Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:20:22 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #36 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: NSAIDs (Howard Spivey) 2. Re: Mas Oyama (Ray) 3. Congratulations Master Hodder (Don Kirsch) 4. Stovall on getting "beat up" (George Peters) 5. Chuck (Ray Terry) 6. Russian Prize Fighter Is Learning Tae Kwon Do (Ray Terry) 7. Re: RE: getting beat up (Ray) 8. Training Guns and Knives (Ray) 9. Referee seminar (Ray Terry) 10. RE: RE: getting beat up (michael tomlinson) 11. Re: Re: Old Masters (jakskru) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Howard Spivey" To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:16:53 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: NSAIDs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net "I have no idea what NSAID is. I'll look it up." NSAIDs = Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. Think Naproxene, the active drug in Aleve. Good luck with your lower back. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Mas Oyama To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:59 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > As for Mas Oyama being senior to Hwang Kee, I am not sure this is true either. > Hwang Kee was born in 1914 and began training at age 7 or 1921 with no breaks > in training. Mas Oyama was born in 1923 and began training in 1932 at the age > of 9 some 11 years after Hwang Kee. Because Mas Oyama had rank issued by > Funakoshi at the Shotokan and Hwang Kee never really had a official rank > issued I don't think we can determine rank by paper issued, but would be > better served by using time in training as a gauge. This would mean Hwang Kee > would be senior to Mas Oyama by 11 years. > > Ray: Do you have any verifiable evidence to suggest this is incorrect. Mas Oyama was already a 4th or 5th dan by the time the MDK opened in 1945. So he would have been the same rank as Lee Won Kuk and Yoon Byung In, the two senior most kwan leaders c1945. wrt Hwang Kee's training, unfortunately there is much dispute as to exactly what and when he trained. e.g. we do know that he claimed to study KukSul when he worked for the Manchurian RR c1935, but other seniors at the time dismissed this claim. It is likely that Hwang Kee picked up a some here and some there thru the years, especially from people like Lee Won Kuk and perhaps even Mas Oyama, but clearly he did not study seriously from the age of seven onward. Either way, we just do not know and likely never will. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:09:59 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Congratulations Master Hodder Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I too would like to extend my congratulations and best wishes to Master Hodder on the move and new location of HKMA dojang in Seabrook, TX. To any one in the greater Houston area I would recommend you take advantage of having someone of Master Hodder's skills and teaching ability so close by. I know if I were in the area my kicks could be improved through his "bag of training tricks and techniques". Regards, Don Kirsch --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:56:17 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Stovall on getting "beat up" Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, Yes, Sir, because it's a frigging BLAST! I work out with my son for college football in the off season, and have not noticed any problems on the mat as a result of my out of the dojang regimien. My recovery time is not what it was, but if you learn to deal with this, one is not relgated to the sideline. Being more than a little "touched" helps also. Respectfully, George --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:56:49 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Chuck Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Celebrity Profile: Chuck Norris The eyes of 'The Ranger' are upon you Daniel Brock, Staff Writer tec Online January 18, 2006 Carlos Ray Norris is unquestionably the "baddest man on the planet." Chuck, as he's known around the world, has kicked more butt than anyone around. He's laid the smack down in Dallas and the Delta Force, and he's done it with arguably the steeliest gaze ever captured on film. However, that is just one bad to the bone side of Chuck Norris. As the 80's Monster Ballads CD commercial says, "Even bad boys have a soft side." And while Chuck Norris's soft side would still break any man's spirit, it's comparably soft to his normally iron will. Norris has fought his way to the top (literally). Contrary to popular belief, Norris was not spawned of the elements. Born in 1940 in Ryan, Oklahoma Norris was raised in Torrance, California. After graduating high school, Norris joined the Air Force. The Air Force might not sound that extreme, but the plan was to use Chuck himself as a bomb. Fortunately things never escalated to the point where they needed to use Weapons of Chuck Destruction (WCD's). During a stint in Korea, Norris began studying Tang Soo Do, an Asian martial arts form. Norris's reign of destruction really began in 1964 when he began crushing opponents in martial arts tournaments. Between '64 and '68 Norris won innumerable amateur karate titles. In 1968 he grew tired of man handling inferior adversaries and entered the World Professional Middle Weight Karate Championship. Not only did he win the title that year, he won it the next five years and retired in 1974 as the undefeated champion. In 1997 Norris became the first person in the Western Hemisphere to achieve 8th degree Black Belt Grand Master status in the Tae Kwon Do system, and he's in the Black Belt Hall of Fame three times. Not one to hoard his knowledge, Norris became a top-notch instructor as well. Some of his high profile pupils have included Steve McQueen, Priscilla Presley, Bob Barker and Donnie and Marie Osmond, which goes to show that Norris is both a little bit country and a little bit rock n' roll. Norris has also enjoyed an amazing acting career. He gave incendiary performances in Missing in Action I, II and III and who didn't love him in the ground breaking Delta Force films? Norris and his beard have starred in other action classics like The Octagon, Forced Vengeance and Silent Rage as well. Norris may be remembered most for his "tour de force" portrayal of Ranger Cordell Walker on the massively popular television series Walker, Texas Ranger. Along with his partner Jimmy Trivette, assistant county district attorney Alex Cahill (a sultry Sheree J. Wilson) and retired Ranger C.D. Parker, Walker and Co. dished out old fashioned justice every Saturday night on CBS for eight magical seasons. When the show wrapped in 2001 fans everywhere mourned, but it was not the last we would see of Norris as Walker. Conan O'Brien introduced the insanely popular "Walker, Texas Ranger Lever" on his show, and in October, 2005 the made for TV movie Walker, Texas Ranger: Trial by Fire aired to critical and popular acclaim. There's an old saying that says you can't win'em all. Well Chuck Norris stomps on that notion like he stomps on bad guys. Always looking for action Norris started racing powerboats. Often time reaching speeds in excess of 140 mph, Norris put the pedal to the metal. In 1991 he and his team won the World Offshore Power Boat Championships. Just for kicks Norris then decided to set a new world record by racing a 38-foot Scarab boat from Chicago to Detroit in 12 hours and eight minutes. But Norris isn't all beat downs and boat races. His 1988 biography The Secret of Inner Strength became a New York Times Best-Seller. An eight minute United Way commercial that he was involved with raised two billion dollars. Walker, Texas Ranger won the Epiphany Award for Best Christian Program, and he was Jewish Humanitarian of the Year (how can that even be?). He won the BMI Television Music Award for the Walker, Texas Ranger theme, which he sang. He's also in the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and he's a commissioned police officer in Terrell, Texas. Chuck Norris reigns supreme everywhere he goes. Any of his characters could take Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse and Rambo ... at the same time. As for infomercials and product schilling everyone knows that The Total Gym 2000 runs shop on John Basedow and his Fitness Made Simple programs. It seems that Chuck Norris mania is sweeping the land, and after reading this article it is easy to see why. Chuck Norris is undoubtedly the man. If you have a problem with that, talk to Norris about it. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:59:04 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Russian Prize Fighter Is Learning Tae Kwon Do Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Russian Prize Fighter Is Learning Tae Kwon Do Digital Chosunilbo "I am learning Tae Kwon Do to make myself stronger," says Emelianenko Fedor (30), aka the "Ice Fist," who has come to Korea for the first time. Pride FC's heavyweight champion said in a press conference at Seoul's Lotte Hotel, "Personally I think that Russian Sambo is the most powerful martial art, but to increase my kicking ability, I am focusing on Tae Kwon Do now." And he added, "In competitive fighting practice, Tae Kwon Do is indispensable". Fedor and his younger brother are in the midst of a five-day trip to the country to promote Sambo at the invitation of the Korean Sambo Alliance. An acronym of the Russian words "SAMozaschita Bez Orujiya", which means "Self-Defense Without Weapons", Sambo is Russia's unique martial art. Fedor is expected to give a Sambo exhibition match with his brother Aleksander on Friday at the campus of Kyungnam University and attend a Sambo Festival in the weightlifting gymnasium in Seoul's Olympic Park on Saturday. Fedor said he often enjoys ginseng tea and also showed an interest in Korean culture. "I'll take a look around Gyeongbok Palace and the National Museum of Korea on Thursday," he said. "I am just really thankful for the warm welcome that Koreans showed me when I arrived at the airport." On Korean fighter Choi Hong-man, Fedor expressed his interest, saying, "Last year I saw him in action during a match-up with Remy Bonjasky." Fedor beat Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira of Brazil and captured the Pride FC Heavyweight championship in 2003. And also Fedor defeated Mirko Fillipovic (Croatia), a master of high kicks, proving once-and-for-all that he is the world's greatest. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: getting beat up To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:03:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > ... I guess any 50 year olds out there who like slugging > it out with their juniors would just say "because it's a frigging > BLAST". Exactly! Ray "54" Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:35:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Training Guns and Knives Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Practice Practice Practice... >From: "Jim Lindell, NLETC" >Subject: Training Guns and Knives >Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:46:56 -0500 (EST) > >Cast aluminum training guns and knives > >Dear Ray, > >Most law enforcement trainers prefer to use all >metal training guns for retention, disarming and >situational training because you won't find >criminals carrying plastic guns. > >Our aluminum training guns are two-thirds the >weight of real guns, which allows you to >identify with the weight and feel of a real gun >on your hip and in your hand when practicing >retention and disarming tactics. These aluminum >guns will not break, chip or cause lacerations. > >*** Available Models *** > > Code 000 - Aluminum Training Knife
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