Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:01:58 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #90 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: old but interesting article (Jye nigma) 2. Re: Yu, Won, Hap (Wha) principle (Jye nigma) 3. Re: Re: Limitation (Jye nigma) 4. RE: Re: Certification (Jason Thomas (Y!)) 5. white man martial arts. (MSKBEvans@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:20:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] old but interesting article To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net interesting indeed. I wonder though, why was i fortunate that the southern Korea's attempt was unsuccessful? jye Ray Terry wrote: The Blue House raid was one of the most bizarre incidents in the history of two Korean states, but Seoul attempted to retaliate in an equally peculiar manner. Fortunately, this attempt was also unsuccessful. But that is another story… --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Yu, Won, Hap (Wha) principle To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net nice post. This reminds me of similar conversations I have about internal arts vs external arts, and the focus of each. jye "mdealba@pacbell.net" wrote: It appears that my original reply didn't get through, so, I'll try to reconstruct it so as to complete the idea I was trying to get across in this other reply. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Limitation To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net bruce try clearing your internet cache, and then try to post and then access the digest again. see if this helps. While in internet options, click on delete files, and you may want to try deleting cookies as well. jye Beungood8@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/17/2006 11:37:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: I have noticed an intersting pattern with the DOJANG DIGEST for the last couple of months. a.) I make a post. b.) Following that post I am unable to access the DIGEST. c.) This limitation disappears after about a week to 10 days. d.) I make another post. e.) The pattern repeats. I am currently in the fourth or fifth repeat of this cycle. This does not happen when I use another computer not my own. Anyone else having this experience? Best Wishes, Bruce Have you noticed the Limos with tinted windows following you around? _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Jason Thomas \(Y!\)" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Certification Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:03:54 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray wrote: >Gotta agree with you here. This, imho, is one of the reasons Gen. Choi was >removed as head of the KTA. The SK gov didn't want a one-man >organization/art >that would splinter or collapse when the leader died. Kim Un-yong "dies" >(goes to jail) and the WTF & Kukkiwon continue on as strong as ever. I can't argue that either. Martial Arts orgs do splinter when the leader dies... My main problem is that people change their opinion often based on their situation, current opinions and circumstances. For example, just 11 months ago Master Maldonado proclaimed the ITF one of the two only real certification bodies: >To: Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:19:38 >-0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Maldonado and certs Reply-To: >the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Manuel Maldonado >[mailto:sudomakki2003@hotmail.com] >I've said this in the past and I'll say it again if your"Master" isn't KKW >Certified or ITF certified the his/her certificate isn't worth the paper >its wrote on. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: MSKBEvans@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:03:45 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] white man martial arts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<<<<<1. There are no indigenous White man Martial Arts dating back hundreds if not thousands of years with history and culture. >>>>> Funny. I have never seen a eastern fight book showing techniques in detail, that was not modern. The "white man" has a rich history of fighting systems and self defense schools and there are quite a few surviving text to study. http://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest