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Today's Topics:

   1. TKD/MDK Hist. (Johnnie Rouse)
   2. Re: Opening a New Dojang (Joseph Cheavens)
   3. Opening/running a school (Thomas Gordon)
   4. changing areas (Charles Richards)
   5. Re: Opening a New Dojang (John Chambers)
   6. Dressing Rooms (Lois Knorr)

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Message: 1
From: "Johnnie Rouse" <rmetals@cmaaccess.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:53:59 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD/MDK Hist.
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<John Chambers wrote:
<Just wanted you to know that I am researching the history of all the <past
<presidents and in their proper order for the Korea TaeKwonDo <Association.

<I have also compiled that of the MooDukKwan
<Association.

Hi John
I'd love to see what you come up with too.

Thanks
Johnnie Rouse

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Message: 2
From: "Joseph Cheavens" <jcheavens@hotmail.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:35:05 -0500
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

What kind of flooring have you considered?  One relatively inexpensive
system that I know of that one of my seniors used was to float the floor
on a bunch of old tires (i.e. wooden frame resting on tires and not tied
into the wall). He used plain old plywood decking that he sanded down and
shelacked with polyeurethene fiinish. Even being a wood floor, it was
pretty easy to take falls on (as long as you fell correctly), as the
floor had a lot of give (the harder you fall the more it gives), and had
a little bit of give when doing jumping or flying kicks, so it was easier
on the knees than wood over concrete or even puzzle mats over concrete. I
would think that using puzzle mats over such a floor would be pretty much
ideal.

Joe Cheavens

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:47:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Thomas Gordon" <tgordon@gordonmartialarts.com>
Subject: [The_Dojang] Opening/running a school
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

A few quotes I received this morning from a man I consider pretty smart. 
I modified it to apply for us martial artists running a school.

The worst thing a martial art school owner/instructor can do to its
students is fail to survive.

The second worst thing a martial art school owner/instructor can do to its
students is fail to charge enough to serve the students well.

One thing I've learned from the experts in my daytime career and then
reading/hearing the same basic advice from those in the martial art world
is that business is business.  And in a service business, a potential
customer/student has three things to consider.  Price - Service -
Location/Facility.  The student gets to chose two.  With the exception
being a school owner using their is supplemental income to basically buy
down the students rate.  May make them feel good but it's a dumb business
decision.  Been there myself.

Thomas Gordon
Florida

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charles Richards <mojakwan@yahoo.com>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] changing areas
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

i read
  "How many of y'all have "open" dressing rooms? At my 
previous school, we had dressing rooms that just had a curtain on it (people had plenty of space to change without being "exposed" when the curtain was pulled to the 
side).
The thought process was to not provide a locked / closed area where 
anything improper could happen with a child, etc., and to decrease liability... 
Of course, we still had the bathroom, sooooo...
             Does anyone else subscribe to that theory or have anything 
to offer on it?"
   
  mc reply
  Locked door = not good
  Open door = nothing to hide
  At my new employer all management up to and including the owners never close their office doors.....kinda makes you more aware of what you're doing in your office.....as much as your staff in cubicles maybe :-)
   
  My students wear black pants and a martial arts T-shirt to class.  The top and belt can be put on facing away from flags and instructor on the training floor.
  Our new location is in Gold's Gym with mens and womens seperate locker rooms.  There are no doors anywhere except the W/C stalls and the Sauna.
   
  If starting from scratch I would go with a unisex bathroom with an "in-use" flag that shows when the door is locked, and the curtain area or no changing area.
   
  mc
   
  
 

 		
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Message: 5
From: "John Chambers" <professorjohn@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:56:49 -0400
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Joseph:

Years ago, I built such a floating floor using old tires and plywood. My 
floor was 25' By 40'. Once you lay out the exact mat measurement by placing 
the tires side by side to cover the space required, you then box it in with 
2" by 12" wide boards, joined at the corners. This creates something similar 
to a big sand box like a kid would play in, with exception of replacing the 
sand with old car tires.
A plywood tope to cover the tires, leaving a couple inches of space around 
all for sides, allows the plywood floor to float.
Makes a great judo mat area, by adding a 2' condensed foam cover over the 
floor and then covered with a stretched canvas.
will last forever and just enough spring to make falling a breeze.
Good suggestion to use the joining mats for non-judo martial arts.

John Chambers
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Cheavens" <jcheavens@hotmail.com>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Opening a New Dojang


> What kind of flooring have you considered? One relatively inexpensive
> system that I know of that one of my seniors used was to float the floor
> on a bunch of old tires (i.e. wooden frame resting on tires and not tied
> into the wall). He used plain old plywood decking that he sanded down and
> shelacked with polyeurethene fiinish. Even being a wood floor, it was
> pretty easy to take falls on (as long as you fell correctly), as the
> floor had a lot of give (the harder you fall the more it gives), and had
> a little bit of give when doing jumping or flying kicks, so it was easier
> on the knees than wood over concrete or even puzzle mats over concrete. I
> would think that using puzzle mats over such a floor would be pretty much
> ideal.
>
> Joe Cheavens
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lois Knorr <tkdcopperdragon@yahoo.ca>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [The_Dojang] Dressing Rooms
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

To:  Bert Edens, II Dan TKD
   
  We have non-lockable doors on two dressing rooms.  One for males and one for females.  We also have a curtain on a rod across the area where the door opens, to avoid exposing any student who is changing when the door is opened.  To enter or leave the dressing room, one must go through the door and then around the curtain.  There is room beyond the curtain for four to five students to change at the same time.  There are small lockers available and equipment bags are required to be brought out of the changing rooms to avoid congestion.
   
  Lois, martial arts student

 				
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