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Special Lecture Series (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 03:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Resistance stretching To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My question is, to improve flexibility, I read somewhere that one should do exercises like TKD's stretch kicks and not static stretches. If this is so, I am wondering if a person can perform something like a high side kick slowly and with control. I hope that makes sense. Like if you're used to swinging the leg high will you be able to kick high with control? Jye Howard Spivey wrote: Hi Steve, This sure looks like isometric or PNF stretching, which you probably know has been around for a long time. Notice how the guy doing the hamstring stretch on the website is holding his leg immobile with his foot up over his head, while he exerts downward force with his foot against his hands - that's the essence of isometric stretching. The method definitely works, provided you approach it with sensible caution, as you would any intensive strength exercise. imo Tom Kurz's book, "Stretching Scientifically", is still the best source available on the whole subject, and it's very reasonably priced. Kurz goes into all of the physiological details of what's going on when you do isometric and PNF stretching, gives plenty of examples of specific stretches and explains how to work this type of stretching into your general workouts. Regards, Howard --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Don Ross" To: "dojang_digest" Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:10:43 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] VA law and prosecutors Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The various comments re prosecutors are right on. Most prosecutors are elected lawyers, a lot of them using the Prosecutors' office as a stepping-stone to higher elective office - in a word, they are political creatures. Therefore, they are more concerned about favorable headlines than 'justice.' The won/lost record is important: plea bargains help them A. 'win' weak/non-existent/shoddy cases without having to do any work and B. mollify their consciences, 'well at least I got that criminal off the streets for a little while.' Self-defense cases, and especially those involving firearms present free political advertising for prosecutors. As other contributors have stated, protecting yourself on the street is only part of the equation. The 'truth' will not necessarily set you free: headlines, political aspirations, public perceptions, and money have more impact on yur future domicile after successful self-defense on the street than the 'law.' Remember OJ's $6 million defense? In our judicial system, you are innocent until broke. FWIW, consider a $1-3 million liability umbrella rider added to your homeowner's insurance policy. This is CHEAP protection for the civil suit certain to follow your exoneration [hopefully] by the criminal courts. pil seung, Don Ross Beginning is easy. Continuing is hard. - Japanese proverb --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Any thoughts on this phrase? Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:16:29 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The one strike, one kill, philosophy originated with Okinawan Karate. Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From:  Mike Donahoo Reply-To:  the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To:  the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject:  [The_Dojang] Any thoughts on this phrase? Date:  Wed, 17 May 2006 17:22:02 -0700 (PDT) >I am looking for the meaning, philosophy, thinking,and >origin behind the Korean phrase "Il Sok Pil Sai" or >"One Strike Must Kill."  Any thoughts or insight on >this would be greatly appreciated. > >Mike Donahoo > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Racial Purity in North/South Korea Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:23:03 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Holy Nazi deja-vu, Batman!  Racial purity? Where do they get that hogwash? I guess they forgot all about their interactions with the Mongols, Chinese and Japanese. Not to mention the melting pot prior to the emergence of the three kingdoms. Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From:  Ray Reply-To:  the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To:  the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Subject:  [The_Dojang] Racial Purity in North/South Korea Date:  Wed, 17 May 2006 21:52:37 -0700 (PDT) >Fowarding... > > >FYI, on the subject of racial purity... from Digital Chosun 17 May 2006: > >Two Koreas' Top Brass Resort to Racist Mudslinging > >The second day of talks between North and South Korean generals on >Wednesday got off on the wrong foot when delegates stooped to >mudslinging over the racial purity of Korea. The debate erupted in small >talk between the two delegation leaders ahead of discussions that failed >to agree on the re-alignment of the maritime border. > >The North's delegation leader Maj. Gen. Kim Yong-chul started off an >unfortunate thread by quipping, "Since the climate in the South is >warmer, the farmers must be hard at work." His South Korean counterpart >Maj. Gen. Han Min-gu of the South replied, "The population of the >farming communities is actually falling, and many bachelors from such >areas marry women from Mongolia, Vietnam and the Philippines." > >Kim reportedly grimaced and snapped, "Our nation has always considered >its pure lineage to be of great importance -- I am concerned that our >singularity will disappear." Instead of contradicting him, the South >Korean delegation said such dilution of the bloodline was "but a drop of >ink in the Han River," adding this would cause no problems "if we all >live together." But this failed to mollify the North Korean. "Since time >immemorial, our nation has been a land of abundant beauty. Not even one >drop of ink must be allowed to fall into the Han River," Kim thundered. > >"Our history shows that we were able to maintain the purity of the >Korean race even while living together with the Jurchen and the >Manchurians of the region," Han countered. "That may be true," Kim >pressed on, "but from Old Chosun" -- the earliest Korean kingdom that >ended in 108 BC and spanned from western Manchuria through the >northwestern regions of the Korean Peninsula and according to legend >started in 2333 BC ? "through the Middle Ages and the modern era, it is >undeniable that we existed as one unified race." > >url: >http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200605/200605170016.html >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] VA law and prosecutors Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:26:53 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Of course, a lot of this depends on the attitudes of the voting population in any given area. In most jurisdictions in Texas, a DA who tried to prosecute someone for self-defense would probably be tarred and feathered before being run out of town on a rail. Joe -------------------------------------------------------------------- From:  "Don Ross" Reply-To:  the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To:  "dojang_digest" Subject:  [The_Dojang] VA law and prosecutors Date:  Thu, 18 May 2006 09:10:43 -0400 >The various comments re prosecutors are right on. Most prosecutors are elected >lawyers, a lot of them using the Prosecutors' office as a stepping-stone to >higher elective office - in a word, they are political creatures. Therefore, >they are more concerned about favorable headlines than 'justice.' The won/lost >record is important: plea bargains help them A. 'win' weak/non-existent/shoddy >cases without having to do any work and B. mollify their consciences, 'well at >least I got that criminal off the streets for a little while.' >     Self-defense cases, and especially those involving firearms present free >political advertising for prosecutors. As other contributors have stated, >protecting yourself on the street is only part of the equation. The 'truth' >will not necessarily set you free: headlines, political aspirations, public >perceptions, and money have more impact on yur future domicile after >successful self-defense on the street than the 'law.' Remember OJ's $6 million >defense? In our judicial system, you are innocent until broke. >     FWIW, consider a $1-3 million liability umbrella rider added to your >homeowner's insurance policy. This is CHEAP protection for the civil suit >certain to follow your exoneration [hopefully] by the criminal courts. > > >     pil seung, >Don Ross >Beginning is easy. Continuing is hard. >      - Japanese proverb >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:48:57 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] VA law and prosecutors Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Don Ross writes: Aint it da truth! Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:32 -0700 (PDT) From: steven riggs Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Resistance stretching To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Why would you want to do a high side kick slowly and with control? The whole point of a side kick is to do it with speed, power and yes control. I agree with Howard that Kurz has probably the best material on the subject of stretching and proper strength building as it relates to flexibility. He makes it so clear that we are so often not flexible because the muscles are weak not inflexible. They are inflexible because they are not strong enough. I have one of his books and two tapes and will buy more as they are excellent. If you read carefully though and hear him talk on a tape you will find that not only is he one of the best but he knows it too just ask him. Steven Jye nigma wrote: My question is, to improve flexibility, I read somewhere that one should do exercises like TKD's stretch kicks and not static stretches. If this is so, I am wondering if a person can perform something like a high side kick slowly and with control. I hope that makes sense. Like if you're used to swinging the leg high will you be able to kick high with control? Jye Howard Spivey wrote: Hi Steve, This sure looks like isometric or PNF stretching, which you probably know has been around for a long time. Notice how the guy doing the hamstring stretch on the website is holding his leg immobile with his foot up over his head, while he exerts downward force with his foot against his hands - that's the essence of isometric stretching. The method definitely works, provided you approach it with sensible caution, as you would any intensive strength exercise. imo Tom Kurz's book, "Stretching Scientifically", is still the best source available on the whole subject, and it's very reasonably priced. Kurz goes into all of the physiological details of what's going on when you do isometric and PNF stretching, gives plenty of examples of specific stretches and explains how to work this type of stretching into your general workouts. Regards, Howard --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Resistance stretching To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I perform many kicks and things at normal speed for training to fight, but I also like to perform them very slowly using the ultimate mind and body control. By doing things slowly, one can correct any alignment errors, and get the body used to doing things correctly, and then believe it or not when it's time to do them at normal (or above average speed) it is unbelieveable....that's why tai chi chuan fighters are so quick. Jye steven riggs wrote: Why would you want to do a high side kick slowly and with control? The whole point of a side kick is to do it with speed, power and yes control. I agree with Howard that Kurz has probably the best material on the subject of stretching and proper strength building as it relates to flexibility. He makes it so clear that we are so often not flexible because the muscles are weak not inflexible. They are inflexible because they are not strong enough. I have one of his books and two tapes and will buy more as they are excellent. If you read carefully though and hear him talk on a tape you will find that not only is he one of the best but he knows it too just ask him. Steven Jye nigma wrote: My question is, to improve flexibility, I read somewhere that one should do exercises like TKD's stretch kicks and not static stretches. If this is so, I am wondering if a person can perform something like a high side kick slowly and with control. I hope that makes sense. Like if you're used to swinging the leg high will you be able to kick high with control? Jye Howard Spivey wrote: Hi Steve, This sure looks like isometric or PNF stretching, which you probably know has been around for a long time. Notice how the guy doing the hamstring stretch on the website is holding his leg immobile with his foot up over his head, while he exerts downward force with his foot against his hands - that's the essence of isometric stretching. The method definitely works, provided you approach it with sensible caution, as you would any intensive strength exercise. imo Tom Kurz's book, "Stretching Scientifically", is still the best source available on the whole subject, and it's very reasonably priced. Kurz goes into all of the physiological details of what's going on when you do isometric and PNF stretching, gives plenty of examples of specific stretches and explains how to work this type of stretching into your general workouts. Regards, Howard --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1˘/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Duque Institute of Martial Arts" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:01:20 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Balance Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've been reading the_dojang for awhile and find it very interesting. Thanks for enlightening me on so many topics. I'm wondering if one of you could explain more about the lead leg balance, balance triangle for Hapkido, etc. that I found so interesting. I'd really appreciate the lesson! Sincerely, Kat Duque Institute of Martial Arts, Inc. website: www.ottawadima.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ See if you've won, play MSN Search and Win --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:55:11 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Mike Donahoo meaning...... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Sir, The org I belong to says that this is one of the meanings for the fist in the Tang Soo Do emblem. It is said to mean" one technique victory". There are some arts that do not beleive that ALL techniques could result in victory, but in TSD, all blocks and strikes could/should result in the victory of the practictioner. This is an affirmation of the power involved when one uses proper technique, ie:All the power always comes from the waist, all the time. One could argue this, but I absolutely refuse to argue with teachings of GM Hwang Kee with regard to this art, and as time progresses, the truth of his teachings becomes more apparent. Hope this helps some, please let me know if I can be of further service to you in this matter. Respectfully, George Tang Soo! --__--__-- Message: 11 From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:35:06 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: do wristlocks work Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Chiming in on the do wrist locks work subject. Yes I have made them work usually with a strike or kick as an attitude adjustment -------------------------------------------------------- ditto on that. reminds me of all the folks who say, but yah, what if i do this? i then laugh evilly and show them. muahahaha! oh, i love it when that happens ;) take care, mel Chajonshim Martial Arts Academy _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.673.2769 Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:54:08 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Iran wins world university taekwondo gold Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Iran wins world university taekwondo gold LONDON, May 19 (IranMania) - Behzad Khodadad from Iran took the coveted gold at the 9th World University Taekwondo Championship in Valencia, east of Spain, IRNA reported on May 19, 2006. The glittering gold came as Khodadad overcame his rivals from Benin, Thailand, Korea, and China in the +54 kg competitions. He took the first step firmly, whitewashing Benin's representative 5-0. The Iranian, in his second clash, edged past his Thai opponent 3-1 and disposed of Korea's player 5-1. Khodadad celebrated the title with a victory over the Chinese finalist Shu Chun-yang. Iran also took a bronze medal as Hamed Khamseh finished third in the +78 kg class. Khamseh thrashed a Russian player 7-1 in their opening match and defeated his Dutch rival in the second round. He bagged bronze as he conceded a loss to the Italian semifinalist. Fifty-six countries have pitted 411 taekwondo players at the prestigious university event, which runs through May 20. Iran finished runner-up in the previous edition that was held in Greece in 2004. --__--__-- Message: 13 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Special Lecture Series Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... Korean Studies Special Lecture Series 2006 Prof. Laurel Kendall (AMNH & Columbia University) You are all invited to come out and hear Laurel Kendall, a scholar of Korean shamanism at the American Museum of Natural History and Columbia University. This lecture focuses on how the capitalism and modernization has affected Korean Shamans. Laurel Kendall is one of the most recognized anthropologists in Korean shamanism. She is the author of , , and . The lectures will be given in English and the abstracts in English and Korean. Academics and professionals who are interested are welcome. Date and Time May 22(Mon) 16: 30 ~ 18:00 Korean Shamans and the Spirits of Capitalism May 29(Mon) 16: 30 ~ 18:00 Of Hungry Ghosts and Other Matters of Consumption in the Republic of Korea June 2(Fri) 16: 30 ~ 18:00 Mobile Gods and Changing Seoul Landscapes: The Anthropology of Landscape and the Study of Korean Shamans June 9 (Fri) 16: 30 ~ 18:00 Shamans, Mediums and the Power of Objects: Comparisons between Korea and Vietnam Location Room #105, Unjung-gwan Building The Center for Information on Korean Culture The Academy of Korean Studies For research abstracts and details, please download the attached file at http://www.aks.ac.kr/eng_home/main/main.asp For more information, please contact Ms. Lee Soohyun International Support Division, The Center for Information on Korean Culture. Tel : +82-31-709-8111(Ext. 821), +82-31-709-9843 E-mail : culture@aks.ac.kr --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest