Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 02:58:29 -0800> From: the_dojang-request@martialart= sresource.net> Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #480 - 6 msgs> To: the_do= jang@martialartsresource.net> > Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to= > the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via th= e World Wide Web, visit> http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/t= he_dojang> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> t= he_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net> > You can reach the person manag= ing the list at> the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net> > When replying= , please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents = of The_Dojang digest..."> > > <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing lis= t ------------------>>> > Serving the Internet since June 1994.> Copyrigh= t 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> > The Internet's premier = discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts.> 2,100 members.> > See the= Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine> for back issue= s of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com> > Pil Seung!> > Today's = Topics:> > 1. RE: stretching routines (michael tomlinson)> 2. RE: str= etching routines (Jye nigma)> 3. Re: Experiencing Korean art of self-def= ence (Joseph Cheavens)> 4. Hello (kwan jang)> 5. Re: Streaching (stev= en riggs)> 6. Re: Re: warm-ups (steven riggs)> > --__--__--> > Message: = 1> From: "michael tomlinson" > To: the_dojan= g@martialartsresource.net> Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] stretching routines> D= ate: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:56:50 +0000> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresou= rce.net> > I don't believe so..IMO it has more to do with stretching the in= ner muscles > of the thighs and flexors...---Michael Tomlinson> > >From: Jy= e nigma > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>= >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] stretc= hing routines> >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:13:23 -0800 (PST)> >> >while we're= on the topic of stretching, can someone tell me about the hip > >joint? WH= y is it that some people when sitting on their bottom with both > >feet bro= ught in close to the body sole of feet touching, some people's > >knees tou= ch the ground and some stick up? Is this a permanent thing for > >those who= 's knees are off the ground?> >> > Jye> >> >> >harold stabe wrote:> > In my Kenpo class, we start with 3 minute routines= such as jabs for one> >minute, then jab cross combos, then add a knee etc.= We do three to five of> >these 3 minute rounds then do pushups, squats and = crunches. It seems to > >make> >the stretching part a lot easier.Bill Walla= ce says that the ideal > >conditions> >for stretching are time, tension and= temperature. I also like to do > >circular> >stenghth routines from Scott = Sonnon and Joe wilson. These routines get > >blood> >and synovial fluid to = the joints and really warms you up.Hope this helps> >> >> > >From: Mike Don= ahoo> > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > >To: the_dojang@ma= rtialartsresource.net> > >Subject: [The_Dojang] stretching routines> > >Dat= e: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:48:59 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >greetings all! i have que= stions about every ones> > >stretching routines. does anyone do any light> = > >calisthenics or plyometrics before there stretching?> > >i hear a lot of= varying opinions of whether stretching> > >cold is any more productive tha= n a light routine of> > >jumping jacks, lunges, and squats. in my december>= > >2006 mens health magazine, page 58, the united states> > >military acad= emy just finished a study doing a> > >stretching routine after a set of jum= ping jacks, arm> > >circles, push-ups, lunges and body weight squats for> >= >30 seconds each improved activities such as sprinting,> > >jumping, and t= hrowing. any thoughts on this? also,> > >for any members that live in cold = climates, do you> > >change your stretching routine to adapt to the> > >wea= ther? last night here in iowa, our night temp> > >during class time was 15 = degrees fargh. that is cold> > >enough to make getting warmed up thoroughly= difficult> > >even in a heated matted room. any suggestions?> > >thanks in= advance.> > >> > >In devotion to the arts,> > >Mike Donahoo> > >> > >> > >= > > >______________________________________________________________________= ______________> > >Yahoo! Music Unlimited> > >Access over 1 million songs.>= > >http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited> > >__________________________________= _____________> > >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> > >The_Dojang@mar= tialartsresource.net> > >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Re= source> > >Standard disclaimers apply> > >http://martialartsresource.net/ma= ilman/listinfo/the_dojang> >> >____________________________________________= _____________________> >Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and busine= ss Web site from> >Microsoft Office Live> >http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrs= saub0050001411mrt/direct/01/> >____________________________________________= ___> >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> >The_Dojang@martialartsresour= ce.net> >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> >Standar= d disclaimers apply> >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_d= ojang> >> >> >> >---------------------------------> >Check out the all-new = Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and > >get things done fas= ter.> >_______________________________________________> >The_Dojang mailing= list, 2,100 members> >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net> >Copyright 1994-= 2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> >Standard disclaimers apply> >ht= tp://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> > _______________= __________________________________________________> View Athlete=92s Collec= tions with Live Search > http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=3Dhmem= ailtaglinenov06&FORM=3DMGAC01> > --__--__--> > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 1 Dec= 2006 10:03:50 -0800 (PST)> From: Jye nigma > Subject: R= E: [The_Dojang] stretching routines> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net= > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > I just remember being fle= xible as a child but could never do that. I could put my leg over my head b= ut couldn't do that. So I started wondering is it a matter of structure.> = > Jye> > > michael tomlinson wrote:> = I don't believe so..IMO it has more to do with stretching the inner muscl= es > of the thighs and flexors...---Michael Tomlinson> > >From: Jye nigma >= >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> >To: the_dojang@martialarts= resource.net> >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] stretching routines> >Date: Fri, 1= Dec 2006 08:13:23 -0800 (PST)> >> >while we're on the topic of stretching,= can someone tell me about the hip > >joint? WHy is it that some people whe= n sitting on their bottom with both > >feet brought in close to the body so= le of feet touching, some people's > >knees touch the ground and some stick= up? Is this a permanent thing for > >those who's knees are off the ground?= > >> > Jye> >> >> >harold stabe wrote:> > In my Kenpo class, we start with = 3 minute routines such as jabs for one> >minute, then jab cross combos, the= n add a knee etc.We do three to five of> >these 3 minute rounds then do pus= hups, squats and crunches. It seems to > >make> >the stretching part a lot = easier.Bill Wallace says that the ideal > >conditions> >for stretching are = time, tension and temperature. I also like to do > >circular> >stenghth rou= tines from Scott Sonnon and Joe wilson. These routines get > >blood> >and s= ynovial fluid to the joints and really warms you up.Hope this helps> >> >> = > >From: Mike Donahoo> > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > >= To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > >Subject: [The_Dojang] stretching= routines> > >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:48:59 -0800 (PST)> > >> > >greeting= s all! i have questions about every ones> > >stretching routines. does anyo= ne do any light> > >calisthenics or plyometrics before there stretching?> >= >i hear a lot of varying opinions of whether stretching> > >cold is any mo= re productive than a light routine of> > >jumping jacks, lunges, and squats= . in my december> > >2006 mens health magazine, page 58, the united states>= > >military academy just finished a study doing a> > >stretching routine a= fter a set of jumping jacks, arm> > >circles, push-ups, lunges and body wei= ght squats for> > >30 seconds each improved activities such as sprinting,> = > >jumping, and throwing. any thoughts on this? also,> > >for any members t= hat live in cold climates, do you> > >change your stretching routine to ada= pt to the> > >weather? last night here in iowa, our night temp> > >during c= lass time was 15 degrees fargh. that is cold> > >enough to make getting war= med up thoroughly difficult> > >even in a heated matted room. any suggestio= ns?> > >thanks in advance.> > >> > >In devotion to the arts,> > >Mike Donah= oo> > >> > >> > >> > >_____________________________________________________= _______________________________> > >Yahoo! Music Unlimited> > >Access over = 1 million songs.> > >http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited> > >_________________= ______________________________> > >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> = > >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net> > >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry an= d Martial Arts Resource> > >Standard disclaimers apply> > >http://martialar= tsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> >> >___________________________= ______________________________________> >Get FREE company branded e-mail ac= counts and business Web site from> >Microsoft Office Live> >http://clk.atdm= t.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/> >___________________________= ____________________> >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> >The_Dojang@= martialartsresource.net> >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts R= esource> >Standard disclaimers apply> >http://martialartsresource.net/mailm= an/listinfo/the_dojang> >> >> >> >---------------------------------> >Check= out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and > >ge= t things done faster.> >_______________________________________________> >T= he_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net>= >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> >Standard discl= aimers apply> >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> = > _________________________________________________________________> View A= thlete=92s Collections with Live Search > http://sportmaps.live.com/index.h= tml?source=3Dhmemailtaglinenov06&FORM=3DMGAC01> ___________________________= ____________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> The_Dojang@ma= rtialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Reso= urce> Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/l= istinfo/the_dojang> > > > ---------------------------------> Access over 1= million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.> > --__--__--> > Message: 3> From:= "Joseph Cheavens" > To: the_dojang@martialartsresou= rce.net> Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Experiencing Korean art of self-defence>= Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:22:32 -0600> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsres= ource.net> > I don't know whether I'm going cry, scream, hurl, or all of th= e above if> I read another "ancient Korean MA" origin story for TKD.> > Joe= Cheavens> > ------------------------------------------------------------= --------> > From: Jye nigma > Reply-To: the_dojang@m= artialartsresource.net> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> Subject= : Re: [The_Dojang] Experiencing Korean art of self-defence> Date: Fri, 1 = Dec 2006 08:41:50 -0800 (PST)> I think ITFers will be mad as hell when th= ey read this, and get to> the part about TKD origins...lol.> > Jye> > = The_Dojang wrote:> Experiencing Korean art= of self-defence> By Huraizah Ahmad> Borneo Bulletin> > 'Taekwondo' t= ruly represents an art of self-defence that is all and> uniquely Korean. = A visit to Korea without experiencing the art of> Taekwondo for oneself i= s incomplete.> > Four journalists from the Philippines and Brunei Darussa= lam including> the writer had the opportunity to experience for themselve= s the basic> techniques of Taekwondo in its true form during their recent= visit to> Seoul. They were introduced to a master of the sport - Master = Ryan An> - at his academy in Seoul.> > Master Ryan An has mastered Taek= wondo for a number of years and his> love for the sport has encouraged hi= m and his wife to establish their> own Taekwondo academy where they teach= young children as well as> foreign visitors to experience the martial ar= t for themselves.> > The exclusive one-day Taekwondo training was tailore= d for the> journalists who wanted to study the art of self-defence.> > = After participating in some stretching exercises and understanding> the> = basics of the heavy safety gears that the journalists had to don,> they= > were expected to break the individual Taekwondo boards using the mere> = force of untrained fists.> > Although some may relate 'Taekwondo' as th= e "Korean Karate", the> martial art has since the beginning of time caugh= t the attention of a> number of international followers.> > The traditi= onal Korean martial art directly translates to the word> 'The Way of Kick= ing and Striking'. This art form uses the force of> the> hands and feet= to challenge an opponent and its precise kick> movements> have become = the trademark of the sport.> > Its strength in the Korean roots has made = a group of Korean martial> art leaders to choose Taekwondo as a dominatin= g Korean martial art in> 1955 and it has since drew strong followers inte= rnationally.> > Although its origin may still be unknown, some have their= own ideas> of> how it came about.> > According to some beliefs, the = art has been linked to Korea's> three-kingdom era when the Silla Dynasty = warriors, the Hwarang, began> to develop a martial art that was then know= n as 'Tae Kyon' meaning> foot-hand.> > Others feel that Taekwondo began= as a form of Chinese boxing, which> was established at the Shaolin Templ= e in 520 BC by Bodhidharma, the> founder of Zen Buddhism.> > A third po= ssibility is that Taekwondo developed from Japanese or> Okinawan Karate.>= > However, strong testimonials have attributed the origins of Taekwondo>= to the influences of other Asian martial art techniques combined with> = traditional Korean techniques of kickboxing.> __________________________= _____________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> The_Doja= ng@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Ar= ts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> http://martialartsresource.net= /mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> > ---------------------------------> Ever= yone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.> _____________________= __________________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members> The= _Dojang@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Marti= al Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply> http://martialartsresourc= e.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> > --------------------------------------= ----------------------------------> > Share your latest news with your frie= nds with the Windows Live Spaces> friends module.> > --__--__--> > Message:= 4> From: "kwan jang" > To: the_dojang@martialartsre= source.net> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:26:43 -0500> Subject: [The_Dojang] He= llo> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > Bobby writes:> "My nam= e is Bobby Moore and I am new to the Dojang Digest. "> > Hi Bobby. Glad yo= u joined us. Used to know a Bobby Moore in Michigan... > great competitor.= Probably not the same, but worth a shot.> > > Warmest personal regards,> = Rudy Timmerman> > --__--__--> > Message: 5> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:31:27 = -0800 (PST)> From: steven riggs > Subject: Re: [The= _Dojang] Streaching> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> Reply-To: the_= dojang@martialartsresource.net> > Mr Kurz is actually Polish I believe alth= ough that is irrelevant in my mind. He is very intelligent,well educated an= d up to date on all current scientific knowledge concerning stretching and= strengthening for maximum performance. He does break down stretching into= static, passive, dynamic and focus's heavily on weight training and isomet= ric exercises. He has several books and videos that are quite informative. = > Steven Riggs > > "RICHARD LAWS (RICHARD.LAWS)" wrote:> Dude,> Find a book called 'streaching scientifically' by Kurt= z. Ok, he's russian (joke) but he is really clear as to the best way to str= each. He worked with the spetznaz and stuff.> Basically he defines streache= s into two major classes, isometric and static.> Static streaches use only = the body wieght to improve flexibility, isomaetric streaches use resistance= in the streach which increases muscle strength and flexibility. > > Taekwo= ndo times has a regular column by this dude, > He is amazing> > Oh, FYI i d= on't hate russians.... > dos vidania> Rich> > [demime 0.98e removed an atta= chment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]> ______= _________________________________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 m= embers> The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry = and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsr= esource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang> > > > Sensei Steven Riggs> Senio= r Instructor> American Defensive Arts> stevencriggs@yahoo.com> www.am= ericandefensivearts.org > 828-322-6904> > > ----------------------------= -----> Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful ema= il and get things done faster.> > --__--__--> > Message: 6> Date: Fri, 1 De= c 2006 11:36:22 -0800 (PST)> From: steven riggs > S= ubject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: warm-ups> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.n= et> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > Why not incorporate str= etching and strengthening exercises that most closely replicate actual move= s we do in the martial arts. Jumping jacks don't come close to anything we = do. Yoga exercises are excellent for after a vigorous workout but being a p= assive stretch and elongating the muscles it actually makes them weaker on = a temporary basis. While weaker the muscles would then be stressed with kic= king etc. and possibly more prone to strain or sprains. This information co= mes not only from Mr Kurz but many other people into exercise physiology, k= inesiology and current scientific data derived from testing at various Univ= ersities.> Steven> > sidtkd@aol.com wrote:> We have students do jumping= jacks and the usuual stretches followed by some yoga stretching. I usuuall= y incorporate some light weight training as well.> > > Sid> _______________= _________________________________________________________> Check out the ne= w AOL. 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> Today's Topics:
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= > 1. RE: stretching routines (michael tomlinson)
> 2. RE: st= retching routines (Jye nigma)
> 3. Re: Experiencing Korean art of = self-defence (Joseph Cheavens)
> 4. Hello (kwan jang)
> 5= . Re: Streaching (steven riggs)
> 6. Re: Re: warm-ups (steven rigg= s)
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> Message: 1
> From: "m= ichael tomlinson" <tomlinson_michael@hotmail.com>
> To: the_doj= ang@martialartsresource.net
> Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] stretching ro= utines
> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:56:50 +0000
> Reply-To: the_= dojang@martialartsresource.net
>
> I don't believe so..IMO it = has more to do with stretching the inner muscles
> of the thighs and= flexors...---Michael Tomlinson
>
> >From: Jye nigma <ki= ngjye@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.ne= t
> >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> >Subject: R= E: [The_Dojang] stretching routines
> >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:13= :23 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >while we're on the topic of stretc= hing, can someone tell me about the hip
> >joint? WHy is it that = some people when sitting on their bottom with both
> >feet brough= t in close to the body sole of feet touching, some people's
> >kn= ees touch the ground and some stick up? Is this a permanent thing for
&= gt; >those who's knees are off the ground?
> >
> > J= ye
> >
> >
> >harold stabe <haroldstabe@hotma= il.com> wrote:
> > In my Kenpo class, we start with 3 minute = routines such as jabs for one
> >minute, then jab cross combos, th= en add a knee etc.We do three to five of
> >these 3 minute rounds = then do pushups, squats and crunches. It seems to
> >make
>= >the stretching part a lot easier.Bill Wallace says that the ideal
= > >conditions
> >for stretching are time, tension and temper= ature. I also like to do
> >circular
> >stenghth routine= s from Scott Sonnon and Joe wilson. These routines get
> >blood> >and synovial fluid to the joints and really warms you up.Hope th= is helps
> >
> >
> > >From: Mike Donahoo
&= gt; > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> > >= To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> > >Subject: [The_Dojan= g] stretching routines
> > >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:48:59 -08= 00 (PST)
> > >
> > >greetings all! i have questions= about every ones
> > >stretching routines. does anyone do any = light
> > >calisthenics or plyometrics before there stretching?=
> > >i hear a lot of varying opinions of whether stretching> > >cold is any more productive than a light routine of
> = > >jumping jacks, lunges, and squats. in my december
> > >= ;2006 mens health magazine, page 58, the united states
> > >mil= itary academy just finished a study doing a
> > >stretching rou= tine after a set of jumping jacks, arm
> > >circles, push-ups, = lunges and body weight squats for
> > >30 seconds each improved= activities such as sprinting,
> > >jumping, and throwing. any = thoughts on this? also,
> > >for any members that live in cold = climates, do you
> > >change your stretching routine to adapt t= o the
> > >weather? last night here in iowa, our night temp
= > > >during class time was 15 degrees fargh. that is cold
> = > >enough to make getting warmed up thoroughly difficult
> >= >even in a heated matted room. any suggestions?
> > >thanks= in advance.
> > >
> > >In devotion to the arts,> > >Mike Donahoo
> > >
> > >
> >= ; >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:03:50 -0= 800 (PST)
> From: Jye nigma <kingjye@yahoo.com>
> Subject= : RE: [The_Dojang] stretching routines
> To: the_dojang@martialartsre= source.net
> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> > I just remember being flexible as a child but could never do that. I = could put my leg over my head but couldn't do that. So I started wondering = is it a matter of structure.
>
> Jye
>
> <= br>> michael tomlinson <tomlinson_michael@hotmail.com> wrote:
&= gt; I don't believe so..IMO it has more to do with stretching the inner m= uscles
> of the thighs and flexors...---Michael Tomlinson
> > >From: Jye nigma
> >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsres= ource.net
> >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> >Su= bject: RE: [The_Dojang] stretching routines
> >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 20= 06 08:13:23 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >while we're on the topic o= f stretching, can someone tell me about the hip
> >joint? WHy is = it that some people when sitting on their bottom with both
> >fee= t brought in close to the body sole of feet touching, some people's
>= ; >knees touch the ground and some stick up? Is this a permanent thing f= or
> >those who's knees are off the ground?
> >
> = > Jye
> >
> >
> >harold stabe wrote:
> = > In my Kenpo class, we start with 3 minute routines such as jabs for on= e
> >minute, then jab cross combos, then add a knee etc.We do thre= e to five of
> >these 3 minute rounds then do pushups, squats and = crunches. It seems to
> >make
> >the stretching part a l= ot easier.Bill Wallace says that the ideal
> >conditions
> = >for stretching are time, tension and temperature. I also like to do > >circular
> >stenghth routines from Scott Sonnon and Joe = wilson. These routines get
> >blood
> >and synovial flui= d to the joints and really warms you up.Hope this helps
> >
>= ; >
> > >From: Mike Donahoo
> > >Reply-To: the_d= ojang@martialartsresource.net
> > >To: the_dojang@martialartsre= source.net
> > >Subject: [The_Dojang] stretching routines
&g= t; > >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:48:59 -0800 (PST)
> > >> > >greetings all! i have questions about every ones
> &g= t; >stretching routines. does anyone do any light
> > >calis= thenics or plyometrics before there stretching?
> > >i hear a l= ot of varying opinions of whether stretching
> > >cold is any m= ore productive than a light routine of
> > >jumping jacks, lung= es, and squats. in my december
> > >2006 mens health magazine, = page 58, the united states
> > >military academy just finished = a study doing a
> > >stretching routine after a set of jumping = jacks, arm
> > >circles, push-ups, lunges and body weight squat= s for
> > >30 seconds each improved activities such as sprintin= g,
> > >jumping, and throwing. any thoughts on this? also,
&= gt; > >for any members that live in cold climates, do you
> >= ; >change your stretching routine to adapt to the
> > >weath= er? last night here in iowa, our night temp
> > >during class t= ime was 15 degrees fargh. that is cold
> > >enough to make gett= ing warmed up thoroughly difficult
> > >even in a heated matted= room. any suggestions?
> > >thanks in advance.
> > &g= t;
> > >In devotion to the arts,
> > >Mike Donahoo<= br>> > >
> > >
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> Message: = 3
> From: "Joseph Cheavens" <jcheavens@hotmail.com>
> To:= the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Exper= iencing Korean art of self-defence
> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:22:32 = -0600
> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
>
>= I don't know whether I'm going cry, scream, hurl, or all of the above if> I read another "ancient Korean MA" origin story for TKD.
> > Joe Cheavens
>
> -------------------------------------= -------------------------------
>
> From: Jye nigma <king= jye@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> Subject: Re: [The_= Dojang] Experiencing Korean art of self-defence
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec = 2006 08:41:50 -0800 (PST)
> I think ITFers will be mad as hell when= they read this, and get to
> the part about TKD origins...lol.
= >
> Jye
>
> The_Dojang <the.dojang.digest@gma= il.com> wrote:
> Experiencing Korean art of self-defence
>= By Huraizah Ahmad
> Borneo Bulletin
>
> 'Taekwond= o' truly represents an art of self-defence that is all and
> unique= ly Korean. A visit to Korea without experiencing the art of
> Taekw= ondo for oneself is incomplete.
>
> Four journalists from th= e Philippines and Brunei Darussalam including
> the writer had the = opportunity to experience for themselves the basic
> techniques of = Taekwondo in its true form during their recent visit to
> Seoul. Th= ey were introduced to a master of the sport - Master Ryan An
> - at= his academy in Seoul.
>
> Master Ryan An has mastered Taekw= ondo for a number of years and his
> love for the sport has encoura= ged him and his wife to establish their
> own Taekwondo academy whe= re they teach young children as well as
> foreign visitors to exper= ience the martial art for themselves.
>
> The exclusive one-= day Taekwondo training was tailored for the
> journalists who wante= d to study the art of self-defence.
>
> After participating = in some stretching exercises and understanding
> the
> basi= cs of the heavy safety gears that the journalists had to don,
> the= y
> were expected to break the individual Taekwondo boards using th= e mere
> force of untrained fists.
>
> Although some= may relate 'Taekwondo' as the "Korean Karate", the
> martial art h= as since the beginning of time caught the attention of a
> number o= f international followers.
>
> The traditional Korean martia= l art directly translates to the word
> 'The Way of Kicking and Str= iking'. This art form uses the force of
> the
> hands and f= eet to challenge an opponent and its precise kick
> movements
&g= t; have become the trademark of the sport.
>
> Its strengt= h in the Korean roots has made a group of Korean martial
> art lead= ers to choose Taekwondo as a dominating Korean martial art in
> 195= 5 and it has since drew strong followers internationally.
>
> = Although its origin may still be unknown, some have their own ideas
&g= t; of
> how it came about.
>
> According to some b= eliefs, the art has been linked to Korea's
> three-kingdom era when= the Silla Dynasty warriors, the Hwarang, began
> to develop a mart= ial art that was then known as 'Tae Kyon' meaning
> foot-hand.
&= gt;
> Others feel that Taekwondo began as a form of Chinese boxing= , which
> was established at the Shaolin Temple in 520 BC by Bodhid= harma, the
> founder of Zen Buddhism.
>
> A third po= ssibility is that Taekwondo developed from Japanese or
> Okinawan K= arate.
>
> However, strong testimonials have attributed the = origins of Taekwondo
> to the influences of other Asian martial art= techniques combined with
> traditional Korean techniques of kickbo= xing.
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> Message: 4
> From: "kwan= jang" <kwanjang@sympatico.ca>
> To: the_dojang@martialartsreso= urce.net
> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:26:43 -0500
> Subject: [Th= e_Dojang] Hello
> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
>= ;
> Bobby writes:
> "My name is Bobby Moore and I am new to th= e Dojang Digest. "
>
> Hi Bobby. Glad you joined us. Used to= know a Bobby Moore in Michigan...
> great competitor. Probably not= the same, but worth a shot.
>
>
> Warmest personal reg= ards,
> Rudy Timmerman
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> M= essage: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:31:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: = steven riggs <stevencriggs@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [The_Dojan= g] Streaching
> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> Reply-= To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
>
> Mr Kurz is actually= Polish I believe although that is irrelevant in my mind. He is very intell= igent,well educated and up to date on all current scientific knowledge con= cerning stretching and strengthening for maximum performance. He does brea= k down stretching into static, passive, dynamic and focus's heavily on weig= ht training and isometric exercises. He has several books and videos that a= re quite informative.
> Steven Riggs
>
> "RICHARD LA= WS (RICHARD.LAWS)" <RICHARD.LAWS@yorksj.ac.uk> wrote:
> Dude,=
> Find a book called 'streaching scientifically' by Kurtz. Ok, he's = russian (joke) but he is really clear as to the best way to streach. He wor= ked with the spetznaz and stuff.
> Basically he defines streaches int= o two major classes, isometric and static.
> Static streaches use onl= y the body wieght to improve flexibility, isomaetric streaches use resistan= ce in the streach which increases muscle strength and flexibility.
>=
> Taekwondo times has a regular column by this dude,
> He is= amazing
>
> Oh, FYI i don't hate russians....
> dos vi= dania
> Rich
>
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>
> Sensei Steven Riggs
> Senior Instru= ctor
> American Defensive Arts
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> Message: 6
> Date: F= ri, 1 Dec 2006 11:36:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: steven riggs <stevencr= iggs@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: warm-ups
> T= o: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
> Reply-To: the_dojang@martiala= rtsresource.net
>
> Why not incorporate stretching and strengt= hening exercises that most closely replicate actual moves we do in the mart= ial arts. Jumping jacks don't come close to anything we do. Yoga exercises = are excellent for after a vigorous workout but being a passive stretch and = elongating the muscles it actually makes them weaker on a temporary basis. = While weaker the muscles would then be stressed with kicking etc. and possi= bly more prone to strain or sprains. This information comes not only from M= r Kurz but many other people into exercise physiology, kinesiology and curr= ent scientific data derived from testing at various Universities.
> = Steven
>
> sidtkd@aol.com wrote:
> We have students d= o jumping jacks and the usuual stretches followed by some yoga stretching. = I usuually incorporate some light weight training as well.
>
>=
> Sid
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