Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:58:27 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #501 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Chuck's WCL (Martial Way) 2. Re: RE: Chuck's WCL (Jye nigma) 3. Re: RE: Chuck's WCL (Joseph Cheavens) 4. Re: RE: Chuck's WCL (Jye nigma) 5. Combat Hapkido youtube (michael tomlinson) (Don Kirsch) 6. Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting (The_Dojang) 7. Another TKD instructor goes down - South Daytona, Fl. (Tom) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Martial Way" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:11:13 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net A bunch of us went to watch them live and had a blast. The competition is fast and they get penalized if they stall which made for even better action. A few bugs here and there for a new show but nothing that isn't going to get worked out over the process. I think it is definitely worth checking out and should be here to stay. They are coming back to Austin in January. Hope this helps, Guro Larry St. Clair The New and Improved Martial Way Academy www.kali-austin.com 512-821-3637 --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:17:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I read the whole site and so far the only thing I don't care for is that there is no takedowns or throwing and it's basically kickboxing. I'd like to see something that pits style vs style with take downs and throws. Jye Martial Way wrote: A bunch of us went to watch them live and had a blast. The competition is fast and they get penalized if they stall which made for even better action. A few bugs here and there for a new show but nothing that isn't going to get worked out over the process. I think it is definitely worth checking out and should be here to stay. They are coming back to Austin in January. Hope this helps, Guro Larry St. Clair The New and Improved Martial Way Academy www.kali-austin.com 512-821-3637 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:10:03 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In other words, UFC and Pride? Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jye nigma Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:17:59 -0800 (PST) I read the whole site and so far the only thing I don't care for is that there is no takedowns or throwing and it's basically kickboxing. I'd like to see something that pits style vs style with take downs and throws. Jye Martial Way wrote: A bunch of us went to watch them live and had a blast. The competition is fast and they get penalized if they stall which made for even better action. A few bugs here and there for a new show but nothing that isn't going to get worked out over the process. I think it is definitely worth checking out and should be here to stay. They are coming back to Austin in January. Hope this helps, Guro Larry St. Clair The New and Improved Martial Way Academy www.kali-austin.com 512-821-3637 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place!  MSN Shopping Sales & Deals --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:14:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net No more like how the sabaki challenge was. Jye Joseph Cheavens wrote: In other words, UFC and Pride? Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jye nigma Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:17:59 -0800 (PST) I read the whole site and so far the only thing I don't care for is that there is no takedowns or throwing and it's basically kickboxing. I'd like to see something that pits style vs style with take downs and throws. Jye Martial Way wrote: A bunch of us went to watch them live and had a blast. The competition is fast and they get penalized if they stall which made for even better action. A few bugs here and there for a new show but nothing that isn't going to get worked out over the process. I think it is definitely worth checking out and should be here to stay. They are coming back to Austin in January. Hope this helps, Guro Larry St. Clair The New and Improved Martial Way Academy www.kali-austin.com 512-821-3637 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales & Deals _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:06:42 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Combat Hapkido youtube (michael tomlinson) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Concerning the tread on the "Combat HapKiDo" video clip I don't think I could critique it any better than Jere Hilland or Michael Tomlinson. However, I just wish it would have been a nun doing the techniques so we could hear how Michael really feels about it...(insert smiley face here). Regards, Don Kirsch --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:14:48 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Martial Arts Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting December 19, 2006 VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. -- One of two dozen men arrested in an undercover sex predator sting is a martial arts teacher in Volusia County. Last week's sting at a beach house in Flagler County netted 21 arrests, including William Roach, a teacher at Red Tiger Tae Kwon Do in South Daytona. Police said the men were trying to meet children for sex. The sting was conducted by Flagler Beach police and the State Attorney's Office. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:17:00 -0500 From: Tom To: "the_dojang@martialartsresource.net" Subject: [The_Dojang] Another TKD instructor goes down - South Daytona, Fl. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net December 19, 2006 Police: Sex sting suspect teaches children martial arts By KENYA WOODARD Staff Writer One of the three local men arrested in the Flagler Beach sex sting filmed by "Dateline NBC" teaches children tae kwon do at a South Daytona martial arts school, police said. That man, William Roach, 31, believed his female decoy "Amber" was only 13 years old, investigators said. But that didn't stop the South Daytona man from sending "Amber" adult videos and sexually explicit photos of himself and traveling to Flagler Beach on Dec. 8 to meet her, they said. Roach is one of 21 men arrested on computer pornography and attempted lewd and lascivious behavior charges as part of a four-day online sex sting conducted by the Flagler Beach Police Department and set up by Perverted Justice, an online watchdog group. "Dateline NBC" filmed the arrests of the 21 men as part of its "To Catch a Predator" series. Also arrested were Anthony Sorrentino, 39, of Bunnell and Samuel Harrison, 32, of Flagler Beach. All of the men are free on bail. According to the Florida Department of State Web site, Roach is listed as manager of Red Tiger Taekwondo in South Daytona. On the business' Web site, Roach is named as a black belt instructor. Calls to the business Monday found the telephone number has been temporarily disconnected. When reached at home, Roach declined comment. The Flagler Beach incident reports released Monday included parts of the dialogue from the men's alleged online chats with Perverted Justice volunteers posing as minors. Police said Roach engaged in a sexually explicit conversation with "Amber" that produced 31 pages of dialogue. After initiating contact with "Amber," Roach tells her he is 19 and sends her sexually explicit pictures of himself, the report states. Roach asks "Amber" if he can take pictures of her. After his arrest, a laptop computer and two digital cameras were found in Roach's vehicle, the report said. Roach told police that his chat with "Amber" was "just fantasy" and that he talks online "frequently" and "usually" sends sexually explicit photos of himself, the report states. According to the reports, both Sorrentino and Harrison planned to meet with a 14-year-old male decoy named "Derek." Under the guise of the screen name Italianlover37, Sorrentino initiated a chat with "Derek" on Dec. 8, the report states. Sorrentino told police he was so "turned on" by his conversation with the decoy that he drove from his home in Bunnell to the house in the 1200 block of A1A in Flagler Beach, where the sting was set up, in "approximately fifteen minutes," the report states. In his chat with "Derek," Harrison refers to the decoy as "jailbait." Experts said some sex offenders seek out their victims online because the Internet offers them anonymity. University of Florida criminology professor Ron Akers said he's read studies about child procurement rings who will fly any place in the world if they can get a child. "Before they did it by telephone, by driving their car around, or by photographs and videos," Akers said. "The use of (the Internet) just makes it more effective and efficient to do." Jill Levenson, an associate professor at Lynn University in Boca Raton and an expert on sex offenders, said the offenders believe because they aren't touching their victims there's nothing wrong. Levenson said older sex offenders may have pedophile tendencies and prior arrests. Younger offenders may be socially immature adults who feel more comfortable with minors, she said. Still, some offenders -- no matter the age -- are sex addicts who target both adults and children, she said. According to court records, the sting wasn't Roach's first brush with the law. Two complaints were filed against Roach in March accusing him of exposing himself in December 2005. The cases were closed without going to trial. Roach also was charged with aggravated battery in 1994. More recently, Roach and his company goshoppingmall.com Inc. were named defendants in a lawsuit. Basyle Tchividjian, an attorney for the plaintiff, said Monday his client filed the suit in February after Roach exposed himself to her and pulled her shirt to expose her breasts. The case is pending, court records show. /kenya.woodard/@news-jrnl.com /-- Staff Writer Janette Neuwahl contributed to this report./ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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