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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Stovall's Analysis (FirstPe315@aol.com) 2. More Moo Duk Kwan (Patch Info) (Erik Brann) 3. RE: More Chuck (Stovall, Craig) 4. Monasteries (Bruce Sims) 5. Elite performance camp (Ray Terry) 6. Re: Stovall's Analysis (Thomas Gordon) 7. Ref Seminars (Ray Terry) 8. SportAccord Exhibition (Ray Terry) 9. RE: UFC Gracie and Hughes (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: FirstPe315@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:01:37 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Stovall's Analysis Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Craig - Matt Hughes works out with world class athletes and Royce doesn't...excuse me! The Gracie's (oldest 2 brothers included) may be arguably the best trio in Grappling! I think their staple of fighters is amazing! You think Matt will "out-physical" him. Tell that to Akebono! The 450lb. Sumo Grandchampion got tapped out in about 1:30 by Royce and Royce was on his back the entire time. And the last time I checked, Ken Shamrock was at the top of his game when Royce submitted him in about 60 seconds. Sorry, but this is more evenly matched than you think. I think Matt Hughes is a stud. I love him! The Gracie's don't have much of a stand-up game, that's is sure! But if they go to the ground...I don't know!!!! Question to everyone...do you think Royce will stay with the Gi...or do you think he'll got with MMA attire (i.e. practically nothing). Jeff --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Erik Brann" To: , "'Tammy Cardilli'" Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:45:16 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] More Moo Duk Kwan (Patch Info) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all. First of all, I would like to thank Mr. Burdick for the excellent article regarding origins of Tae Kwon Do. It is helping me solidify some information which I am teaching here in Maine. On to my question. I train in a Moo Duk Kwan style, and we use the Moo Duk Kwan patch on our dobok, however, our patch is gold on black rather than gold on midnight blue. I'm trying to find the symbolism of the black, and when this drift occurred. Our school is in process of developing a course curriculum in print form after many years of verbal tradition. I recognize that we have drifted away in certain areas but we are trying to get ourselves so we are giving correct information. Thanks for your help. Erik Brann --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:18:34 -0600 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: More Chuck Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> If you do Google searches on Chuck Norris, Mr. T, and Vin Diesel you should come up with quite few of these sites. It's quite the internet phenomenon evidently, but I just got hip to it a couple of months ago. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Sims To: Ray Terry Subject: [The_Dojang] Monasteries Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dear Dakin: I read your piece on the formative years for Taekwondo and was rewarded with having many questions answered about the place of KONG SOO DO. KJN Myung studied this prior to investing himself in Hapkido but I had yet to find anyone who addressed KONG SOO DO in any detail. Thanks again. BTW: Do you know of anyone who is researching the role of the monasteries as shelters for instruction in Korean martial traditions during the occupation? There are occasional insights as with the trip to Korea of Dr. Kimm and his entourage. I wonder if anyone is actually attempting to do an organized review of the role of these institutions. Thoughts? Best Wishes, Bruce __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:49:28 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Elite performance camp Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net ELITE & OLYMPIC PERFORMANCE CAMP Since opening their doors nine years ago, Jean Lopez and Paris Amani, have firmly established their dominance in the area of athlete development and competitive excellence. Through the direction of the trainers and coaches: Lopez and Amani, Elite Taekwondo continues to maintain its status as the most successful Taekwondo training facility in the United States. It is the indisputable effectiveness of the training methodology developed by Lopez and Amani that makes Elite the most sought after training environment for serious competitors. This methodology produced three gold medals and one bronze medal at the 2005 world championships. Mr. Lopez and Mr. Amani assisted by Steven, Mark, Diana, Mandy and their other internationally ranked athletes will conduct six (6) training sessions. The curriculum for these sessions will be intensely concentrated, goal and result specific, and readily integrated into individuals' current training regiment. Each participant will receive personal feedback at the end of the final session. The training is held at the Elite training facility in Sugarland. Enrollment is limited due to maximum allowable capacity. Additionally, participants for the ELITE & OLYMPIC PERFORMANCE CAMP must be ten (10) years old and older. The first training session will begin at 7:00am on Saturday, January 28th and the final session will conclude by 3:00pm on Sunday, January 29th. There will be a total of six (6) sessions at ninety (90) minutes in duration each. Advance enrollment and paid deposit are required to guarantee inclusion, again, as space will be limited. The completed application and two hundred dollars ($200) deposit must be postmarked no later than Monday January 23rd, 2006. FAXED APPLICATIONS AND CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS ARE PREFERRED. PLEASE FAX TO: (281) 498-8646. The total cost for this learning experience is four ($499) hundred ninety nine dollars which may be paid at anytime prior to January 23rd. We will accept personal checks cashier checks, money orders, and credit cards. Come spend the weekend training with the two premier Taekwondo coaches/trainers and the most competitively successful Taekwondo athletes in US history. "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN OLYMPIAN TO TRAIN LIKE ONE" For additional information and/or an application packet contact: Master Paris Amani parisamani@sbcglobal.net --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:59:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Stovall's Analysis From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Royce Gracie beat a 6’8”, 480+ man, that’s impressive. Too bad Chad Rowan (Akebono) record isn’t very impressive being 0-2-0 (for MMA) His Sumo record was better at 566-198. A world of difference in Sumo and MMA. And for whatever reason, Chad Rowan decided to make his debut into MMA with Royce Gracie. Not the brightest decision in the world. The second fight with Shamrock went to decision after 36 minutes and declared a draw. I think Royce will fight in his uniform. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:50:34 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Ref Seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Referee Seminars Date: January 27, 2006 Location: Archie Brooks Community Center 2100 SE 5th St. Des Moines, IA 50315 Host: Voorhees Taekwondo Larry Voorhees Instructor: Anne Chase Date: February 14, 2006 Location: Premier Martial Arts 5100 Telegraph Ave., Suite K Ventura, CA Host: California Taekwondo Association Contact: Jim Evans Instructors: Greg Kailian & Jim Evans Date: February 24, 2006 Location: 31st NCTA Championships 575 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02138 Host: MIT Sport Taekwondo Club Daniel Chuang Instructors: Greg Kailian & Victoria Serbin --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:25:28 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] SportAccord Exhibition Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net SportAccord Exhibition Space Sold Out With 3 Months To Go wtf.org With just under three months to go before the opening day, regular exhibition stand space is sold out for the 4th annual SportAccord convention at the Grand InterContinental Hotel in Seoul, South Korea on April 3-7, 2006 , according to the Jan. 17, 2006, press release of SportAccord. Since it launched in 2003, SportAccord has rapidly become known as the place to meet International Sports Federations. SportAccord is owned by GAISF (General Association of International Sports Federations), ASOIF (Association of Summer Olympic International Federations) and AIOWF (Association of the International Olympic Winter Federations), whose 100 members include the global governing bodies of sports such as football (FIFA), athletics (IAAF), skiing (FIS) and swimming (FINA). SportAccord brings together representatives from the International Federations affiliated to GAISF, ASOIF and AIOWF, as well as the International Olympic Committee (IOC) Executive Board, to discuss the key issues facing the sports movement alongside sponsors, architects, sports lawyers, broadcasters and other specialists. The convention includes open conference sessions, workshops, seminars, scheduled networking opportunities and an exhibition, all scheduled around the Associations' meetings. In 2006, SportAccord is visiting Asia for the first time, following its successful event last year in Berlin. In the German capital the mayors of all five of the cities bidding for the 2012 Olympic Games gave presentations, alongside key figures in world sport such as IOC President Jacques Rogge, Acting President of GAISF Hein Verbruggen and Vice President of the 2006 FIFA World Cup Germany organising committee Wolfgang Niersbach. This year SportAccord has once again attracted major exhibitors including UK Trade & Investment – which is also a Silver Sponsor of the conference – the Seoul Olympic Sport Promotion Foundation, Comunidad Valenciana and the XV Pan American Games Rio 2007. Although the exhibitor places are already taken, there is a waiting list now in place in case more stands become available. For further information on exhibiting at SportAccord , please contact Fiona Lunnon on the details given below. SportAccord has also secured nine Sponsors for the 2006 event, including two Gold Sponsors – IEC in Sports and The Contemporary Group. IEC in Sport s will be a Gold Sponsor of the event for the third consecutive year. Stockholm-headquartered IEC in Sports is principally involved in the distribution of television rights for sporting events and television coordination of those events. The company represents clients on all continents and distributes television rights worldwide to television stations and media companies. "SportAccord is the ideal forum in which to showcase our products and services and we very much look forward to getting together with current and prospective clients in Seoul next April. We feel sure our presence at SportAccord will continue to help grow our global business," explains Jonas Persson, Chief Executive of IEC in Sports. The Contemporary Group is a world-renowned specialist in staging premier international sports and entertainment events. It has participated in events including the Olympic Games in Athens, Sydney, Atlanta and Salt Lake City, the NFL Super Bowls since 1977, the Ryder Cup and the Academy Awards. It reported that SportAccord 2005, held in Berlin, had been a huge success for the company. Richard Bezemer, Principal of The Contemporary Group, says: "SportAccord 2005 was a tremendous success for The Contemporary Group, and we couldn't be more pleased to return as Gold Sponsors in 2006. The convention represents a singular opportunity for our event professionals to interact with an extraordinary group of delegates from throughout the global sports movement. We are particularly excited by the topics of this year's plenary sessions and knowledge exchange workshops. Everyone at The Contemporary Group is looking forward to another outstanding experience this year in Seoul." In a first for SportAccord, there will also be three sports federations exhibiting: the international archery federation, FITA; the European Go Cultural Centre; and the global governing body of basketball, FIBA, which is also a Bronze Sponsor of the conference. "SportAccord is the perfect environment in which to promote FIBA and its activities to the IOC, the International Federations and to those companies specialising in sports," explains Aldo Vitale, Director of Study Centre for FIBA. For more information on SportAccord, contact: Anna Hellman, General Manager, SportAccord, CMC, CH-1860 Aigle, Switzerland. Tel: +41 (0)24 468 5972 Fax: +41 (0)24 468 5812 Email: info@sportaccord.com Fiona Lunnon, Sales & Marketing Manager, Tel: +44 (0)207 963 7890 Fax: +44 (0)207 963 7894 --__--__-- Message: 9 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] UFC Gracie and Hughes Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:31:54 -0000 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Can someone please tell me when exactly this fight will take place. Thank you Peter RULDS2? -----Original Message----- From: jakskru [mailto:jakskru@sbcglobal.net] Sent: 24 January 2006 02:12 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] UFC Gracie and Hughes excellent analysis...i too think hughes is just too tough... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] UFC Gracie and Hughes > On paper, this is a nightmare fight for anyone, much less a 39 year old > guy who hasn't been a MMA contender in quite some time. I just don't > see how Royce can beat him. Here's my "expert" analysis: > > > > Physicality: Royce cannot compete with Hughes on a pure physical basis. > The age factor is there. The more glaring difference to me is in the > body types. I don't know whether they're going to fight at 170 or 185, > but Royce looks like a starved chicken in the mid-190's and Hughes > always looks "jacked" at 170. The bottom line is that Hughes can > probably walk around at any weight between 175 and 190, and cut the > weight to make 170 come weigh ins. Hughes is purportedly one of the > strongest individuals fighting MMA at any weight class. He is > considered somewhat of a freak. Royce has an obvious reach and height > advantage, but this ain't boxing. > > > > Camps: Hughes trains and fights out of Miletich Fighting Systems. He > basically has a bullpen full of world class fighters that he can train > with. Horn, Lawler, Miletich, Eilers, Sylvia, Stephens, Neer, etc. > Guys like Rich Franklin come there all the time to train. Royce just > doesn't have that kind of a camp to my knowledge. Iron sharpens iron, > and Hughes is playing with the harder metal IMHO. > > > > Technical: Hughes is a better stand-up fighter. Hughes rules the > takedowns against anyone you can think of, much less a skinny Royce > Gracie. There's no way in hell Royce can put Hughes on his back and > keep him there for long, so he's going to have to play guard. That's > fine with Matt, he's arguably one of the best GNP fighters in the world. > Royce might have a slight edge on submissions, but Matt is no slouch. > See the Trigg fights and the GSP fight for proof. He's also coming off > a win by Kimura against Joe Riggs. Matt can finish. > > > > Mental: Royce is tough as hell and won't quit. Hughes may be the Devil > himself. Matt removed all doubt for me in the second fight with Trigg > when he got out of the RNC, and then proceeded to pick up Trigg and run > across the cage with him. That is just pure...mental...toughness. Matt > is also not short of confidence. > > > > Experience: I'm sorry, but there's a big difference between beating Ron > Van Clief's ass and getting in there with Trigg, GSP, Penn, Newton, > Sherk, etc. Hughes has flat out beaten tougher opposition. > > > > Prediction: Hughes by KO or choke. > > > > By the way, I'll actually be rooting for Royce. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. 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