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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Taekwondo in Cumming or Buford GA (Chuck Manly) 2. RE: Endurance vs. Skills (Stovall, Craig) 3. Subject: [The_Dojang] Compliment and referal (Sharon Marks) 4. Sights on Gold (The_Dojang) 5. Re: Subject: [The_Dojang] Compliment and referal (Chip Mautz) 6. Re: skill and endurance (aburrese@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 05:39:54 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Manly To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Taekwondo in Cumming or Buford GA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thank you all (especially Master Richards) for your help and guidance in selecting a new school. _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Endurance vs. Skills Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:21:30 -0600 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> I concur with Peter...he nailed it. The only thing I would take issue with is the Dan Tien breathing. IMHO, this would only be true if the practice of belly breathing elicited the "relaxation response", and the practitioner were able to transfer this "skill of relaxation" over to performing on the mat. So, there's something to think about. It's not necessarily true that skill and endurance are two separate things. I believe endurance has a skill component as opposed to just being a physiological adaptation (higher VO2 max, lactid acid tolerance, etc). >From an MMA perspective, I can vouch for the fact that higher skill level "increases" endurance because I no longer have to rely so much on strength and power...especially during grappling. The grappling is less taxing for me because I know how to relax (a skill), I know how to move my body more efficiently (a skill), and I know how to manipulate my opponent without just using raw strength (a skill). Higher endurance allows what skills the practitioner has to "stick around" longer since motor skills go out the window when fatigue sets in (Lombardi's famous quote applies). The opposite is also true in that higher skills generally "conserves" what endurance the practitioner has since skill often leads to less reliance and use of raw athletic qualities (strength, explosiveness, power). It's a two way street since the boundary between them is only in your mind. There is no "skill"...there is no "endurance"...there is only "you". Get it? And that's my zen moment for the day. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:20:49 -0500 From: Sharon Marks To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Subject: [The_Dojang] Compliment and referal Cc: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have been a student of MC's for just over 4 yrs now. Rudy... you are so right, MC's recomendation of others before himself speak volumes about his character (no I didn't say you are a character, but you are LOL). Chuck... If the 30 min drive isn't too much, please join us for a class. I think you will be hooked. Moja Kwan is a great DoJang, I wouldn't train anywhere else (although I do jokingly threaten to jump ship and drive to Bufford to train with Master Clarke) Sharon --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:25:44 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sights on Gold Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Taekwondo Champion Has Sights on Gold 05 Jan 2007 Daehan Sports Stadium is on the third floor of a modest building located in the Central Market in Incheon. This stadium may look like any ordinary countryside stadium, but this is where Korea's best female Taekwondo fighter trains. Pictures of award ceremonies and trophies that fill the room attest to this. At 181cm and 70kg, she eclipses even men- Ahn Sae-bom, 17, a junior at Ganghwa Girls High School, has the right measurements at 181cm and 70kg. She is poised to win gold at the 2009 Summer Olympics in Beijing. "Usually female fighters have one or two techniques only, and rely heavily on timing. Se-bom has strength and basic technique," says Yoo Byung-gwan, Taekwondo professor at Yongin University. "She uses different kick moves to fight different opponents. I am sure she will become a world Taekwondo star, if she trains consistently. Ahn, despite the prejudices one can have about strong fighters, gives off a soft impression. "I started the sport when I was in first grade. It just seemed fun and cool back then. In my third year of middle school, after seeing Moon Dae-sung compete at the Olympics in Athens, I decided to give up everything for this sport." "She looks soft from the outside, but she has great will. If I teach her one technique, she figures two techniques out by herself," said Coach Yeom Gwan-woo, who coached her since elementary school. After graduating from middle school, she started training for an hour every morning, two hours and a half after coming home from school, and another hour in the evening. She cannot look braver as she practices kicking techniques, but she has had her share of hardships. "The judge's scorekeeping can drive you nuts. There are times when I cannot get a single point, even after trying every technique in my book." Biased scorekeeping dealt many blows to the young fighter. "Fighters from the countryside have many disadvantages. I tell my fighters that unless they outperform their opponents by a big margin, the judges will treat them unfairly and give more points for the opponents," Couch Yeom said. "This is why my fighters have such great technical ability." An Olympic gold contender- Ahn has another set of worries. Many universities and company teams are trying to scout Ahn, who will become a senior high school student this March. They are trying to win her parents over with scholarships under the condition that she wins medals at international events. "I want to hug Coach Yeom and my parents with a gold medal around my neck," says Ahn. Her immediate goal is to win at the national finals in February, and win a gold medal in the world championship. It will be an important year for the 17-year-old. Story from the Dong-A Ilbo, Jan. 5, 2006 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:09:10 -0500 From: "Chip Mautz" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: Subject: [The_Dojang] Compliment and referal Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net What is interesting is that I joined this mailing list to refresh myself on TKD/TSD knowledge (it's been a while - I've been an on again/off again dabbler in Korean arts since a kid, among other martial arts.). I've followed the TKD/TSD Sugar Hill thread as a lurker on the list, as it directly applied to my resurgence in the study of a TMA. Strangely enough, I've also been corresponding w/ Master Joe Clarke offline, as I'm in Dacula, GA (Hamilton Mill area), and his studio is very close to my home (15min drive max). I have been debating between TSD and other arts (Jiu Jitsu, Muy Thai, Japanese karate, Kung Fu, etc.) for awhile, and keep coming back to TSD/TKD style MA for me. It is very refreshing to see people so humbly referring each other, teaching for the love of the art instead of money, etc. Very rare these days. I'm actually tring to see if I can swing coming to watch the class at Master Clarkes studio on Saturday! Master Clarke told me both schools will be there - how neat is that! Coincidence, I think not! Some things happen for a reason.. Chip Mautz Dacula, Ga White belt for life... On 1/5/07, Sharon Marks wrote: > I have been a student of MC's for just over 4 yrs now. > Rudy... you are so right, MC's recomendation of others before himself speak volumes about his character (no I didn't say you are a character, but you are LOL). > Chuck... If the 30 min drive isn't too much, please join us for a class. I think you will be hooked. Moja Kwan is a great DoJang, I wouldn't train anywhere else (although I do jokingly threaten to jump ship and drive to Bufford to train with Master Clarke) > -- Do or Do Not - there is no Try - Yoda --__--__-- Message: 6 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:37:24 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: skill and endurance Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Recently I've seen some students practice on endurance and some on skillful level. My question is, how does endurance affect skills or vice versa? My respects, Clint *************************** They with other things such as strength are part of the whole. Skill training improves skill. Strength training improves strength. Endurance training improved endurance. They are all different and have their place. Regarding the two you mentioned. When a person's endurance starts to wane, and he or she is getting tired, skill levels tend to decrease. Therefore, the better your endurance, more than likely the longer you will keep your skill level up. Repetitive skill training, such as doing forms over and over can help increase endurance. However, because as you get tired your skill may drop and techniques might not be performed as precise as they should be, I recommend important skill building and learning be done first before you are tired. If you are tired from endurance or strength training, learning and building new skill levels may be hindered. And here I am talking skill as in correct technique. Overall, a good program will include aerobic training to include endurance training, strength training, flexibility training and technical skill training which for a martial artists is our techniques, etc. for our specific art. Yours in Training, Alain www.burrese.com www.burrese.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest