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Re: Nose versus mouth breathin (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:32:12 -0500 From: sidtkd@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Nose breathing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Let's not forget that breathing through the nose prevents hyperventilation and prevents much of the shock one feels when being hit in the sternum. Sid ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:05:03 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Goodbye Kwan Jang Nim Kim Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net It is with profound sorrow that I heard last evening from Master Saul Kim that his father and my instructor Jae Joon Kim, passed away. To me, GM Kim was a noble and knowledgeable man and I was proud to have him as my instructor. My thoughts and sorrow go out to his family and students. Tang Soo Do will not be the same... Dana _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:15:56 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF Secretary General Resigns Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net WTF Secretary General Resigns; WTF to Embark on Sweeping Internal Reforms 10 Jan 2007 WTF President Chungwon Choue accepted the resignation of WTF Secretary General Dong-hoo Moon on Jan. 8, 2007, signaling the launch of drastic administrative reforms within the WTF Secretariat. President Choue said he will name a new secretary general and carry out a far-reaching personnel reshuffle this month, while introducing a package of reforms to the Secretariat that include an annual salary system on a contractual basis and a quarterly performance evaluation system for WTF staff. President Choue also said that he will gradually increase the number of non-Koreans working for the WTF Secretariat as part of his efforts to remake the WTF into a truly global sports federation. Dr. Choue also accepted the resignation of Mr. Yoon-taek Lim, deputy secretary general for the Sport Division and Refereeing Division, and Mr. Sean Kim, deputy secretary general for marketing and public relations. Also offering to resign to give President Choue wider latitude in implementing internal reforms was Mr. Manseek Choe, deputy secretary general for the General Affairs Division and the Planning and Finance Division. However, WTF President Choue asked him to stay to assist the incoming secretary general in carrying out major WTF projects, including the World Taekwondo Championships scheduled for May in Beijing. During a press conference held at the WTF headquarters on Jan. 10, President Choue said that he would carry out the reform programs described in the WTF Reform Report without fail. "I will transform the WTF in a drastic way and put more internationally minded and professional staff into the secretariat to make the WTF a truly global sports federation, helping taekwondo retain its Olympic status for good." "Reform is the only way for the WTF to survive, and without change the WTF has no meaning to its existence. With sweeping organizational change, the WTF will soon embark on a new start," Dr. Choue said. On Dec. 26, 2006, WTF President Choue suspended all WTF personnel of their duties, including the WTF secretary general. The following week, on Jan. 2, Dr. Choue announced that WTF Secretary General Moon had submitted his resignation that morning. Mr. Moon said of his resignation, "I have decided to tender my resignation, bearing responsibility for not smoothly managing overall WTF matters." "I thought my resignation will help reform the WTF Secretariat." And Dr. Choue reiterated the importance of bringing sweeping reform to the WTF Secretariat by saying, "If taekwondo were not an Olympic sport, then it would be a different story. But as long as taekwondo is an Olympic sport, this style of management does not make sense. We have no choice but to do our best to be reborn as a truly international sport federation." --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:17:59 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Extensive Reforms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net World Taekwondo Federation Undergoes Extensive Reforms 10 Jan 2007 Choue Chung-won, the president of taekwondo's world governing body, said Wednesday he will complete full-fledged reform of the global body by this month, including recruiting foreign employees. "Reform is the only way for the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) to survive, and without change the WTF has no meaning to its existence. With sweeping organizational changes, the body will soon embark on a new start," Choue said in a news conference in the body's headquarters in Seoul. Choue ordered 20 employees in the WTF's Seoul office to halt their work on Dec. 26 to start the reforms from square one, the president explained. Shortly after the unprecedented measure, Secretary General Moon Dong-hoo tendered his resignation, and the president accepted his resignation on Monday, the WTF said in a press release. The WTF also accepted two of three deputy secretary generals, Lim Yoon-taek for the sports division and refereeing division and Kim Sean for marketing and public relations. "I will transform the WTF in a drastic way and put more internationally minded and professional staff into the secretariat to make the WTF a truly global sports federation, helping taekwondo retain its Olympic status for good," Choue said. "If taekwondo were not an Olympic sport, then it would be a different story. We have no choice but to do our best to be reborn as a truly international sports federation," he said. Choue, however, said that although a non-Korean could be appointed general secretary of the WTF, the feasibility of that was very low, and that the personnel reforms will be completed by late this month. The world governing body has also decided to hold an electronic protector test event again with the participation of manufacturers from Austria and Spain at Kyung Hee University in Seoul on Friday. The two manufacturers's products failed to pass an examination in March, while a Korean company, LaJUST, passed the test to be the officially recognized manufacturer. To avoid a global monopoly in electronic protector manufacturing, the WTF made the decision to allow the two manufacturers to take part in the test event on Friday, officials at the WTF said. If they fully meet standards set by the WTF, the executive board members will discuss recognizing the manufacturers again, the officials said. According to International Olympic Committee (IOC) rules, the WTF had to wrap up its preparations for the introduction of an electronic protect tester by last year. "If we hurry up the preparations we can see the electronic tester introduced in the upcoming World Championship in Beijing as early as May," Choue said. The WTF decided earlier to adopt an electronic protector to increase fairness in judging decisions in the martial art. Choue inherited the top post after former IOC member Kim Un-yong resigned from the post in 2004 before being elected as the president of the WTF with a four-year term in 2005. (Story from the Yonhap News on Jan. 10, 2007) --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Nose breathing To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net How does it prevent these things? Learning a lot, Jeremy. --- sidtkd@aol.com wrote: > Let's not forget that breathing through the nose prevents > hyperventilation and prevents much of the shock one feels when being hit > in the sternum. > > Sid > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:34:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Nose versus mouth breathing (was: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts) To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net How does breathing through the nose rather than the mouth accomplish these things? Thanks, Jeremy. --- Jye nigma wrote: > It allows you to use the maximum amount of oxygen for a longer period of > time. where you over time of practice, wont get fatigued as fast. You'll > also be able to hold your breathe for extended periods of time. > > Jye > > > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > I've heard this a lot but never understood why it's important to > breathe > through the nose. Could someone please elaborate? > > Thanks, > Jeremy Anderson. > > > --- sidtkd@aol.com wrote: > > The best we can do is avoid breathing through our mouths when > > sparring. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:37:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Nose versus mouth breathing. To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This is what I was thinking, too, but I've heard the other views so often and persistantly that I'd like to hear what their proponents have to say. Thanks, Jeremy. --- Damian Adams wrote: > The respnses for the nose versus mouth perspective are a little > perplexing. > > If you look at the different paths that the air can take, mouth versus > the > nose the only difference is that the air that is taken in via the nose > is > filtered by the nose hairs, and is moistened and warmed to a greater > degree > due to a longer transition down a mucus membrane tube. > I fail to see that the amount of oxygen that is transported through the > avioli > into the bloodstream is affected by the manner in which the air is > drawn. The > gas/fluid dynamics should remain the same for a given volume of air and > surface area in the lung. > If you subconsciously draw a greater volume or take longer to draw the > air > into your lungs when breathing through your nose then that is a > different > thing altogether. The mechanism would then be taking a longer and deeper > breath rather than just breathing through you nose. > > Regards > Damian. > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:42:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Nose versus mouth breathin To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've always been told that concussions were acceleration injuries: the skulls accelerates so fast that it overwhelms the natural shock absorption between it and the brain and the brain slams into the inside of the skull. How does having an open mouth put one at greater risk of concussion? Somebody else mentioned lining up the jaw. With what? Does it somehow make the jaw/skull into one "unit?" Allowing a more direct transference of energy to the brain? With the mouth closed, the jaw floats freely, allowing it to act as another segment of cushioning/shock absorption? Thanks, Jeremy. --- Ray wrote: > In breathing through the mouth, one will often have their mouth open. > That > can lead to a broken jaw and/or a concussion. > > Ray Terry > rterry@idiom.com > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:46:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Dan tien and "teaching" martial arts To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net --- Joseph Cheavens wrote: > Breathing through the nose has a number of benefits. The nasal passages > do a vastly better job than your mouth at filtering out inpurities in > the > air (think snot) Okay, that I knew. > warm the air to body temp, and moisten it, all of > which > make the air you breath more user friendly for your lungs. Does this allow for better oxygen transfer to the blood? > Another > benefit, from a sparring/fighting point of view is that if you are > breathing through your mouth, you are more likely to get KOed, as an > open > mouth lines the hinge of the jaw up better for the KO. Okay, I think Ray said the same thing. See my questions in my response to his post. Could you go into it a little more? Thanks, Jeremy. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 10 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:53:31 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] GM Han Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net With the passing of GM Han, we all have lost. A friend of mine who had a chance to meet GM Han a number of years ago had some great words regarding his passing. Becasue GM Han lived, trained, and taught in such a manner that the martial art community as a whole is much poorer for not having him with us, it is time for those of us still training, teaching and living to step it up a notch in his honor. With the loss of a great person, the responsibility for us to strive for greatness increases. We must rise up and fill the void. Let's all strive to be a positive force in the martial arts and life. You can use GM Han as an example, and if his example helps you be a better person, a better martial artists, a better instructor, and so on, his memory will be well served. May GM Han rest in peace and may his family, friends, and students know that he is missed and his contributions were great. Alain www.burrese.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- Message: 11 From: Ray Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Nose versus mouth breathin To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:18:15 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I've always been told that concussions were acceleration injuries: the > skulls accelerates so fast that it overwhelms the natural shock absorption > between it and the brain and the brain slams into the inside of the skull. > > How does having an open mouth put one at greater risk of concussion? The rear of the mandible slams into the skull, frequently resulting in a broken jaw and often a concussion. Forgive my lack of proper medical terminology. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest