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Re: Opening a New Dojang (Thomas Gordon) 12. 1st WTF World Cup Taekwondo Team Chamnpionships (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 23:20:11 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Okerstrom, My apologies for the slow reply. Sounds like you've found a gem. Our building is roughly 50x100. The tax assessor says it's just shy of 5300 square feet of usable/conditioned space. So somewhere we gained a few feet or their measurements are off. I uploaded a floor plan of our school to our website at: www.GordonMartialArts.com/temp The orange and purple areas are covered areas outside. The orange area is coming from the back door. Start at the bottom (being the front door) and let's work our way up. Where you see the number 14 is the double front door. You walk in and see the front desk which we are hiring a receptionist now so we can have a greeter. To your right is a long sitting bench overseeing the workout floor with glass separating the two areas. Students enter the front door, turn right and walk toward the ProShop. They turn to the left just before the ProShop and into a room that isn't labeled on the picture. That an area where people can take off their shoes, get their belts on, etc. Right next to that is labeled the Play Area. This is for the little guys whose parents are in class or have older siblings in class. I know, I know, this is killin the hardcore stylist out there that we have a play area. Keeps the little guys (1-3 year olds) occupied and it's one more service we provide. Okay, so you walk through a door onto the main floor where there is a walkway to the dressing & bathroom area. Two dressing room and two bathrooms for male and females. The break area is really just a sink and coke machine but we may eventually get a small table back there with a coffee pot and microwave (geesh, we basically live there Mon-Thurs). On the top left side of the layout is a back office and storage area. It's only there because it's concrete and I didn't have enough time to do anything else. We remodeled that from a church in just 7.5 days over Christmas break which I will NEVER do again. This Christmas break I'm hiding out at the house and turning the phones off! :) Okay, if I could do it again. I would: 1 - Widen the lobby area. We left because the wall was already there. If I did it over, I'd move that towards the workout floor about 7 feet and put a row of lower seats in front of the higher bench. 2 - I'd shorten the break room and take out the first dressing room. Divide the remaining dressing room into three smaller dressing rooms. These dressing rooms are intended to be like small locker rooms where more than one person can use them at a time. Instead, people lock the door and end up with a huge private dressing room. 3 - I'd take out the back office. 4 - Remove the stage area. (seen in at http://www.gordonmartialarts.com/picture/2006/picture010206-first-class- photo.html if that breaks, go to www.GordonMartialArts.com and click on photos then first class under the 2006 heading) Great idea at first but we really only use it during testings so I'd rather have the 150ish extra square feet and make the floor more usable. All of this would net us about 550ish more feet on the workout floor. Hope that helps. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Daryl Covington" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Yongsan Gu Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I live In Yongsan Gu, Ittaewon Ee Dong. There are several TKD schools around here, not sure about WTF, but - We'd love to have you come over to our HKD Class, for FREE. daryl drdarylrcovington@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:09:16 +0900 From: hankido@mac.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean terms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > the term 'dolya chagi' refers to a roundhouse kick. > 'chagi' or 'bal chagi' is the base word for kick. can > someone tell me what 'dolya' means, literally. as far > as i can tell, it means turning. the term 'mom dura > chagi' refers to 'turning kick'. the term 'deyo dora' > means to turn around. here is my question, all three > terms refer to turning on some level, but are > pronounced differently. why? do i have my > terminology wrong? It is kinda difficult to explain it without using hangul, but here it goes: 'dora' is from the verb 'dolda' (http://endic.naver.com/endic.nhn?docid=2226440&rd=s) which means 'to turn (around)'. dora comes from this verb. There is also the verb dollida (http://endic.naver.com/endic.nhn?docid=2226650) with pretty much the same meaning. One of the verbs is (if I am not mistaken) an active and the other one a passive verb. -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.sangmookwan.com/ --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Daryl Covington" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] SC HKD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dr. George I. Petrotta Personal: gpettrotta@sc.rr.com ISA Business: isahdq@sc.rr.com Dr. Petrotta is 8th Dan HKD, directly under In Sun Seo. Also, he knows most everyone worth their weight in salt in the SC area, so if he's too far, he can recommend a GOOD school for you. (843) 669-1444 1366 Saint Andrews Blvd. Florence, SC 29505 --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Charles Richards To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] New Dojang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net i read "We're moving into a 5000 square foot building. About 70 foot by 70 foot square. Double main doors in the center of one wall. Otherwise virgin open space. Any suggestions? Anything you would have done differently when you opened your last Dojang? mc Reply Dear Gordon, I will assume that like most "vanilla box" retail spaces the restroom is in the rear. I would carve out a U-shape on one side that flows from pro-shop/small lobby in the front to hallway/viewing space on the side to resrooms in the rear. Try to leave as much open training area as you can and have it viewable from the front windows. Make the hallway 6' yo 8' wide with about 3' of viewing glass. Put bar stools along that wall for a minimal space parent viewing area. This also eliminates a 3 year old sibling and mommy walking through training area to use the restroom. Start thinking now about how you will store training aides around the edges of the room so there is a plan and not clutter later. Yours in Jung Do, mc --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:13:02 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings, Mr. Gordon, We entertained the idea of an elevated stage area. It would be good for testings and seminars. I think you're right though, for everyday instruction, I'd rather be among my friends and students, than up on a stage demonstrating a technique. Besides, if you gotta throw someone, they'd land off the elevated area or, you would need a huge stage area. : ) We also considered the idea of a "play" area but, the daycare laws here are like bear traps, if you don't have all your I's crossed and your T's dotted : ) you can end up with fines and law suites and a lock on your door. We would have to up grade the facility way beyond our budget and provide a minimum of square feet per child involved, special bathrooms, an outside play area and a monitored surveillance system. You know, that's a good point about the dressing rooms. We've been using locks on the dressing rooms and what you say about individuals locking them is true at our school too. I wonder what ramifications we would see if we took the locks off? The doors are clearly marked: MEN and WOMEN. This is enough for public restrooms but, they have stalls for dropping your drawers in private. Perhaps, that's not the same. Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:59:14 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings, Mr. Richards, The "U" shaped idea is in our design now. The bathrooms are in the middle on one side and the practice floor will comprise the center and the other side of the building. The chief instructor wants an office away from the front door, yet immediate access to the practice floor. His office will be in the rear behind the dressing rooms along the same side wall. There are a couple of couches in a wide hall leading to the chief instructor's door so people wanting to speak with him can wait their turn in comfort. Up front we plan our lobby with windowed walls between the lobby and the practice floor. We have bleachers that our parents and prospects can watch class from and a few park benches for students to put on and take off their shoes. The lobby flows to one side into the retail area and a counter with a small office terminates the space where you can purchase merchandise or drinks and snacks. This is where our full time receptionist / Leadership / office staff / sales clerk (my wife) sits. We have a BIG sign stating where you can have food and drinks and where you cannot. The little ones, you know, they can make a real big mess. The other side of the lobby there will be two interview / mini dojang rooms, about 15 X 12 each, complete with padded floor, hand targets, kicking bag and mirrors. We currently have 16 people in our Leadership Team with 8 highly active. They rotate in and out of the sales position during class times so all can get a good workout. They also run interference for the chief instructor. They answer all the basic questions like; merchandise purchases, how is my child doing, you should change this, class times, curriculum and the like. This keeps many people off of the chief instructor's back so he can talk to the people he should be talking to. We have a large room planned for storage. For some reason, we have collected promotional signs, tables, chairs, camping and picnic supplies, assorted vending machines, weight benches, warming plates, coffee pots and a refrigerator or two. Not to mention the huge inflatable balls that the aerobics and kickboxing class uses. Hopefully, there will be room for our MA gear. LOL! Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Frank Clay" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:05:45 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] My specialization Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dave, My specialty is in medical device and pharmaceutical manufacturing. I have a two subspecialities of software/computer systems and aseptic environments (ISO14644-1/2). Because of the latter, I have to be periodically "plated" and know as a result that there are no residual colonies of MRSA on my body. This is how I KNOW that you CAN be cleared and culture free... not to mention, this information was also provided by two infectious diseases doctors, which had to be done to authorize the plating process. Obviously when dealing with a parenteral or a Class III device, there is significant risk of injury to the patient, hence the pre-cautions. Hope this helps. f. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:08:42 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Gordon, - A break room. Duh! We DO live there! Never occurred to me. I was also thinking of a fold-up cot in the chief instructor's office. Problem is, you gotta watch out for allegations of sexual harassment with a cot in an isolated room. I guess we could put a camera in his office too. Yah, I think we better. Sheesh! Another sign of the times we live in. Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 10 From: To: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:38:31 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Shameless plug for new product Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a heads up to let everyone know I have a new video series put together comprising the whole curriculum I teach up to 1st black. It is a bit different as I have tried to make the curriculum so it is easy to customize for the individual. As all good instructors would do face-to-face I have given thought to different ways of doing things on the videos so that the viewer can pick the one best suited. I have gotten good reviews so far, from others as well as my own students who knew most of the curriculum already and still learned alot. Anyways here is the link to the eBay store I have set up. There are limited quantities as there are plans for a rehauling of the packaging but the content will left as is. http://stores.ebay.com/Draigs-Martial-Art-DVDs_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm Lorne Keatley PS If you contact me and I do not respond it is because my time at the computer is really limited as of late. --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang From: "Thomas Gordon" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Okerstrom, (Great first name you got btw.) Thanks for the notice about the play room. I tell ya, it can get real sticky real fast when dealing with the government. The play room isn’t a "leave your child" room. It’s a place where little guys can be entertained for 30-45 minutes. It’s a pit stop never intended to be a substitute for day care. Parents generally stand at the half door and look in as the older sibling takes class. It keeps the little guys from being underfoot. At some point we’re going to put a couch in the very back storage room and make part of it into an area where our children can do their homework, take a nap, read, etc. At that point, it won’t be open to anyone other than our immediate family members. Couple that with a break room and it’ll be a decent home away from home. In regards to locked dressing rooms, I prefer the locks because I don’t want any accidental (or not so accidental) blunders. Right now we have two dressing rooms about a 5’ wide by 12’ long. Take one of them way and make three unisex dressing rooms that would be 5x4. That’s plenty big. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:29:15 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] 1st WTF World Cup Taekwondo Team Chamnpionships Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 1st WTF World Cup Taekwondo Team Chamnpionships Wrap Up in Great Success 18 Sep 2006 BANGKOK, Thailand - The 1st WTF World Cup Taekwondo Team Championships wrapped up its five-day event here on Sept. 18, 2006, in a great success for good reasons. The Championships, which took place at the Hua Mark Indoor Stadium, were regarded as one of the best organized taekwondo events, with the least protests during the competitions. The Fair Play Award and the Best Coach Award were newly created. In the overall medal tally, Korea clinched both male and female titles in the individual and team competitions of the championships. "This championship was by far one of the best organized championships we have ever had." said Dr. Chungwon Choue, president of the World Taekwondo Federation, in his prepared speech text handed out to local journalists on the final day of the championships. Dr. Choue especially thanked the organizer of the event, the Taekwondo Association of Thailand, for such an excellent organization of the championships. "To the referees, I am heartened by your determination to ensure the fairness of the matches. Such dedication to the spirit of fairness in sports is essential to the growth of taekwondo," Choue said. "In this championship, I can feel that the level of refereeing has improved to another level." During the closing ceremony, WTF President Choue honored five international referees for their efforts to ensure fair judgment and refereeing at the World Cup Championships. The recipients of the Best Referee Award were Jessica B. Stenholm of Norway, Khim Hua Seng of Australia, Sin Dong Jun of Japan, Sheyka Vladimir Iva of Russia, and Tung Ya Ling of Chinese Taipei.. WTF President Choue also said, "To the athletes, you have treated us to some spectacular matches. Every sweat, every injury is evident of your total commitment to our sport." "I am especially heartened to witness the final of the male middleweight division between the athlete from Iran and the athlete from Italy. The unyielding spirit and fair play mentality of both athletes epitomize the beauty of our sport." In this regard, Dr. Choue presented the newly established Fair Play Award to the Italian team during the ceremony. In the final match of the male middleweight category of the individual competition of the championships on Sept. 14, the Italian athlete, Mauro Sarmientio, was in obvious pain from his injuries sustained in earlier bouts and his movements severely hindered. Nonetheless, he fought on and completed the match against Iranian Mehdi Bibak Asi. At the end of the match, both contestants embraced warmly in true fair play spirit. "What I am especially pleased to see is the diversity in the winners. Thailand has emerged as a force to be reckoned with, along with other up-and-coming power houses in the sport," Dr. Choue said. "Such competition will lead our sport to greater heights." Among the 35 participating countries in the championships, 19 countries won at least one medal. In the individual competition of the World Cup on Sept. 14-17, Korea won seven gold medals, two silver medals and four bronze medals overall, followed by Spain with two golds, two silvers and three bronzes. In the overall medal tally, host Thailand came third with two golds, one silver and three bronzes, followed by Iran with two golds, one silver and one bronze. Australia ranked fifth with one gold and two silvers, with Russia winning one gold and one bronze. Norway earned one gold, with Italy grabbing three silvers. In the one-day team competition of the World Cup Championships on Sept. 18, Korea won both male and female team titles. In the female division, Turkey stood at second place, with China finishing third. In the male division, Iran came second and France third. WTF President Choue also mentioned the spectators in his remarks. "To the spectators, I am extremely glad to be part of the championships. Every day, the atmosphere and support from the fans are electrifying. The citizens of Thailand have embraced us with open arms." During the championships, a Samsung booth was set up at the entrance of the competition area. Samsung, the global partner of the WTF, sponsored the championships. "Finally, I wish to extend my congratulations to the citizens of Thailand for the 60th anniversary of the accession to the throne of His Majesty, King Bhumibol," Dr. Choue said. During the closing ceremony, the Best Player awards were presented to Korea's Chang-ha Jang in the male division, and Thailand's Yaowapa Boorapholchai in the female division. The Best Coach awards were given to Thailand's Young-seok Choi in the male category and Korea's Sun-mi Park in the female division. The Good Fighting Spirit awards were delivered to five countries: Egypt (Africa), Turkey (Europe), the United States (Pan America), China and Chinese Taipei (Asia). The Good Fighting Spirit awards are given to teams that, although lacking in gold medals, participate with the most desirable spirit and attitude. The award is given to one member national association per continent, as a form of encouragement and recognition of the courageous efforts of the teams. There are two nations from Asia, as Australia was the only representative from Oceania and had already won the gold medal. The WTF's ad-hoc Evaluation Committee recommended the creation of a new award – Fair Play Award for Athletes and Good Fighting Spirit Award for Athletes. The committee said it believes that the new awards would be a good incentive to encourage athletes to propagate the true spirit of fair play through the sport of taekwondo. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest