Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:37:43 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #17 - 14 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Value of skipping a color belt, much less a dan! (sidtkd@aol.com) 2. time flies when (michael tomlinson) 3. Tae Kyun (Rick Clark) 4. Rank (Rudy Timmerman) 5. Re: video clip: arnis/kempo (Brooke Thomas) 6. teaching what you can't do (Jye nigma) 7. RE: Rank (michael tomlinson) 8. RE: teaching what you can't do (Kay Ethier) 9. RE: teaching what you can't do (Rick Clark) 10. Re: Promotions (aburrese@aol.com) 11. Re: New Year's Eve in Seoul (aburrese@aol.com) 12. RE: teaching what you can't do (michael tomlinson) 13. Re: Re: video clip: arnis/kempo (Jye nigma) 14. RE: Re: video clip: arnis/kempo (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:22:33 -0500 From: sidtkd@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Value of skipping a color belt, much less a dan! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I skipped from white belt to green belt missing yellow and orange and then skipped a tip from red/black directly to black belt. You know what? It did me absolutely no good. I felt I didn't deserve black belt when I made it and had a lot of catching up to do. But then after all...the master I later had made up for it by not putting in the kukkiwon form and delaying me one year. See...life IS a zero sum game! Sid --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 12:36:24 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] time flies when Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I agree, when I do my Hapkido class we go for close to two hours and most of the time it goes by in a flash....a lot of times people will say.. "hey it's that late already"?...that tells me everyone is busy with their focus and learning and it also goes fast for me! Michael Tomlinson --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 10:35:56 -0500 From: "Rick Clark" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Tae Kyun Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi, I was wondering if anyone has the Chinese characters for Tae Kyun? Rick Clark "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde www.ao-denkou-kai.org --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Rudy Timmerman Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:00:15 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Rank Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jeff writes: > I've traveled in a fair amount of TKD circles (although mostly > Hapkido and Judo...) and I've never had anybody think twice about > my credentials and ability...at least when they were across from me > intertwined in an act of "pugilism" Hello Jeff: That is the wonderful thing about being on the mat. Seldom we hear people trash talk or question rank of other people they are on the mat with. Such things are usually reserved for the people who sit on the sidelines lol. Who has time to talk when you are doing what you love. Rudy --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:10:14 -0800 (PST) From: Brooke Thomas To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: video clip: arnis/kempo Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ahhh Kempo...the art where I smash you 5 times in the gut, flip you onto your head, strike your neck 5 times, stomp your head, kick you in the groin, and THEN give you 5 finishing blows (all at blinding speed)! We had a demo at our school a few years ago and it seemed that each counter had at least 35 strikes in it. Nothing wrong with it I guess but it just seemed like beating a "dead horse." :-) Brooke Thomas --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:15:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] teaching what you can't do Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I just thought of a question. This question is with respect and to mainly older teachers. How do you teach something that you can't do. For instance, let's say there is a technique that you can't do due to physical reasons, like a jumping split kick into a forward kick. If you yourself are physically unable to do it how do you teach others to do it? I hope I worded this correctly. I thought of this question because I was thinking about obese teachers who teach martial arts and can't do some things because of their weight problem. Jye --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Rank Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:23:46 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Rudy writes: Seldom we hear people trash talk or question rank of other people they are on the mat with. Such things are usually reserved for the people who sit on the sidelines lol. Who has time to talk when you are doing what you love. >> Thanks Rudy...no truer words were ever spoken....I totally agree...nothing is better than a full day of hard practice followed by a big juicy steak and a few Miller Lite's with your workout buddies....to me that is priceless fun... Michael Tomlinson --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Kay Ethier" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] teaching what you can't do Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:28:18 -0500 Organization: Bright Path Solutions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Jye: We have a Cho Dan in our do jang with a brace on his knee. When he shows something he cannot physically do, he explains the movement, explains the part he cannot do or how his knee/leg will be moving differently, and then does the motion. He then helps us to do it the "correct" way. This has been helpful and not confusing. Kay -----Original Message----- From: Jye nigma [mailto:kingjye@yahoo.com] I just thought of a question. This question is with respect and to mainly older teachers. How do you teach something that you can't do. For instance, let's say there is a technique that you can't do due to physical reasons, like a jumping split kick into a forward kick. If you yourself are physically unable to do it how do you teach others to do it? I hope I worded this correctly. I thought of this question because I was thinking about obese teachers who teach martial arts and can't do some things because of their weight problem. Jye --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:29:50 -0500 From: "Rick Clark" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] teaching what you can't do To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net How does Bobby Knight or other football, basketball, baseball coaches teach skills that they can not perform? Rick Clark "I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde www.ao-denkou-kai.org >-----Original Message----- >From: Jye nigma [mailto:kingjye@yahoo.com] >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:16 PM >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] teaching what you can't do > > >I just thought of a question. This question is with respect >and to mainly older teachers. > > How do you teach something that you can't do. For instance, >let's say there is a technique that you can't do due to >physical reasons, like a jumping split kick into a forward >kick. If you yourself are physically unable to do it how do >you teach others to do it? I hope I worded this correctly. I >thought of this question because I was thinking about obese >teachers who teach martial arts and can't do some things >because of their weight problem. > > Jye > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Photos > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in >your hands ASAP. _______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:48:14 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Promotions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray posted: I've also heard that those running a dojang in Korea are 7th Dan or better, so anyone in Korea that takes the chance of opening a dojang/business there automatically becomes a 7th Dan. "Old wives" tale??? ************************* Ray, I know instructors in Korea who are not 7th dan yet. Two instructors I train with (My instructor Lee Jun-kyu and a friend and instructor Kim Hyun) both own schools and they are both 6th dan now. They owned schools as 5th dans as well. I have visited other HKD schools in Korea and have met owners/instructors who were not yet 7th dans as well. Yours in Training, Alain www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:54:57 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: New Year's Eve in Seoul Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray posted an article that included: The Posingak Bell Ringing Ceremony Thousands of people will listen to the magnificent sound of the Posingak Bell ringing in the new year in Chongno, downtown Seoul on the New Yea's Eve. ************************** Ray, Just wanted to thank you (albeit a bit late) for that article that brought back fond memories. I was one of the thousands listening to the bell on New Year's Eve of 2006/2007. My friend Frank and I were down down Seoul for the ceremony. It was quite a night. Thanks for sharing the article. Alain www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] teaching what you can't do Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:59:56 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net We watch the video of it while we are at the KFC buffet...I find that if you can eat 20 pieces of chicken, mashed potatos, cole slaw and apple pie then there is NO technique you can't TALK about... Michael Tomlinson (eating chicken and talking about hapkido right now) oh snap...I forgot about the honey and butter bisquits!!!! --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: video clip: arnis/kempo To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net lol...yeah, I think the first few hits to the groin could be enough....perfect stuff for against someone on drugs I guess. jye Brooke Thomas wrote: Ahhh Kempo...the art where I smash you 5 times in the gut, flip you onto your head, strike your neck 5 times, stomp your head, kick you in the groin, and THEN give you 5 finishing blows (all at blinding speed)! We had a demo at our school a few years ago and it seemed that each counter had at least 35 strikes in it. Nothing wrong with it I guess but it just seemed like beating a "dead horse." :-) Brooke Thomas _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. --__--__-- Message: 14 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: video clip: arnis/kempo Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:10:29 -0000 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Is kempo any good? I don't know a lot about this style. Looks good from what i've seen. -----Original Message----- From: Brooke Thomas [mailto:intv1@pacbell.net] Sent: 09 January 2006 18:10 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: video clip: arnis/kempo Ahhh Kempo...the art where I smash you 5 times in the gut, flip you onto your head, strike your neck 5 times, stomp your head, kick you in the groin, and THEN give you 5 finishing blows (all at blinding speed)! We had a demo at our school a few years ago and it seemed that each counter had at least 35 strikes in it. Nothing wrong with it I guess but it just seemed like beating a "dead horse." :-) Brooke Thomas _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended addressee, do not use, pass on or copy it in any way. 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