gym" in only the physical sense. Certainly I don't want to go too far the other way and develop a "cult" or become steeped in some sort of magic thinking about "Ki" and ritual. For myself I work to approach the KMA as a way of life and work to instill this in my students. As much as I don't like to use transliterated Japanese, if I had a choice between "dojang" and "gym" I would take "dojang". FWIW. Best Wishes, Bruce __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2005: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest