Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:58:27 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #8 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. In Neh (George Peters) 2. Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts (sidtkd@aol.com) 3. Re: Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts (Jye nigma) 4. Re: Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts (Ray) 5. Re: Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts (James O'Connor) 6. Re: Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts (WTSDA Bruce) 7. Women, women everywhere (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "George Peters" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:51:45 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] In Neh Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Good Mr. Stovall, I have always been taught that skills and endurance increase with experience. Endurance tests for beginners can be passed by almost anyone and the skills are quite basic(as one would expect). To the contrary, higher rank endurance and skill tests are quite rigorous. Looking at these on a graph, after many years of working with students, I would expect to see nearly the same slope. At least, that is how the program I work with is, and most traditional programs should be. Respectfully, George _________________________________________________________________ >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: sidtkd@aol.com Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:50:56 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Maybe I'm splitting a hair...but the dan tien is two inches below the belly button. The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when sparring. The dan tien is useful in meditation but I can't imagine breathing from below my belly button when air comes from my lungs. Teaching martial arts is a totally different thing from performing martial arts. I've seen 8th dans that couldn't teach simple things. It was a 3rd dan that demonstrated how to pivot his ankle to make an effective spinning heel kick. THAT was teaching! Sid --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It's an easy exercise to breath from the dan tien. Singers use the same type of breathing, basically breathing from the diaphram(sp?) Jye sidtkd@aol.com wrote: Maybe I'm splitting a hair...but the dan tien is two inches below the belly button. The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when sparring. The dan tien is useful in meditation but I can't imagine breathing from below my belly button when air comes from my lungs. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:31:01 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Maybe I'm splitting a hair...but the dan tien is two inches below the belly > button. The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when > sparring. The dan tien is useful in meditation but I can't imagine breathing from > below my belly button when air comes from my lungs. Another term for it is diaphragm breathing. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: James O'Connor Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:32:52 -0700 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On Jan 7, 2007, at 9:31 AM, Ray wrote: >> Maybe I'm splitting a hair...but the dan tien is two inches below >> the belly >> button. The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when >> sparring. The dan tien is useful in meditation but I can't >> imagine breathing from >> below my belly button when air comes from my lungs. > > Another term for it is diaphragm breathing. But I thought the diaphragm was below the lungs, quite a bit above the belly button. Take care, Jay --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "WTSDA Bruce" To: Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:45:56 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net While trying to give Clint some input on his question "Recently I've seen some students practice on endurance and some on skillful level. My question is, how does endurance affect skills or > vice versa? My respects, Clint" the topic of breathing crept in. This type of breathing has many names, but the primary reason for this type of breathing is to lower heart rate and increase cognitive abilities. It can be accomplished during meditation, while sparring, or in just about any other stressful occurrence. If you can think clearly, you can perform with more focus. Check out Lt Dave Grossman's book "On Combat" page 320 refers to Tactical Breathing. This type of breathing has been used in the military for many years, to reduce the heart rate for snipers. Tan Jun Ho Hup, tactical breathing, belly breathing, it all means one thing, better focus on the skill you are trying to perform. Take care, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts > Maybe I'm splitting a hair...but the dan tien is two inches below the > belly > button. The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when > sparring. The dan tien is useful in meditation but I can't imagine > breathing from > below my belly button when air comes from my lungs. > > Teaching martial arts is a totally different thing from performing martial > arts. I've seen 8th dans that couldn't teach simple things. It was a 3rd > dan > that demonstrated how to pivot his ankle to make an effective spinning > heel > kick. THAT was teaching! > > Sid > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:10:18 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Women, women everywhere Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Women don't pull their punches Singapore Two weeks ago, in our Singapore at Large column that profiles the Singapore sports scene with a national or grassroots perspective, we reported on the trend of more women running in races and marathons. Today, ASHIKIN HASHIM reports that more women are also now taking up martial arts and kick-boxing. January 08, 2007 THE verdict is out. More women these days want to get their kicks in, and their punches too. They may start out kick-boxing in fitness gymnasiums to get the feel of a fighter's stance and technique. Or they may plunge straight into martial art forms that require contact sparring with fellow females, like taekwondo and silat. New statistics show that Singapore women are starting to make their presence known in these previously male-dominated sports. At the popular Planet Fitness chain, women make up about 90 per cent of kick-boxing classes. In contrast, women made up only 60 per cent of such classes two years ago. At the J H Kim Taekwondo Institute, set up in Singapore three years ago, almost half of their 800 taekwondo members are now women. This, as opposed to only a quarter, three years ago. As for silat, Rafeah Rashid, the women's national coach with the Singapore Silat Federation, told The New Paper the number of women in the national team was 25 in 2001. Since last year, this figure has tripled to about 70. Indeed, Singapore women are starting to challenge the men in these traditionally male-dominated sports. KICK-BOXING A GOOD START Lena Lim, 35, has been attending Planet Fitness' kick-boxing programme for the past year. 'Kick-boxing allows you to vent your frustrations through kicks and punches. 'It makes you more agile and gives you a spring in your step when you walk,' said the avid cyclist and runner. Her kick-boxing instructor, Abdul Ghani Ismail, 32, has been teaching the sport for eight years. He has noticed the a surge in the numbers of women taking it up. 'Kick-boxing has become more popular among women now. 'Besides being a great fat-burning activity, it helps you improve your coordination, and works on your muscles,' said Ghani. MORE WOMEN BOXING For women though, the feedback is that kick-boxing seems to be a good introduction to other forms of traditional boxing or martial arts. Syed Abdul Kadir, 58, is Singapore's only boxing bronze medallist at the Commonwealth Games, a feat achieved in 1974. The founder of Kadir's Boxing School has been boxing since the tender age of nine. He was asked if there is a trend of more women taking up boxing itself now. 'I definitely see a rising trend in women taking part in boxing activities,' he said. 'Many people think it's easy, but it's really tough. Boxing involves more of the hands, but kick-boxing is a good start for women.' He added: 'I guess Singapore women these days also want to show they're capable of doing what men can do, especially when it comes to these kind of sports.' Apart from releasing their frustrations, losing weight is also a common motivating factor for women to pick up such sports. So Beyond Xtreme, a fitness company, developed a special programme targeted at women looking to lose weight. No slim wraps or agonising diets here. Instead, they use kick-boxing to help women trim down. The programme's founder Jason Lim said: 'We used to have women as young as 18, and as old as 40, coming in. 'Now, we've got 16-year-olds and even a 60-year-old,' he remarked. MORE WOMEN IN TAEKWONDO Taekwondo is also seeing more women sign up for classes. J H Kim Taekwando Institute has two outlets in Bugis and Katong. One of the school's oldest members, Audrey Chan, 45, is a red-belt exponent. She said: 'Initially, when I started out, there were very few women involved in the sport. But there's a sense of strength and elegance in taekwondo and it makes us women feel empowered.' Her younger counterpart, Indonesian student Nonny Florentine, echoed similar sentiments. 'I've been doing taekwondo for four years now. 'A friend introduced it to me and I definitely think women should take it up, not just for sporting and fitness reasons, but also to help protect themselves.' Nonny, 16, is the youngest member in the school's adult classes. Nurhafiza Saim, 20, recently took up taekwondo after having practised kick-boxing initially. She said: 'Taekwondo is a fun way for the women to keep healthy especially for those who're still in school.' The school's principal - Santos Rivas - has been teaching the sport for over 15 years. He was a former trainer with the Singapore national taekwondo team. 'After 2000, more women began to join our classes. 'It's a good thing because it allows them to keep fit and most importantly, defend themselves,' said the 32-year-old. With martial arts and kick-boxing seeing considerable women participation figures this year alone, maybe it's time to kick that couch potato in you too. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest