Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 02:58:49 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #228 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wrist Locks on Big Guys (WTSDA Bruce) 2. do wrist locks work (Don Kirsch) 3. Knife attacks and defense (SlaneSavage) 4. Iran shining in world taekwondo firmament (The_Dojang) 5. WTF Wishes Safe Return of Kidnapped Taekwondo Team (The_Dojang) 6. Re: Knife attacks and defense (jakskru) 7. from Kiplinger Magazine (The_Dojang) 8. Patch thanks (Ray) 9. Re: Knife attacks and defense (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "WTSDA Bruce" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Wrist Locks on Big Guys Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 06:03:37 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Changing the thought process of an opponent, whether it be on the mat or on the street is extremely important. An opponent or an criminal has his/her mind focused on a physical action. If you can change that focus for a spit second, this can give you the opportunity to make your technique work. A comical link to an example, enjoy. http://video.fosfor.se/the-karate-bear/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timmy Sr. Kearney" To: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [The_Dojang] Wrist Locks on Big Guys > When I posted earlier,I had mentioned about sliding from 1 technique to > another ,This is on the mat,and NOT on the street.Of course when dealing > with a much larger ,and stronger opponent,you do need distractions,and use > what ever works.God gave us two good legs,we can always use them to run. > > > Master Tim Kearney > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 06:56:28 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] do wrist locks work Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jason wrote: Of course wrist locks work. The trick is getting them to grab your wrist! :) Jason I think (hope you are joking)...we learn wrist locks from a wrist grab position in HapKiDo to teach the technique, the feeling of unbalancing your opponent and many other aspects of the various techniques. In the same vein I guess one could say if you are a TKD stylist.. I hope the attacker goes into a front stance, down blocks and attacks just like a one step sparring pattern so the TKD counter attack works! Regards, your friend Don Kirsch --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:09:31 +0100 (BST) From: SlaneSavage To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Knife attacks and defense Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Extract from UK newspaper Sat 20th May Stabbing is the most common method of killing. More than 240 murder victims were killed that way last year, 29% of those deliberately. In 2004, more than 20 teenagers died as a result of knife attacks in the UK. In a Mori survey 29% of young people in London schools admitted having carried a knife; one 16-year-old boy in five had attacked someone with a knife, intending to hurt them seriously. Sixty-five per cent of people who carry knives have the weapons used against them. and Dr Murday, a surgeon at Glasgow Royal Infirmary, operates on three victims a week. His hospital receives hundreds of victims a month. Glasgow is Britain's capital for knife crime, with 55% of murders attributable to knife wounds. Dr Murday said anyone carrying a knife was a potential murderer. "If someone sets out carrying a knife and attacks someone with it, unless they are an anatomist, it is a completely random chance whether or not they will kill their victim," he said. "If they pierce the skin with a knife, the result could be either a minor cut or a fatal wound, depending on whether the blade hits a vital organ or artery. If you have a knife in your hand, it's as easy to kill someone as it is to give them a scratch." He added: "There's a lot of ignorance about what a knife can do. People carry them for bravado, or because they wrongly believe it offers them protection. "In reality, if you use a knife in a fight you have a substantial chance of killing somebody. Just carrying the knife makes you a potential murderer." Question - other than staying alert and well clear of situations where you may be vunerable to a knife attack, what advice can members give on effective knife self defense. Best Regards Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:26:04 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Iran shining in world taekwondo firmament Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Iran shining in world taekwondo firmament Saturday, May 20, 2006 LONDON, May 20 (IranMania) - Iran is starring at the 9th World University Taekwondo Championship in the Spanish port city of Valencia, bagging two more medals, according to an IRNA report. Alireza Nasr-Azadani handed the country the fourth weight gold and his teammate Hamid Sar-Abadani snatched the silver in the fifth weight category. Iran had already won one gold and one bronze. On his way to the final showdown, Nasr-Azadani edged past his Italian, Kazakh, and Turkish rivals 2-1, 4-0, and 5-2 respectively. He grabbed the glittering gold in the extra time of a hard-fought final against South Korea's representative. Sar-Abadani whitewashed a Colombian opponent 4-0 before his victories over players from Russia and the host country Spain, finishing runner-up after conceding a 8-5 loss to his powerful rival from South Korea. Iran eyes more medals as title hopefuls Mohammad Baqeri-Mo'tamed and Mehdi Bibak are to represent the country in the third and sixth weights respectively. On the opening day, Wednesday, Behzad Khodadad took the first gold for Iran. Khodadad overcame his rivals from Benin, Thailand, South Korea, and China in the +54 kg competitions. He took the first step firmly, thrashing Benin's representative 5-0. The Iranian, in his second clash, cleared his Thai opponent 3-1 and disposed of South Korea's player 5-1. Khodadad celebrated the title with a victory over the Chinese finalist Shu Chun-yang. Iran also took a bronze medal in the day when Hamed Khamseh ranked third in the +78 kg class. Khamseh demolished a Russian player 7-1 in their opening match and defeated his Dutch rival in the second round. He bagged bronze as he was beaten by the Italian semifinalist. Fifty-six countries have pitted 411 taekwondo players at the prestigious university event, which runs through May 20. Iran finished runner-up in the previous edition that was held in Greece in 2004. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:58:18 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF Wishes Safe Return of Kidnapped Taekwondo Team Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net WTF Wishes Prompt, Safe Return of Kidnapped Iraqi Taekwondo Team 19 May 2006 It has come to the attention of the World Taekwondo Federation that the Iraqi national taekwondo team has been kidnapped recently by unidentified armed men between Fallujah and Ramadi, west of Baghdad. On behalf of all the members of the global WTF family, WTF President Chungwon Choue expressed his deep concern and shock on the kidnapping of athletes, and called for a safe and swift return of the athletes to their families. A foreign news service reported on May 18 that 15 members of the Iraqi national taekwondo team were kidnapped on May 15 as they were going to the Jordanian city of Amman by coach to arrange a friendly tournament with neighboring countries. According to the news service, the kidnappers demanded a ransom of U.S.$100,000 in return for their freedom." The towns of Fallujah, 50km west of Baghdad, and Ramadi, 100km west of the capital, are focal points of Iraq's Sunni uprising. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "jakskru" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Knife attacks and defense Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 16:28:48 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net try checking out jim wagners website...i had it bookmarked but can't seem to find it...just try a search on the web for "jim wagner police and military knife survival" ----- Original Message ----- From: "SlaneSavage" To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Knife attacks and defense > > Question - other than staying alert and well clear of > situations where you may be vunerable to a knife > attack, what advice can members give on effective > knife self defense. > > Best Regards > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:10:56 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] from Kiplinger Magazine Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kiplinger Magazine Get Your Kicks Friday, May 19 Kimberly Lankford After spending several months watching her 6-year-old son, Stephen, learn kung fu, Evelyn Garvey of Lenoir, N.C., wanted to join the action. "I was attracted to the workout and beauty," she says. "When I get home, I'm drenched in sweat. My arms hurt--and it feels wonderful. I'm in my forties, and you feel as if you've done every kind of workout. It makes you feel young again to find something totally new." With martial arts' steep rise in popularity, you'd think it really was a fountain of youth. It's one of the fastest-growing sports in the U.S., with about 5.4 million Americans taking part in some form, up 6% from 1999, according to the National Sporting Goods Association. One of the reasons most often cited for the popularity of this sport, say instructors, is that martial arts can soothe our harried psyches. Says Rick Faye, who runs the Minnesota Kali Group, in Minneapolis, which specializes in kickboxing: "It can be great stress relief. One day, students will go just for the exercise. Another day, they're wailing on the pads. We had a woman kicking the pads and yelling, 'Give back the ring!'" Martial arts are not all the same. There are styles to appeal to all ages, sexes, sizes and strength levels. "You can continue to practice throughout your whole life," says Ron Viavattene, head instructor at the Judo Club, in Newton, Mass., who has been practicing judo for 40 years. In fact, there are so many choices, you may be intimidated. Here's what to expect from some of the more popular ones: Tae kwon do consists of kicks, blocks and punches that improve flexibility, and it's the best workout for your legs and buttocks. You'll practice kicking technique and footwork, then get sweaty when sparring. There's plenty of opportunity for competition, in which you earn points by kicking your opponent in the chest more often than you get kicked back. Judo is great for competition, strength and self-defense. It focuses on throwing your opponent off balance and then tossing him or her to the ground, as well as on grappling. Although people of all sizes can participate, it can be frustrating at first if you're smaller than everyone else. Aikido involves a lot of throwing, falling and rolling, too. But instead of relying primarily on strength, you execute complex, spherical moves that use the energy of your opponent's attack to bring him down. "You get out of the way and unbalance the person," says Judy Brady, a third-degree black belt from Orlando who is not quite 5 feet tall. "If you do it right, you do not have to exert so much energy." Kickboxing can be best for a fast-paced, full-body workout. Thai boxing, one of the most popular styles, permits kicking, punching, kneeing and elbowing, but the moves are watered down a bit from the deadly version practiced in Thailand. Real kickboxing is much more concerned with techniques and fighting strategies than "cardio kickboxing" aerobics classes, which choreograph kicks and punches to music. Kung fu, made popular by martial-arts icon Bruce Lee, has a bit of everything--punches, kicks, blocks, take-downs, grappling and even the use of weapons (knife, staff, spear). With so many different skills to learn, it can take longer to earn a black belt in kung fu than in any other martial art. This ancient Chinese martial art is itself divided into many variations. Hapkido combines the best of many martial arts, using kicks, strikes, joint locks, throws, weapons and, like aikido, energy-redirecting concepts. It's great for self-defense. Tai chi features slow, graceful movements that flow through a set order (called forms). It helps improve your flexibility, coordination, balance and relaxation, and it's especially popular among older people. It can be helpful if you are coming off an injury, have arthritis or want to improve your mental focus. But it's probably not suited to you if you want a fast-paced, competitive workout. Karate, which means "empty hand" (no weapons), focuses on fast and hard punches, strikes, blocks and kicks. Like kung fu, it comes in many different styles. OFF YOU GO Picking a style is easy compared with picking a school. In addition to looking through the Yellow Pages under "Martial Arts," you can check Black Belt magazine's dojo directory (www.blackbeltmag.com). Some schools require you to sign a contract for a year or more. Try to avoid this--you could get stuck paying even if you lose interest or get injured. Instead, look for schools that charge $40 to $90 a month no matter how many classes you take. Also beware of extra costs. Most clubs charge $50 or less for the uniform, but some jack up the price. "I've seen some selling uniforms for as high as $500," says Charlie Robinson, a seventh-degree black belt in judo who teaches at the Twin Cities Judo Club, in Yuba City, Cal. Exam fees add up, too. Some schools expect you to take a belt test every month--inflating the number of belts needed before becoming a black belt--and charge $30 or more for each test. Most clubs will charge you a fee, but some have fewer belt levels than others and pressure you less to take the exams. SELECT A SENSEI Ask about the instructors' qualifications. "Some people get a black belt and open up a school, but they don't know anything about teaching," says Clinet Furr, head instructor at Blue Ridge Kung Fu, in Lenoir, N.C. Most styles of martial arts have no formal teacher training. Students work their way up through the ranks and usually start to assist with instruction once they reach the black-belt level, which often requires a certain amount of teaching experience before advancing to the next degree. Find out how long an instructor, or sensei, has been teaching the style you wish to learn. Then watch a class and talk with some students to see whether you are comfortable with his or her teaching method and the personality of the school. The U.S. Judo Association has a coaches' certification program. Go to www.csprings.com/usja/coachList.htm to verify whether an instructor you're considering is certified. Don't expect to start at an advanced level. It usually takes at least four or five years to become a black belt in most versions of the martial arts. Judo novices spend a lot of time learning how to fall without hurting their bodies. In tae kwon do, you can spend months learning kicks, punches and blocks before you spar with anyone. At Minnesota Kali Group, everyone begins with the Phase 1 course, which introduces kickboxing fundamentals. "We don't do sparring in the beginning of Thai boxing," says Rick Faye. "We're hitting the pads and jumping rope. The instructor is teaching the mechanics--knees and elbows in sequence and shadow boxing. Then you hit the focus mitt and Thai pad." People proceed at their own pace in his class--a flexibility you may want to seek when picking a school. "I get people who came off the couch and haven't done anything," he says. "Others are triathletes." Finding a school where you'll be comfortable is key. Blue Ridge Kung Fu is family-oriented (even hosting movie nights for kids) and has plenty of adults in their thirties, forties and older. Another kung-fu club in a nearby college town is filled with young men and is much more competitive. Minnesota Kali Group has co-ed and women's-only kickboxing classes, but no classes for kids. Others mix adults with kids. All of the Asian martial arts have strong traditions, and many go back centuries. At most clubs, you'll bow when coming on and off the mat. Some schools foster a formal atmosphere, where students practice in silence, do kneeling bows throughout the workout, and hold the head instructor in cultlike reverence. Others are much more informal. What is the program's focus? Some martial-arts schools are "belt mills" that promise if you pay a certain amount of money, you'll get your black belt in a mere two years. Belt exams can be a great goal-setting motivator and a way to measure your progress, but you may not be in a hurry to hustle through the ranks. Some schools stress competition more than others. The excitement of competing attracts many people to judo and tae kwon do, and some clubs focus on it more than others. For example, there are judo competitions every month for interested students in Boston. --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Patch thanks Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a quick note of thanks to list member Michael A. Atamian for mailing in a rare Choson Do Society patch. It is a very welcome addition to the collection of patches many of you have already snailmailed in. It should be appearing shortly on our website at http://martialartsresource.com/korean/patch/patches.html. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Knife attacks and defense To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Question - other than staying alert and well clear of > situations where you may be vunerable to a knife > attack, what advice can members give on effective > knife self defense. Many people think that a knife fight is two people facing off in a dark alley, each with a knife in their hand. Therefore many like to learn knife-on-knife skills, and it really is fun stuff to work on, but it isn't too likely you'd ever use those skills in real life. What is more likely to be used is something like Reactive Knife Defense (RKD). This is VERY basic empty hand knife defense. A simple block the attack (should you actually see it) with the closest hand/arm and then try to control the attacker's weapon arm. Then Nike-do, run the other way... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest