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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Olympic Gold (The_Dojang) 2. Athlete Identification & Development Program (The_Dojang) 3. naive and uneducated (William.Baldwin@ureach.com) 4. Re: crazy guy (Beungood8@aol.com) 5. Re: RE: ATA (Jye nigma) 6. Re: Sigh, Smart Sparring (Jye nigma) 7. Teen takes down molester (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:20:10 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Olympic Gold Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Taekwondo Athletes Eye Olympic Gold HANOI, Vietnam --- Tran Hieu Ngan's silver medal in the 2000 Olympics in Sydney changed people's perceptions about the capabilities of Vietnamese athletes, including taekwondo contenders. Viet Nam's failure to defend its medal two years ago in Athens was a hard pill for sports managers to swallow. After leaving a valuable lesson the hard way, Viet Nam's taekwondo team is forming their technique for Beijing. Truong Ngoc De, general secretary of the Viet Nam Taekwondo Federation, invited an expert from South Korea to train national members. The expert triumphed in the world tournaments in U-54kg and U-58kg categories back before he became a coach. In a visit to South Korea last month, De worked with officials of the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) who offered their help. "We plan to focus on strong points like light weight categories for men and women's classes rather than make small improvements across the board," De said. "It is good for us to co-ordinate with other countries like France and Iran to set up a 'union group' to make us a strong force." The federation is also carrying out their first task of establishing their own centre in which they will organise training and managing activities. In the centre, three to four top pugilists from each category will be chosen to train there. In each category, the coaching board will assign one coach to take care of the martial artists. Incidentally, the presence of a South Korean expert will only help the team in their struggle for another Olympic medal. The 22-storey centre, which will cost US$30 million, is scheduled for construction in September in HCM City. It will have the same model and function as Kukkiwon, the world largest taewkondo training centre in South Korea. Estimates have the centre up and running in 18 months. In spite of disappointing Olympic results, Vietnamese taekwondo athletes have earned solid reputations in international championships with three gold medals at the World Juniors Taekwondo Championship in Viet Nam late last month. Hoang Ha Giang won the first world gold medal ever for Viet Nam in the girl's U-46kg category while teammate Tran Thi Ngoc Truc doubled their success with a second gold minutes later in the women's U-49kg class. The last gold went to Bui Bich Ngoc in the U-57kg. "I am very surprised with the wonderful performance of the young artists with three golds in their first big tournament," said De after the tournament, adding that he only expected one gold. The three will be called for the national team where they will receive special support to prepare for the Beijing 2008 Olympics. The WTF has invited Vietnamese athletes to participate the World Taekwondo Performance Championship which will be held in Seoul on September 2-14. (Story from the Vietnam News on Aug. 23, 2006) --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:27:48 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Athlete Identification & Development Program Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: USAT Administration Subject: Athlete Identification & Development Program to be held Sept. 16 in Lockport, N.Y. The First Athlete Identification and Development Program is sheduled for Saturday, September 16, in Lockport, N.Y. Start time is 10:00 a.m. and the cost is $50. The program will be led by Herb Perez and Patrice Remarck and is open to USA Taekwondo members and non-members The address for the program is 30 Pine Street, Lockport NY 14094. For more information, contact Herb Perez at gold92@aol.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:42:46 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: William.Baldwin@ureach.com, MD-S Subject: [The_Dojang] naive and uneducated Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net RE: Message: 1 From: sidtkd@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:17:12 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: I'm uneducated Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Tom and others: >I'm afraid I'm terribly dumb. I just can't remember anyone >from a >professional board being indicted arrested etc.\ >Please teach me??? >Sid Google, Yahoo, alltheweb.com; seek and ye shall find... -- __--__-- Message: 2 From: SAMMYSADAN@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:35:13 EDT To: THE_DOJANG@MARTIALARTSRESOURCE.NET Subject: [The_Dojang] confused Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Tom Gordon etc. > I don't want to start a controversy here, but I've read >all comments on >the Board issue. Mr. Sid never said anything about members >of a board not >being corrupted. That was me. I clipped the quote directly from the post. He not only felt they couldn't be corrupted, he thought the very idea they could be (if appointed by the governor, and not elected) to be naive. >I think some of >you are trying to put this guy through the wringer by >misquoting him and I doubt I misquoted, I generally cut and paste quotes to minimize such a thing. As for negative comments, stating someone is naive for disagreeing with you should be minimized. We all have opinions, sooner or later we find parts where we differ. (based on differing experiences and perspectives.) Life would be boring if we were *all* Amish/mormons/or jews... >generally negative comments. I've run a dojang now for 23 >years and sometimes with >just enough money to pay rent and food. I'm not looking for >another expense, >but I'd rather close down than allow the situation as is to >hurt kids, rip >off adults and make unsafe conditions. There's nothing Mr. >(or master?( Sid >has said that we shouldn't support. Nor do I necessarily oppose what he says. I pointed out that his statement made it appear that he felt anyone failing to see the brillance of his plan was naive, when in fact thinking the mere fact of proposing appointed vs elected officials would preclude corruption was naive. We have elected judges in Louisiana, i wish, i advocate, and dream of them being, appointed, for the very reasons the author posted. I doubt it would eliminate the possibility of corruption, however, and would hope authorites would remain vigilant inspite of it. --- "C'est Levee" WILLIAM BALDWIN,BS,MD-S MBA HCM program Ground below Zero New Orleans, La (central time zone) www.coastguardauxiliaryfc61.org --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:45:08 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: crazy guy Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 8/27/2006 7:11:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: Wasn't it that crazy Taekwondo/Hapkido guy in Nashville that claims he was a 3rd Dan by the time he was 8 years old... Yep, a big crock'o-cr*p. Ray Terry _rterry@idiom.com_ (mailto:rterry@idiom.com) Yeah crazy guy claimed to be a special forces guy and ranger at 18. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: ATA To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net no disrespect, but, I believe that, because I saw the current grandmaster doing some stuff on video and it was amongst THE worse stuff I've ever seen! Jye "C. Bonner" wrote: This story sounds very familiar! I have student's that have come over from ATA school's, and they all have similar story's. And even after paying the extra money to learn more tech's. etc. They are not taught them properly. They don't seem to work on basic's, just push them fast to test, and get that money. I have a friend that runs a large ATA school, and even he dosn't agree with some of the ATA business policy's, but, he likes the money!! Even after paying for the B.B. club, you have to join the masters club to learn the B.B. stuff. There are also levels above the masters club, that you must pay for of course. He say's the ATA caters to people who wan't to pay the money, and say they are in TAE KWON-DO, but do not wan't to sweat, and work at it to much. And the majority of people seem to wan't that these day's. Clint --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sigh, Smart Sparring To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net sure. Focus on speed and reflexes, as well as footwork. I used to workout with a speed bag, but what I really felt got me my speed was playing with cats. doing stuff like rubbing their bellies (which they hate) and when they go to scratch at me, I'd have to move my hand out of the way. around the time I was a kid and had first started this, I got my hands torn up! they were so fast you'd hear your flesh rip before you even felt pain or saw blood. But like doing this even now, because cats are explosive with their speed, have pinpoint accuracy, and while emotionless for the time being they can explode from out of no where. But other then that, speed bags, and focusing on doing techniques/drills quickly. as far as footwork, I work on linear movements, angles and arcs. Jye Amcreva Drogovah wrote: Yes, I don't think anyone here says the basics are not the key here. If your training like me (3-5) times a week the basics are already being trained. I was just wondering if people had any moves or training ideas that may help, to be honest, a rather timid fighter. --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:05:51 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Teen takes down molester Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Teen takes down 'model-citizen' molester By Peter Y. Hong Los Angeles Times LOS ANGELES – The girl set the showdown with the man for the oak-shaded lawn in front of the South Pasadena public library, a lovely spot for an ugly encounter. She was a high school student with a painful secret that surfaced on her wrists, scarred where she had cut herself. He was William French Anderson, world-renowned scientist, the father of gene therapy and a martial-arts expert with law-enforcement connections from the FBI to the chief of his hometown police department in San Marino. He was 67; she was 17. "I just did it – just something inside me was something just evil," he said. "Why did you molest me?" she demanded. He said he didn't know. The girl challenged him. "Are you guilty enough to turn yourself in, huh?" No. That would damage "all the people who ironically look up to me as a model of the right way to live, people in Oklahoma (his native state)," he said. He said he was sorry, again and again. "I will love you forever," he told her. These words, captured by a police wire the girl wore during that 2004 encounter, were part of the evidence that helped convict Anderson on child molestation charges in July. In her first media interview, the girl described how, after years of denial, she got herself to take on – and eventually take down – one of the biggest stars in medicine. "I realized he could repeat what he did to me. He could do it to somebody else," the girl, now a college student, told a reporter last week in the office of her lawyer, Mary Fulginiti. She spoke on condition of anonymity. She said she told herself, "If you can't find the strength to do it for yourself, then do it for someone else." Anderson is in custody and could not be interviewed for this story. His lawyer, Barry Tarlow, said he would comply with the judge's order not to speak to the media about the case. During his trial, Anderson testified that he might have emotionally abused the girl by pushing her too hard to do well in school and sports, but he said the sexual abuse claims were a lie. He had cared deeply about her, he said. His defense lawyers argued that the girl's mother, Anderson's employee, wanted to usurp the scientist's position as chief of a gene therapy lab at the University of Southern California. Born in Tulsa, Okla., Anderson was an unpopular stutterer a year younger and inches shorter than his classmates, according to a 2003 biography by Bob Burke and Barry Epperson titled "W. French Anderson: Father of Gene Therapy." As Anderson recalled in the biography, he obnoxiously pointed out his superior intelligence to his peers. A few elders, including his grade-school principal and the head of a summer boys camp, helped him improve his speech and social skills. By high school, he was a top middle-distance runner and a star in debate and drama as well as academics. Anderson was admitted to Harvard, where he flourished. Only a pulled hamstring kept him from the 1960 Olympic trials as a runner, according to the biography. Academically, he did well enough to win a university scholarship for graduate study at Cambridge, where he met Kathryn Dorothy Duncan, a British undergraduate, in an anatomy class. They married on her graduation day and moved to Harvard for medical school. Photographs from the period show an attractive couple. Kathy looked like Grace Kelly playing a doctor; her charm offsetting Anderson's lingering traces of awkwardness. Kathy called him "socially underdeveloped," according to his biography. When they entertained at their home, "French played in the pool with the children while the adults chatted." The Andersons decided to devote their lives to medicine instead of having children. Kathy became a pediatric surgeon, while Anderson, in 1965, joined the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md. Genetic engineering was in its infancy, and the thought of using it to cure human diseases was seen more as science fiction than as science. Anderson worked feverishly on first establishing its credibility, then making genetic therapy a reality. Each half-day, he charted how he spent his time and gave himself a score: two points for research, one point for speeches and journal reading, zero points for administration or non-science. In the late 1980s, Anderson and his collaborators implanted a harmless bacterial gene into a human. In their 1995 book "Altered Fates: Gene Therapy and the Retooling of Human Life," journalists Jeff Lyon and Peter Gorner compared that achievement with jet airplanes breaking the sound barrier. In September 1990, Anderson and two colleagues implanted a healthy gene to correct 4-year-old Ashanti DeSilva's defective immune system. Lyon and Gorner called the procedure "arguably the most audacious medical experiment in history, the first U.S. government-sponsored attempt to reprogram the genetic code of a living human being." Whether the operation or later medical treatment saved DeSilva's life is now in dispute. The media then, however, hailed Anderson as the man who bested nature, the closest thing to playing God. Critics said he took too much credit for achievements in which other scientists shared. In 1992, Anderson announced that he was leaving the NIH, his scientific home for 27 years, and moving to Los Angeles for Kathy. Passed over for the chairmanship of the surgery department at Children's National Medical Center in Washington, his wife accepted the surgery chair at Childrens Hospital Los Angeles. She later settled a sex-discrimination lawsuit against her former employer. Anderson founded the Gene Therapy Laboratories at USC. A year later, he hired a cardiologist from China who, according to Anderson's biography, "was awed by French's humility and his mission." She was the girl's mother. "She told me he was a prominent person, a great person," the girl recalled. "My mom told me to be really polite to him." But gene therapy failed to meet the expectations that followed Anderson's early success, and his lab at USC had lost most of its funding by 2003 and was set to close, before he was accused of any crimes. Since his early days at NIH, Anderson's chief diversion from intense lab work was an equally intense interest in taekwondo and other martial arts. He became a black belt and served as the U.S. taekwondo team's physician. News photographs showed him breaking boards with his fists. He later taught martial arts to children. Without children of their own, the Andersons had long taken on what they called "surrogate children," guiding nine through college and, in some cases, medical school. In Los Angeles, the girl became Anderson's protégé. Like him, she had early speech problems, talking only to her more outgoing twin sister in their own language. The girl learned English in school but let her twin speak for her. She had few friends. Her mother believed that she would blossom under Anderson's guidance, and he agreed. Anderson began teaching the girl karate when she was 9 and drove her to soccer and softball practice. He also arranged speech therapy for her and told her mother he would prepare her to possibly attend Harvard. By all appearances, the girl was thriving in elementary and middle school. Asked in one school assignment to name five things that made her special, she said, "I know French Anderson personally." Beneath the surface, however, Anderson was more of a buddy than mentor, the girl said. "He told me I could slack off in middle school because nobody would look at those grades (for college admission)," she said. Anderson, who portrayed himself as never smoking or drinking, offered her alcohol and let her drive his car without a license, she testified during the molestation trial. Anderson at trial said it never happened. The girl was swinging playfully on a large hanging punching bag when he first touched her genital area, she testified. Later, he would ask her to undress for "medical exams," weighing her and touching her private parts, she said from the witness stand. The worst abuse happened in the summers, when Anderson would disrobe, have her undress to her underwear and lie on a towel on the bed, she testified. She told jurors she would read Garfield comics while he thrust against her until he was finished.. The abuse stopped in ninth grade, after she began resisting more strongly, she testified. But their close relationship continued. The girl lived with her family in South Pasadena, a short drive from Anderson's grand residence across from the Huntington library and gardens. The twins built a treehouse in Anderson's backyard and had their friends over for get-togethers. Anderson bought the girl her prom dress. During her sophomore year in high school, after the abuse had stopped, according to a police report, the girl took a friend to her basement and showed her a three-page letter describing the abuse. After the friend read it, the girl tore it up, the report said. She swore the friend to secrecy and said she would "lie through her teeth" if police found out, the report added. The girl later testified that she cared for Anderson and felt "he didn't understand the extent that he had hurt me. And, I mean, he was this well-respected man that so many people look up to." Teammates and coaches, however, witnessed her angry outbreaks during practices. A teacher sent the girl to the school counselor, according to court documents. At first, she refused to detail her problem. Finally, after several meetings, she told the counselor that she had been molested by her mother's boss but didn't want it reported, she testified. The counselor, as required by state law, told police. When the mother arrived home to find her daughter speaking to police, she phoned the family's most-trusted adviser: William French Anderson. By this time, the girl had cut off personal contact with Anderson. He had sent her e-mails begging to see her. She didn't have to talk to him or acknowledge him, he wrote, he could just watch her at a soccer game. She testified that she sent him e-mails asking him why he had abused her and insisting that he admit what he had done. Anderson, also testifying in court, said his e-mail replies addressed emotional issues, not sexual abuse. In one e-mail, he wrote he was considering suicide: "If I saw you and your whole family destroyed, and my whole career down the tubes, and all the thousands of people abandoned who would have been helped by cures your mother and I are developing, then I can understand what would drive a person to suicide ... For me, a powerful 9-mm bullet through the side of the head would be the way to go." Directed by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies, who were given the case because of Anderson's connections to the San Marino police force, the girl demanded the library meeting the Thursday before the Fourth of July weekend in 2004. Anderson testified that his taped words at the library were not sincere, that he was telling the girl what she wanted to hear so he could get away. Afterward, French and Kathryn Anderson signed a joint letter to the San Marino department, whose chief had sent his two children to the Anderson home for karate lessons. The 3 1/2 -page, single-spaced letter speculated that the girl might be preparing to extort them: "If she has also descended into street drug use, then she may need money. ... How do we protect ourselves from an extortion attempt? What should we do?" Four weeks later, Anderson was arrested and released on bail, then arrested six months later, after a Maryland man claimed Anderson had molested him 20 years earlier. Anderson was charged then with abusing the boy, but Maryland prosecutors eventually dropped the case. A Los Angeles Superior Court jury on July 19 found Anderson guilty of four counts of continuous sex abuse and lewd acts toward a child under 14. Anderson is undergoing psychological tests in prison in preparation for his Nov. 17 sentencing. Kathy Anderson no longer lives in the house she had shared with her husband of 45 years. It was sold in May. Anderson faces up to 22 years in prison, perhaps a life sentence. The girl says his abuse could pain her forever. But the injury has also strengthened her sense of purpose. She says she wants to tell other victims to fight back, even against powerful people whom they may have cared for. "A lot of things were shattered," she said. She had to accept that "a person I had trusted my whole life was not a good person." Others should know, she says, "you do not have to be a victim forever." --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest