Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:59:46 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #341 - 10 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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RE: style philosophies (J R Hilland) 2. Tae Kwando Poomse: (John Merwin) 3. Re: Parenting skills 1 on 1 (Steven Berkowitz) 4. RE: [RE][The_Dojang] RE: Root and Center... (michael tomlinson) 5. Rick Clark's Inquiry on forms (Johnnie Rouse) 6. RE: Rick Clark's Inquiry on forms (Rick Clark) 7. Re: Parenting skills 1 on 1 (Ray) 8. Re: Choson currency (Ray) 9. Will you be there? :) (The_Dojang) 10. But no rank in Hapkido ? (Hapkido) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:07:42 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: style philosophies Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mike, hapkido and taekwondo are two completely separate arts with different underlying principles and theories of motion without any common ground other than they are Korean arts. Perhaps this link will help. Re: http://www.hapkidoselfdefense.com/theories.htm. JRH www.rrhapkido.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51:17 -0700 (PDT) From: John Merwin To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Tae Kwando Poomse: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Tae Kwando Poomse: Taeguek and Palgue forms I see that when you go to a TKD tournaments the only form that gets the gold metals is the Taeguek there for, the more winners your school has the more you can use this to get more students, we only teach Palgue and Kicho all five most school only teach kicho one.. We still go but do not do well in color belt divisions, mostly 2nd and 3rd place, but in sparing we hold our own this year six gold and 2 silver. CIMA Training Center __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Steven Berkowitz" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Parenting skills 1 on 1 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:59:32 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net have her call me 360-551-1417 I'll have her out of her contract in 2 weeks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Galassi" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Parenting skills 1 on 1 > s. yates> [...] I apologize if the truth isn't so pleasant to > s. yates> people [...] etc... > > The technical points you make are probably incorrect in many ways, > since the world is much more subtle than how you paint it (even the > wise cannot see all ends). > > But that's not the point. > > The point is that you showed lack of respect by attacking someone's > parenting rather than engaging in an intellectual debate on the issues > raised by her anecdote. > > If the debate is properly carried out then your words might end up > being "the truth that hurts" (I doubt it), but you will still have > showed lack of respect by attacking someone's parenting abilities. > > Martial arts begin with respect and ends with respect. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [RE][The_Dojang] RE: Root and Center... Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:04:54 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Anj writes: You don't remain in one stance to fight in, the stance is the moment in your motion where a strike connects or a movement completes. If I choose a front fighting stance and remain in it throughout a sparring match, I'm going to get my head ripped off. I want to flow between a front stance, back stance, L stance, rooted stance, cat stance. I want to dance between stances and in order to have strength in those stances.>>> I totally agree and this is the same in Hapkido as it is in every other physical activity on this planet...a stance is just a moment in time that is a means to an end...granted it needs to be right...but not held very long at all... Michael Tomlinson --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Johnnie Rouse" To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:06:59 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Rick Clark's Inquiry on forms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The teaching and practice of forms(poomse-hyongs) are what ever name you would like to call then is in general a curriculum for getting experience using different defense and attack moves while gaining balance and perfecting the techniques involved. Upon perfecting each new form(s) usually a student demonstrate these new skills during testing. I personally don't see the big difference in which form is taught, as long as it works well at honing the skills of the practitioner. I also think that it is handy to know several different sets of forms because you never know when, where, are even whom you may work out with, and its always nice to have common forms to practice. I can't say that there is any one set of forms better than the other, The latest ones recognized by the KKW for testing is Taeguek 1-8. Does it really matter which forms you teach, only if you want to do right by your students and have them KKW certified. Johnnie --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:04:00 -0400 From: "Rick Clark" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Rick Clark's Inquiry on forms To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Jonnie, A few questions to help me understand your thoughts a bit better. >From: Johnnie Rouse [mailto:rmetals@cmaaccess.com] >The teaching and practice of forms(poomse-hyongs) are what >ever name you would like to call then is in general a >curriculum for getting experience using different defense and >attack moves while gaining balance and perfecting the >techniques involved. Do you see any relevance to the various moves in the forms when it comes to self-defense or sparring? Do you emulate the moves in the forms when you spar or in self defense? >Upon perfecting each new form(s) usually >a student demonstrate these new skills during testing. I >personally don't see the big difference in which form is >taught, as long as it works well at honing the skills of the >practitioner. What are the skills you are "honing"? > I also think that it is handy to know several >different sets of forms because you never know when, where, >are even whom you may work out with, and its always nice to >have common forms to practice. I can't say that there is any >one set of forms better than the other, The latest ones >recognized by the KKW for testing is Taeguek 1-8. Does it >really matter which forms you teach, only if you want to do >right by your students and have them KKW certified. Johnnie At the risk of starting a flame war why is it important for you to have KKW recognition. For example if someone moves there may not be a KKW school in the area but an ITF school, or perhaps ATA, or they may not have a TKD school near. Going into a school that is not KKW the KKW certificate does not mean any more to a non KKW school than any other certificate. Rick Clark --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Parenting skills 1 on 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > "to s. yates": > > If you have to say something negative about her for the sake of the > discussion, do it in an academic way instead of an insulting way. Worth a re-reading, by some... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Choson currency Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Of possible interest. Forwarding... -------------------------------------- Greetings, There was only very limited use of coins in Joseon until the late seventeenth century. There were mintages in 1423 and 1633 (both Joseon tongbo) but these coins were not popular and saw very little circulation. The primary media of exchange were rice and cloth. There were virtually no coins circulating in Joseon for the period in which you are interested. There were several attempts to introduce paper currency in the fifteenth century but these issues were largely rejected as well. I do not know much about the use of uncoined silver but it seems that silver was used primarily in the Ming and Qing trade or, less commonly, for larger transaction within Joseon. Pages 50-59 and chapters 23-26 of James Palais' <> are by far the best English language work on Joseon currency that I have seen. His footnotes are rich so be sure to take advantage of them! For an English numismatic catalogue, see Edgar Mandel's <>. In Korean, I would recommend anything by Won Yuhan. <> by Yi Seongnyun (seok-ryun), <> by Song Chansik, <> by Yu Jahu, <> published by the Bank of Korea (Hanguk Eunhaeng) are all worth looking into as well. <> by Gim Insik and <> by Han Yeongdal are standard Korean language numismatic references. You might also want to look into the <>. The section provides an interesting narrative on currency for the Goryeo and Joseon periods. I hope this was helpful. Joshua Van Lieu On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Jong-Won Kim wrote: > Greeting everyone, > > I am looking for information regarding the currency > system used in early Choson (up to and including the > Imjin War's aftermath). > > It is my understanding that copper coins (tongbo) were > used along with debt notes and silver bars, but my > knowledge is lacking in this area. I would appreciate > any help. > > Was the use of currency limited? > What other coins & currency forms were used? What was > their name? > Was paper currency used? > What was their comparative value? > Where Ming coins accepted in Choson, or did merchants > have to convert them to local currency? > What was the exchange rate between Choson and Ming > coins? > > Thank you for your time, > Jong-Won Kim > Montevideo, Uruguay > > "To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield." > -Alfred Tennyson, "Ulysses" --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:28:47 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Will you be there? :) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Azerbaijan Open Taekwondo Championship to be Held in Baku on Aug. 19-20 BAKU, Azerbaijan -- About 100 taekwondoists from 12 countries will attend the Azerbaijan Open Taekwondo Championship in the Baku Sports Complex, August 19-20, 2006. The Russian and Ukrainian teams have already arrived in Azerbaijan and are training in the Quba Olympic Sports Complex in Quba province. National teams of Iran and Poland are coming to Azerbaijan tomorrow Aug. 14). Azeri senior coach Alakbar Imamaliyev will announce the national team squad on Aug. 15. One of the best taekwondoists of the Azerbaijani team, world and two-times European champion Niyamaddin Pashayev (68kg), is missing the competition because of injury. However, coach Alakbar Imamaliyev believes his other athletes Elnur Amanov (58kg), Rashad Ahmadov (80kg) and Tavakkul Bayramov (over 80kg) will be successful. --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:19:17 -0700 From: Hapkido To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] But no rank in Hapkido ? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net International Combat Hapkido Federation promotes Master Ivan Jadric to California's State Representative By Pamela Velasquez Tehachapi News Master Ivan Jadric of Tehachapi Martial Arts Center has just been promoted to California's state representative for the International Combat Hapkido Federation. Jadric started studying martial arts 43 years ago in Europe and South America. He now carries a 5th degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do and martial arts, a 1st degree in Kodokan Judo, as well as mastering in Tai Chi. He has been recognized for his dedication and success in the martial arts world. "Master Jadric gives so much to the martial arts world. He provides our community with a great place to learn morals, values, respect, and discipline," said Hapkido black belt Derek Diamas. "I have been training under him for nine years and he has not only been an inspiration and a teacher to me, he has become my family," Diamas said. Jadric also received a Platinum Achievement Award, presented by Dr. Jim Thomas, on April 29. Thomas, founder of the USA Martial Arts Hall of Fame Banquet, presented Jadric with this prestigious award for his outstanding 43 years of service. Jadric and his family moved to Tehachapi 15 years ago to open the Tehachapi Martial Arts Center, which has been a success ever since. He is well respected in the martial arts community and recognized for all his hard work and dedication. Jadric plans to represent and promote martial arts to its highest potential and help the International Combat Hapkido Federation continue its goal to preserve the techniques, philosophy and traditions of martial arts. Jadric and the International Combat Hapkido Federation also offer support and community among martial arts studios and practitioners from around the world. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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