>From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #485 - 5 msgs >Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:58:27 -0800 > >Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to > the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." > > ><<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> > >Serving the Internet since June 1994. >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > >The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. >2,100 members. > >See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine >for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com > >Pil Seung! > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Dan recognition (sidtkd@aol.com) > 2. RE: No fighting ultimate fighting's rise (Joseph Cheavens) > 3. Back from lurk mode (Gladewater SooBahkDo) > 4. RE: Back from lurk mode (Joseph Cheavens) > 5. MDK revisited (Ray) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:46:08 -0500 >From: sidtkd@aol.com >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan recognition >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >When I got my 3rd dan in WTF tkd I was offered 3rd in ITF tkd. The >Sabunim's thinking was that essentially we practice the same art. I always >felt this was a real good thing, as we would benefit from each others >training insights. It happens I'm partial to ITF forms as they are >reminiscent of the Moo Duk Kwan forms I learned in 1964. Yes...I'm old. > > >Sid >________________________________________________________________________ >Check out the new AOL. 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What does the author think is the reason for the >rise of MMA in general and the UFC in particular?  Was this intended to >get me to buy a copy of USA Today? > >Joe Cheavens > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: The_Dojang > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Subject: [The_Dojang] No fighting ultimate fighting's rise > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:58:08 -0800 > No fighting ultimate fighting's rise > USA Today > > Ultimate fighting has been in the public consciousness for at least a > decade. Friends aired "The One with the Ultimate Fighting Champion" > in > May 1997. That episode used the sport as an excuse to break up Monica > and multibillionaire Pete (Jon Favreau), who clings to his delusions > of competency in the ring to Monica's horror. > > A couple of months ago, we asked if UFC and other mixed martial arts > competitions were replacing boxing as America's favorite combat > sport. > > Today, USA TODAY's Life section takes us to a UFC competition in > Sacramento (the one in which Tim Sylvia ... wait ... we'll stop there > in case you've got it on Tivo) and finds that it's drawing everyone > from teachers to paramedics to Hollywood agents, all boosting the > sport's substantial ratings on Spike. > > Wikipedia provides a rough guide to the various forms of this rough > sport. Some aspects of it aren't unique. Olympic-style judo sees > athletes using chokes and armbars to force opponents to submit (or > pass out, whichever comes first). Taekwondo and various forms of > karate or kickboxing include kicking and punching. > > So what makes this sport special? Why is it drawing crowds to arenas, > cable TV and pay-per-view? > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in >Holiday cash! > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:57:30 -0600 >Subject: [The_Dojang] Back from lurk mode >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >The founder of Moo Duk Kwan Hwang Kee issued all legitamate Moo Duk Kwan >Rank until his death. Now his son HC Hwang KJN issues all Moo Duk Kwan dan >ranks. All other ranks issued by people claiming Moo Duk Kwan affiliation >are doing so with out the authoritory of the founder of the Kwan. This is >not to say they are not good Martial artist, or good teachers, Just that >they are not recognizised by the Original Moo Duk Kwan founder or his >organization. > >On another note: I spend the last week training with the Gracie family. I >trained 30 hours last week 5 days 6 hours each day. It was a great >experiance. Rolling with people of that caliber will test you on so many >levels. I watched Rener Gracie spar 47 people and sumit all of them in in >32 >minutes. We also had a man come in off the street and challange Rener, >Rener >accepted the challange on the spot and sumitted the guy in 43 seconds, 20 >seconds of that was getting the guy down to the ground. > >JC > >_________________________________________________________________ >Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "Joseph Cheavens" >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Back from lurk mode >Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:39:19 -0600 >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Good info and sounds like a great time with the Gracies. I was able to >attend a one hour seminar with Relson last Friday and really wish that my >schedule had permited me to attend the Thursday seminar and the second >hour of the Friday seminar, as I learned so much in that one hour and, as >you said, its really great to roll with someone of that caliber. > >Joe Cheavens > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio >powered by Pandora > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: Ray >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:37:09 -0800 (PST) >Subject: [The_Dojang] MDK revisited >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > > ... This is > > not to say they are not good Martial artist, or good teachers, Just that > > they are not recognizised by the Original Moo Duk Kwan founder or his > > organization. > >That is no doubt the case. The reverse is also true... that those with >SBD MDK rank are not recognized by the Korea TKD MDK Assoc. > >After 40+ years, neither group should be overly concerned with that fact. >:) > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang >http://the-dojang.net > >Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang > >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com >Standard disclaimers apply. >Remember September 11. > > >End of The_Dojang Digest