Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:02:25 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #160 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: 19th C. Cane Article (Lila Ralston) 2. Athlete Development Camp (Ray Terry) 3. Cane techniques (Ray) 4. stock canes (Robert Hartley) 5. the cane (Don Kirsch) 6. RE: Cane techniques (michael tomlinson) 7. Re: Cane Masters (tim walker) 8. Re: Cane techniques (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Lila Ralston" To: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:27:23 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: 19th C. Cane Article Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net That's interesting. I had read Sherlock Holmes' mention of "Baritsu" and was wondering if Conan Doyle had just totally made it up. Apparently not. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:04:33 -0700 From: "Ray Terry" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Athlete Development Camp Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs will play host to an Athlete Development Camp as well to a Level I – Introducing Sport Taekwondo Seminar. The camp will run from June 5-9, 2006, with the coaching seminar running from June 9-10. Both the USAT camp and seminar are hosted and delivered by the High Level Training Center Program. The purpose of the Athlete Development Camp is to develop and reinforce the athlete pipeline. Athletes who have been identified from the past year's events will be given preferential placement in the camp. After the pre-registration phase, the camp will be opened for a select number of aspiring athletes and coaches who desire to train like an Olympian. The cost of the camp is $595, but USA Taekwondo school owners will receive a discounted price of $495 Due to limited space available, medalists from the 2005 Junior Olympics in the 14-17 Elite and World Class divisions will have first opportunity to register. The due date for first priority registration is May 5, 2006. After May 5, if space is available, camp registrations are accepted on a first-come, first serve basis, until the camp is full. The final deadline for camp registrations is May 22, 2006. Ten spaces will be reserved for USAT Coaching Identification & Development Program presenters, who will be selected from submitted applications and trained at the camp. All camp-goers will reside at the Olympic Training Center and must be at least 14 years old. Camp Schedule Monday, June 5 Athlete Arrival 5pm Athlete Meeting 6pm-8:30pm Training June 6-8 8am Breakfast 9am-11:30am Training 12pm-1pm Lunch 2pm-4:30pm Training 5:30pm-6:30pm Dinner 7:30pm-9:30pm Evening Activity June 9 8am Breakfast 9am-12pm Evaluations 12pm Athletes Depart To register for the Athlete Development Camp, June 5-9, please go to: http://www.hltc.com Level I – Introducing Sport Taekwondo Seminar Schedule Friday, June 9 8am-12pm Seminar Instruction 12pm-1pm Lunch 1pm-5pm Seminar Instruction Saturday, June 10 8am-2pm Seminar Instruction 2pm Seminar Conclusion To register for the Level I – Introducing Sport Taekwondo Seminar, please go to: http://www.usa- taekwondo.us --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Cane techniques Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Very good points made about cane techniques when you really need to rely on a cane for walking. GM Ji has said that he came up with the Sung Moo Kwan and Sin Moo Hapkido cane techniques when he had a knee injury and needed to use a cane for two months. Many of the fancier cane techniques one sees could never be effectively done by someone actually needing a cane to stand or walk. As a youngster playing basketball (poorly, I might add) I frequently sprained an ankle. The Dr. would usually tell me to stay on crutches for two weeks, zero weight on the foot. Of course I, being a teenager and knowing more than the Dr., was out limping around the basketball court later that same day. Result? I can now badly sprain an ankle just walking across the dojang floor. So, I get the chance to use a walking stick for several days every so often. My personal favorite is a Blackthorn walking stick that Cold Steel or Special Projects used to offer. I believe that some also call this a Shillelagh. Or Cudgel. An excellent attention getter, aka noggin-knocker. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 19:30:06 -0400 From: Robert Hartley To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] stock canes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray, I grew up on a farm, and I have a couple of the canes you mention. When you consider that they are used to gently (and not so gently) direct some pretty large, "ornery" critters, you get an idea of how rugged they are. Bob At 04:52 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: >Message: 14 >From: Ray >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Cane Masters >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:38:54 -0700 (PDT) >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Save your $$ and buy a standard stock cane from most any feed and grain >store. They are like $10. Not nearly as pretty, but about as hefty as the >Canemaster canes. > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:50:37 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] the cane Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I would advise everyone not to buy a cane that is specifically marketed for self-defense or martial arts. By definition if you buy a cane that is marketed as a "weapon" you could be facing potential liabilities and illegalities should you ever have the need to use the cane for self-defense. I buy my canes at feed stores. They are sold as cattle canes used to move cattle through pens. (Yeah, I'm from Texas.) You can cut the length of the shaft to meet you size requirements, the hook is a good size and the end of the hook has a nice pointed surface. Another place to look is a pharmacy or drug store. "You know your Honor...I was using this cane because I have bad knees and well this punk just walked into the wrong end of it..." Just my opinion, Don Kirsch --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Cane techniques Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:18:28 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The seven basic cane strikes of Sin Moo are very good for this stuff...Doju Nim Ji always says...start with your hand on the top of the cane just like when you are walking... and be able to stike from there....they are very good strikes...all Sin Moo cane techniques are done from a basic walking stance with your weight on the cane just like when you are walking with it... Michael Tomlinson >From: Ray >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) >Subject: [The_Dojang] Cane techniques >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:00:27 -0700 (PDT) > >Very good points made about cane techniques when you really need to rely >on a cane for walking. > >GM Ji has said that he came up with the Sung Moo Kwan and Sin Moo Hapkido >cane techniques when he had a knee injury and needed to use a cane for >two months. Many of the fancier cane techniques one sees could never be >effectively done by someone actually needing a cane to stand or walk. > >As a youngster playing basketball (poorly, I might add) I frequently >sprained an ankle. The Dr. would usually tell me to stay on crutches >for two weeks, zero weight on the foot. Of course I, being a teenager and >knowing more than the Dr., was out limping around the basketball court >later that same day. Result? I can now badly sprain an ankle just walking >across the dojang floor. > >So, I get the chance to use a walking stick for several days every so >often. >My personal favorite is a Blackthorn walking stick that Cold Steel or >Special >Projects used to offer. I believe that some also call this a Shillelagh. >Or Cudgel. An excellent attention getter, aka noggin-knocker. > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "tim walker" To: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:47:45 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Cane Masters Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net If you've got that kind of money laying around... http://www.real-self-defense.com/umbrella1.html Tim "Fir Na Tine, Fir Na Au Saol" --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Cane techniques To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > The seven basic cane strikes of Sin Moo are very good for this stuff...Doju > Nim Ji always says...start with your hand on the top of the cane just like > when you are walking... and be able to stike from there....they are very > good strikes...all Sin Moo cane techniques are done from a basic walking > stance with your weight on the cane just like when you are walking with > it... Over and over and over again... "Hit the end of my cane!", he would say, as we practiced the cane twirl. Finally got to where I could do it very consistently. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest