Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:58:27 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #496 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Pronounce Name (Dennis McHenry) 2. Looking for San Jose, CA do jang (Kay Ethier at Above and Beyond Learning) 3. Re: pronounce name (aburrese@aol.com) 4. RE: Looking for San Jose, CA do jang (Michael) 5. RE: Re: pronounce name (Joseph Cheavens) 6. History made at Doha Asian Games (The_Dojang) 7. On-Line Banking System (The_Dojang) 8. Translation request (TEG TEG) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 08:55:55 -0600 From: "Dennis McHenry" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Pronounce Name Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Bert, One of my daughters had a Korean teacher who's name was "Lim". I remember seeing her name spelt, and in Hangul looked like "im" to me. So that follows along with what you are saying. Mac From: "Bert Edens" Greetings, all... From my rudimentary knowledge of Korean, having only studied it for 5 years, I would like to add something to this... The Korean characters for Yi I's first and last name are the same (but the Chinese is different, of course). The Koreans I have talked to have pronounced it "Ee Ee". The "Yi" (and Lee and Rhee, etc.) is just a romanized way of spelling the names... Just a thought... **bows** - Bert Edens, II Dan TKD --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Kay Ethier at Above and Beyond Learning" To: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:10:51 -0500 Organization: Above and Beyond Language Learning Inc. Subject: [The_Dojang] Looking for San Jose, CA do jang Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello: Some colleagues and I are getting together at a business conference in San Jose in February. While we all study different martial arts, we are wanting to get together one evening and have a class or workout together. Does anyone know of a do jang in San Jose -- if possible close to the Doubletree San Jose -- that might be willing to let us come in as guests one evening and either lead us in a class or give us some time to workout. Obviously we'd be willing to sign any waivers, etc. and pay a use fee as appropriate. Thank you in advance, Kay 7th gup, Tang Soo Do --__--__-- Message: 3 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:09:26 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: pronounce name Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Regarding how to pronounce Yi My wife's name is Yi-saeng, so I have a little insight into this. :-) In Korean Yi is written the same as Lee it is the circle with the straight line beside it. (making it simple for those that don't know the names of the Korean characters) When Romanized to English, some people use Lee and others Yi especially for last names. Both are pronounced "ee" Just the long e sound. Therefore, my wife's name Yi-saeng is pronuced long e and then almost like "sang" as in she sang a song. My Hapkido instuctor Lee Jun-kyu is also pronounced long e for his last name, as is Yi Sun-shin the famous Korean admiral. Admiral Yi is pronounced "ee" the long e sound. I hope this helps a bit, Alain www.burrese.com For Your Safety - For Your Success www.aikiproductions.com Your Way to the Martial Arts ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Michael" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Looking for San Jose, CA do jang Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:07:27 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I believe there's an ITF school in that area owned by Mr. Jason Morris. Go to www.usitf.com and look under schools/links for his contact info. v/r Michael Munyon www.munyondojang.com -----Original Message----- From: Kay Ethier at Above and Beyond Learning [mailto:sales@aboveandbeyondlearning.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:11 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Looking for San Jose, CA do jang Hello: Some colleagues and I are getting together at a business conference in San Jose in February. While we all study different martial arts, we are wanting to get together one evening and have a class or workout together. Does anyone know of a do jang in San Jose -- if possible close to the Doubletree San Jose -- that might be willing to let us come in as guests one evening and either lead us in a class or give us some time to workout. Obviously we'd be willing to sign any waivers, etc. and pay a use fee as appropriate. Thank you in advance, Kay 7th gup, Tang Soo Do _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: pronounce name Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:23:22 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Also, you can almost tell when a family immigrated to the US by the way they romanize their last name. Prior to 1945, Rhee was the most common Romanization. Post 1945 up into the late '70s or '80s (I'm not exactly sure on the dates for the transition) Lee was the most common Romanization. Nowdays, Yi is the most common Romanization. Same with Choi and Choe. Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aburrese@aol.com Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: pronounce name Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:09:26 -0500 Regarding how to pronounce Yi My wife's name is Yi-saeng, so I have a little insight into this. :-) In Korean Yi is written the same as Lee it is the circle with the straight line beside it. (making it simple for those that don't know the names of the Korean characters) When Romanized to English, some people use Lee and others Yi especially for last names. Both are pronounced "ee" Just the long e sound. Therefore, my wife's name Yi-saeng is pronuced long e and then almost like "sang" as in she sang a song. My Hapkido instuctor Lee Jun-kyu is also pronounced long e for his last name, as is Yi Sun-shin the famous Korean admiral. Admiral Yi is pronounced "ee" the long e sound. I hope this helps a bit, Alain www.burrese.com For Your Safety - For Your Success www.aikiproductions.com Your Way to the Martial Arts ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:04:23 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] History made at Doha Asian Games Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net History Made in Taekwondo at Doha Asian Games 14 Dec 2006 History has been made in the taekwondo competition at the 15th Asian Games in Doha, Qatar. A total of 17 countries won at least one medal out of 64 up for grabs in the four-day taekwondo competition, compared with seven countries at the 2002 Busan Asian Games and eight at the 1998 Bangkok Asiad. The hike in the number of medal-winning countries reflects the universality of taekwondo. On the opening day of the four-day taekwondo competitions on Dec. 7, 2006, China clinched its first Asiad gold medal in the sport of taekwondo as Chinese Wu Jingyu defeated Chinese Taipei's Yang Shu Chun 2-1 in the women's 47kg final match. "All the athletes are at the same level. It's tough and difficult, but I am happy that I won the gold," said Wu after the competition. "I feel very honored and excited for bringing China the first gold in this event." Jordan's Al Bakhit Mohammad earned his country the first ever Asiad gold medal when he defeated Thailand's Somswang Vasavat 1-0 in the men's 54kg final on Dec. 7. "I have never imagined I was the one to change the history. It is a great honor for me and I still feel dizzy because of the excitement," Al Bakhit said. Lee Young-yeoul of Korea won the gold medal in the men's 72kg final on the opening day as he beat Wang Hao of China 7-0. In a semifinal match in the same category, Lee brushed aside a stiff challenge Iran's Hadi Sae Bonehkohal, the gold medalist at the 2004 Athens Olympic Games. Iran's Hadi, 30, had to settle for the bronze medal in the division. His younger sister, Sae Bonehkohal Mahroz, also earned her country the bronze medal in the women's 72kg category as the 22-year old Mahroz was beaten 1-2 by Jordan's Kutkut Alaa in a semifinal match. Korea reaffirmed its supremacy in the sport of taekwondo at the Doha Asiad, as it grabbed nine gold medals, one silver and one bronze. Korea, thus, clinched the overall men's and women's titles for the fifth consecutive Asiad. Taekwonod was an official sport for the first time at the 1986 Seoul Asian Games. In terms of the overall medal tally, China ranked second with three gold medals, all in the women's categories, one silver and two bronzes. Iran came next with one gold, two silvers and five bronzes. Chinese Taipei won one gold medal, two silvers and four bronzes, while Qatar won one gold medal and one bronze. Thailand clinched three silvers and two bronzes, followed by the Philippines and Vietnam with two silvers and three bronzes each. Uzbekistan won one silver. Kazakhstan and Nepal each won three bronzes, while Afghanistan, Indonesia, Tajikistan, Lebanon and Bahrain grabbed one bronze medal each. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:56:26 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] On-Line Banking System Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Introducing WTF On-Line Banking System December 14, 2006 To: Presidents, MNAs WTF International Referees RE: WTF On-Line Banking System Dear Sirs/Madams: In our endeavors to enhance the operations and transparency of the WTF, we have created a new On-Line Banking System for the collection of annual dues from International Referees and Member National Associations of the World Taekwondo Federation. This WTF On-Line Banking System will be effective from January 1, 2007. This new credit card / debit card payment system allows prompt confirmation of payment and issuance of receipts, and reduces any errors or discrepancies arising from the current system of receiving payment from different methods, such as cash or check. We would appreciate if all parties could cooperate and pay their annual dues via WTF On-Line Banking System. This would help guarantee the minimization of mistakes from all parties. If you have any question regarding the new payment system, please do not hesitate to contact the General Affairs Division via e-mail to general4wtf@unitel.co.kr or Refereeing Division via e-mail to referee4wtf@unitel.co.kr. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Sincerely yours, WTF Secretariat --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "TEG TEG" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:14:54 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Translation request Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings. I am looking for a good translation for Muye Dobo Tongji. I am aware of the book by Yi Duk-Moo, Park Je-Ga and Sang H. Kim, but it has been suggested there may be better translated versions available. Does anyone have any suggestions, please? Thank you. Tom Gibbs _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest