Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:58:30 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 13 #502 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Chuck's WCL (J. Thomas Howard) 2. RE: Combat Hapkido youtube (michael tomlinson) (michael tomlinson) 3. RE: Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting (michael tomlinson) 4. Child sex stings (Luther Veuleman) 5. RE: Child sex stings (michael tomlinson) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "J. Thomas Howard" To: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:25:45 -0600 Organization: Nebraska Hapkido Association Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Chuck's WCL Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jye wrote: > I read the whole site and so far the only thing I don't care for is > that there is no takedowns or throwing and it's basically kickboxing. > I'd like to see something that pits style vs style with take downs and > throws. Well, there is the IFL. http://www.ifl.tv Same idea as the WCL, but with MMA instead of kickboxing. Some good names there for team coaches, too. Of course, if you don't want groundwork in the mix (which you don't seem to, since you said no to Pride and UFC), you'll have to go elsewhere. The Sabaki Challenge is a fun match to watch, too. Thomas H. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Combat Hapkido youtube (michael tomlinson) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:48:26 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hey I still have the taste of my Asics Gel Cummulus in my mouth over that one...I'm just glad I hadn't strolled in my backyard that day around my dog before the post......LOL....if I ever get the chance to meet Pat I'm gonna give her one good free shot across my skull...it will probably make us both feel better....as for the video's....why do people think that learning Hapkido like eating an appetizer at Bennigan's is the same as having a 7 course meal??? Better yet...why do they eat a Hapkido appetizer and then film, write, and create a new style of cooking when all they did was order some fried cheese Hapkido poppers???? It friggin baffles my mind sometimes... Michael Tomlinson >From: "Don Kirsch" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: "the_dojang" >Subject: [The_Dojang] Combat Hapkido youtube (michael tomlinson) >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 19:06:42 -0600 > >Concerning the tread on the "Combat HapKiDo" video clip I don't think I >could >critique it any better than Jere Hilland or Michael Tomlinson. However, I >just >wish it would have been a nun doing the techniques so we could hear how >Michael really feels about it...(insert smiley face here). >Regards, Don Kirsch >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series.  Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:02:42 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Wow you guys are fast on here...yep this stuff happened right down the road from where I live and work....I don't know anyone involved from that school...BUT...a few years ago they had an article about their "Hapkido" program in the paper with a big colored photo of the Master doing a joint lock....I showed the photo to my wife who doesn't even do Hapkido but has the displeasure of being around me 24/7...I held the photo up and ask her what she thought about the joint lock...her exact words were..."where's the pain?"......it was a ridiculous example of a joint lock learned andl or done wrong to the point of not even coming close to the actual technique I learned from GM Hal Whalen, and Doju Nim Ji Han Jae, and it was a basic joint lock from around blue belt level....that was the last I ever thought about this dojang.... the ironic thing about this story is that the fellow mentioned in the sting was caught by the folks filming the Dateline series....SO...eventually you all will be able to see it on TV...also during that sting...which is really big in the newspapers down here...a policeman from Alabama had driven all that way thinking he was meeting a 13 year old girl...he alledgedly pulled up in front of the house and then turned around to leave after feeling something wasn't right....they caught him down the street and pulled him out of his car....in the cab of the car they found 4 guns including an M4....duct tape, a rope, and a chain saw!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME.... they were really happy about hooking that guy up.....the world is truly crazier and more dangerous then a lot of people will let themselves believe... Michael Tomlinson >From: The_Dojang >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:14:48 -0800 > >Martial Arts Teacher Arrested In Sex Predator Sting >December 19, 2006 > >VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. -- One of two dozen men arrested in an undercover >sex predator sting is a martial arts teacher in Volusia County. > >Last week's sting at a beach house in Flagler County netted 21 >arrests, including William Roach, a teacher at Red Tiger Tae Kwon Do >in South Daytona. > >Police said the men were trying to meet children for sex. > >The sting was conducted by Flagler Beach police and the State Attorney's >Office. >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Child sex stings Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net DIgest, Those kiddy sex stings are all over the place now. My wife and I were really good friends with a couple, I actually worked with the guy in retail for about 2 and a half years. He had completed 110 hours at ETBU in East Texas towards seminary school, and was a youth minister at one point at a large church here in Shreveport. This couple played cards with us at least once a week, sometimes we'd go eat, see movies, etc. He was my replacement when I put in my two weeks last month to start RN school, but the night before Thanksgiving, I got the call that he'd been arrested by an online task force here in north Louisiana for online solicitation of a minor. He got to spend thanksgiving in jail, and destroyed his career and marriage, all for what he thought was a 13 year old who's parents were out of town. Its sad, and I always tell people you never get caught the first time you do something wrong, which I'm sure this wasn't his first time. Of course my wife and I tried to be a leaning post for his wife, but she's so messed up now its a lost cause. We lost what we thought were our best married-friends, but she lost alot more. Ugh. Charlie V http://www.tsdofla.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Child sex stings Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:31:10 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Unreal huh...you never know who people are sometimes....one of my long time Hapkido students used to be the lead detective for the sex crimes division in this part of Florida (he is now a homicide investigator for the State Attorney) and he would tell me that if you dealt with the cases he saw then everyone would be keeping an eye on who their neighbors and friends were....his department actually saw 15 to 25 sex cases a month!! Michael Tomlinson >From: Luther Veuleman >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Child sex stings >Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:47:52 -0800 (PST) > >DIgest, > > Those kiddy sex stings are all over the place now. My wife and I were >really good friends with a couple, I actually worked with the guy in retail >for about 2 and a half years. He had completed 110 hours at ETBU in East >Texas towards seminary school, and was a youth minister at one point at a >large church here in Shreveport. This couple played cards with us at least >once a week, sometimes we'd go eat, see movies, etc. He was my replacement >when I put in my two weeks last month to start RN school, but the night >before Thanksgiving, I got the call that he'd been arrested by an online >task force here in north Louisiana for online solicitation of a minor. He >got to spend thanksgiving in jail, and destroyed his career and marriage, >all for what he thought was a 13 year old who's parents were out of town. > > Its sad, and I always tell people you never get caught the first time >you do something wrong, which I'm sure this wasn't his first time. Of >course my wife and I tried to be a leaning post for his wife, but she's so >messed up now its a lost cause. We lost what we thought were our best >married-friends, but she lost alot more. > > Ugh. > > Charlie V > http://www.tsdofla.com >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2006: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! 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