Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:01:45 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #74 - 12 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Police nab European TKD medalist (Ray) 2. Spandex and beyond (Stovall, Craig) 3. RE: Spandex and Beyond (Stovall, Craig) 4. UK (Bob Banham) 5. RE: UK (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) 6. RE: Where in the UK ru based? (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) 7. RE: Where in the UK ru based? (Rick Clark) 8. Jackson Event (Thomas Gordon) 9. Countries participating in the US Open (updated list) (Ray Terry) 10. What is: Yu - Won - Hap (mdealba@pacbell.net) 11. Grand-ma-rtial art (Ray) 12. FW: Request for help from Master Dan Alaska (Dan Scholten) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:57:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Police nab European TKD medalist Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Police Nabs European Taekwondo Medallist for Drugs Dealing Politics: 10 February 2006, Friday. Sofia News Agency Bronze medallist from the European Taekwondo championship in Dublin, Nikolay Chu Le-Chong along with another man have been arrested for drugs possession and dealings. Chu Le-Chong, 19, and Petar Valeriev, 21, both from the northern town Vratsa have been detained on Thursday and now police asked the prolonging of the arrest. Colonel Ivan Salov, head of the Vratsa police explained that the case has been investigated for months. According to unconfirmed information the two are part a drugs dealing group working in Northwest Bulgaria. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:18:27 -0600 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Spandex and beyond Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Rob Wood writes, <<>> Well, I would describe our club as MMA for lack of a better term, and I can honestly say that that blanket statement doesn't apply to me, my partners, my students, or our instructors. The curriculum is quite deep, the technical demands are impressive, the conditioning requirements are frightening, and the journey is never ending. In other words, much like any good TMA school. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:21:10 -0600 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Spandex and Beyond Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> Actually, I thought your comments were well put and seemed to come from a well informed base. Nice post. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Bob Banham" To: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:30:02 -0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] UK Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net After reading the recent posts between UK practitioners (Dave Marriot is one of our UK Hanmudo 3rd dans - Hi Dave!) , I would like to offer an open initation to any list members who are in Europe to visit us in Norwich. Details of our exact whereabouts are on site at www.chilsong.com Bob --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] UK Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:59:45 -0000 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've visited your web site and it looks good. I have a comp next month. I have a feeling that it may be in your part of the world. All the best hope to meet up soon. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Bob Banham [mailto:bob@chilsong.com] Sent: 10 February 2006 19:30 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] UK After reading the recent posts between UK practitioners (Dave Marriot is one of our UK Hanmudo 3rd dans - Hi Dave!) , I would like to offer an open initation to any list members who are in Europe to visit us in Norwich. Details of our exact whereabouts are on site at www.chilsong.com Bob _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended addressee, do not use, pass on or copy it in any way. If you have received it in error, please delete it immediately and telephone the supplied number, reversing the charges if necessary. --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Where in the UK ru based? Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:16:07 -0000 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I don't have a problem driving long distances but on a week day when I have to go to work that's a problem. I have driven in the mid west with those long straight wide roads. We don't really have roads like those. And the ones that are like that are chocker block with traffic or have the every pernicious speed cameras. Don't I go on! Train hard -----Original Message----- From: Rick Clark [mailto:rick.aodenkou@verizon.net] Sent: 09 February 2006 22:49 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Where in the UK ru based? Hi guys, >[mailto:PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk] >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Where in the UK ru based? > > >Ooh- er... Sheffield that's a bit far I live in Kent. But if >I am ever >in that part of the world ii will be sure to look you guys up. Oh come on guys, M20 to the M25 and then up the M1, 3hrs (+ or - 15 or 20 min) and either one of you are there. Its not across the world, just a hop, skip, and a jump! It is funny we in the US and you in the UK see things different. For me a 3 hr drive is not a big deal, I'll drive that to visit my sister in law, eat and talk then drive home. Think nothing of it. We just don't see distance in the same way. But I was in Brighton and was walking through the Pavilion there - it was built by King George. For us that's a long time ago, for you guys that's a new building :-) I start out in Indiana and then go to Cork, off to Edinburgh, Hull, to Brighton to Cardiff and points in between to teach. Its not that big of a deal to drive :-) Rick Clark www.ao-denkou-kai.org _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended addressee, do not use, pass on or copy it in any way. If you have received it in error, please delete it immediately and telephone the supplied number, reversing the charges if necessary. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:40:41 -0500 From: "Rick Clark" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Where in the UK ru based? To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Peter, >I don't have a problem driving long distances but on a week day when I have to go to work that's a problem. I have driven >in the mid west with those long straight wide roads. We don't really have roads like those. Oh come on Peter - the M25 is a wonderful place to park your car :-) This is a perfect example of why guns are so hard to own in the UK! God only knows if you had them over there you would have so many deaths due to road rage you could not count them all! :-) > And the ones that are like that are chocker block with traffic or have the every pernicious speed cameras. Don't I go on! Train hard Driving the M25 does give you a chance to practice patience and perseverance that's for sure. Rick Clark www.ao-denkou-kai.org --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:15:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Gordon" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Jackson Event Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just booked three rooms for the Jackson event. I needed more for some of our students but they were out "for that event's block" so we'll have to regroup. Hope you've booked your room if intend on going. See ya in a few weeks! Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:26:17 -0800 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Countries participating in the US Open (updated list) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net U.S. Open (Taekwondo) List of Participating Countries Country Albania Aruba Australia Austria Bahrain Brazil Canada Chile China Colombia Congo Costa Rica Cote D'ivoire Croatia Cuba Denmark Dominican Republic Egypt Gabon Germany Ghana Guatemala Hungary Iceland India Iran Iraq Israel Japan Jordan Mexico Morocco Nepal Netherlands Nigeria Norway Pakistan Panama Peru Philippines Romania Russia Saint Lucia Senegal Serbia And Montenegro Sweden Taiwan UK USA --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "mdealba@pacbell.net" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:15:21 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] What is: Yu - Won - Hap Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello Sir, I noticed that this question was never addressed for you, and that the topic went on a where are you located tangent. So, I thought I'd try to help with your origninal question. Actually, there was a good deal of dissussion on another forum about "What is Tae Guk" and I ended up including the aspects of Umm-Yang (which include Yu-won-Hap). Here is a copy of my reply which addresses your original quesition: Re: So what exactly IS a Taeguek anyway? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Greetings gentlemen, Not to beat a dead horse, but I thought I'd add a couple more rays of light on the subject. Let me say that all of these posts are right on target. They are all covering the same subject from different angles, but the basic information is in fact all here. I can totally relate to the language problems as I had my fair share with my various Korean instructors. Especially while living in Korea. What I will add is that, as Sr. Master Eisenhart put so well, the fountain of this philosophy comes from the Chinese Yin-Yang / I Ching knowledge. The basic terms we see in Korean are virtual translations from their Chinese counterparts. Such as: Tae Guk = Tai Chi = Grand Ultimate Umm / Yang = Yin / Yang = Soft / Hard, (Heaven / Earth, etc.) By studying many of the Chinese classics such as the I Ching, and the Tao Te Ching, etc. one can begin to really make sense of the many philosophical components of our Korean martial arts. Lastly, it might also be useful to understand that the Umm / Yang philosophy goes beyond the "opposites as part of the one" aspect and Umm / Yang are comprised of three elements each. They are: Umm - Yu (Soft, Yielding) - Won (Circular, Flowing) - Hap (To Unite, Bring Together) Yang - Kang (Hard, Unyielding) - Kok (Linear, Angular) - Kan (To Separate, Keep Apart) As one can see, they are reciprocal to each other in terms of components of the two Umm / Yang elements. If you can imagine a "hard technique" and a similar "soft technique" you will see their correlations manifest in a tangible manner. For example, take a punch defense. Hard technique (Such as a common TKD move): Middle block, reverse punch to ribs (most likely followed by a foot sweep and stomp or down punch, etc). The block is hard and angular, the contact causes space, and the punch can crack the ribs. Think of a hard ball bullet. Soft technique (Such as a common HKD move): Inward parry, circle hand, trap, counter palm to ribs (most likely followed with an outside wrist lock, throw, lock up, etc) The parry is soft and circular and causes a joining of opponents, the wrist is held and controlled, the palm strike will attack an internal organ, and the energy will blow out the rear. Think of a hollow point bullet. In this way a more full understanding of the Umm / Yang concept and it's applications to our martial art(s) and the actual techniques will begin to unfold. Hope this helps. With brotherhood, Grand Master De Alba If you want more info on the Tae Guk subject in question, try this link: http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29244&page=2 OK, best of luck to you. Farang! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:46:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [The_Dojang] Grand-ma-rtial art Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://uk.news.yahoo.com/10022006/1/grand-ma-rtial-art.html Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:26:24 -0900 From: Dan Scholten To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] FW: Request for help from Master Dan Alaska Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >>>>> Master Dan Command? We have started all our TKD students on the Presidents fit... Command? Champions program with online activity logs. This has real... Command? students to train more regular as they earn points for eac... Command? earning medals. >>>>> >>>>> Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored: > > > > We have also added a computer with web cam in the Dojang and would like to > communicate with other Dojangs by Yahoochat and web cam so the students > could interact with other students as a cultural exchange. > > > > Do any other Dojangs out there have this capability??? Please respond with > your email address for Yahoo Chat > > > > WE eventually hope to live web cast classes so the students In remote Eskimo > villages can watch and train > > > > Thanks for your thoughts or help in this mater. > > > > Master Dan Scholten > > > > Nome Tae Kwon Do Academy Nome Alaska --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest