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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. OK, your good but can you fight? (Cayson, Clint) 2. RE: OK, your good but can you fight? (michael tomlinson) 3. RE: OK, your good but can you fight? (Cayson, Clint) 4. Boise, ID seminar (aburrese@aol.com) 5. RE: OK, your good but can you fight? (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) 6. Re: OK, your good but can you fight? (Jye nigma) 7. World Combat League (Chip Mautz) 8. RE: Korean Terminology audio CD and book set (J R Hilland) 9. century wavemaster bag base (Mark Gajdostik) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:57:55 -0500 From: "Cayson, Clint" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have a good friend who goes to TKD class for 5 days for 4 years now and he's concern about the question he got from his instructor. Last night while we were practicing (a different MA) told me that he was asked by his instructor 4 times already saying, "OK, your forms are exceptional but can you fight?". Now, I know that he can fight seriously but is this normally a good question to his student? I noticed one time that his attitude changed after learning BJJ from another school... it could be one of the reasons or not but I'd like to know your opinion on this because it maybe too late to stop if my good friend accept his challenge. Thanks. Ps. He may or may not a member of DD but I'd like to keep the instructor's identity for safe reasons. -------------------------------------- Clint V Cayson --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:54:29 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Are they only practicing forms?? Or are they sparring also?? Sounds kind of strange... Michael Tomlinson >From: "Cayson, Clint" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:57:55 -0500 > >I have a good friend who goes to TKD class for 5 days for 4 years now >and he's concern about the question he got from his instructor. Last >night while we were practicing (a different MA) told me that he was >asked by his instructor 4 times already saying, "OK, your forms are >exceptional but can you fight?". Now, I know that he can fight >seriously but is this normally a good question to his student? I >noticed one time that his attitude changed after learning BJJ from >another school... it could be one of the reasons or not but I'd like to >know your opinion on this because it maybe too late to stop if my good >friend accept his challenge. Thanks. > >Ps. He may or may not a member of DD but I'd like to keep the >instructor's identity for safe reasons. > >-------------------------------------- >Clint V Cayson >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:22:26 -0500 From: "Cayson, Clint" To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In my own assumptions, I think they do have sessions on forms and sparring. I wasn't collecting all the details but rather listen to his story. Thanks, -------------------------------------- Clint V Cayson -----Original Message----- From: michael tomlinson [mailto:tomlinson_michael@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:54 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? Are they only practicing forms?? Or are they sparring also?? Sounds kind of strange... Michael Tomlinson >From: "Cayson, Clint" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:57:55 -0500 > >I have a good friend who goes to TKD class for 5 days for 4 years now >and he's concern about the question he got from his instructor. Last >night while we were practicing (a different MA) told me that he was >asked by his instructor 4 times already saying, "OK, your forms are >exceptional but can you fight?". Now, I know that he can fight >seriously but is this normally a good question to his student? I >noticed one time that his attitude changed after learning BJJ from >another school... it could be one of the reasons or not but I'd like to >know your opinion on this because it maybe too late to stop if my good >friend accept his challenge. Thanks. > >Ps. He may or may not a member of DD but I'd like to keep the >instructor's identity for safe reasons. > >-------------------------------------- >Clint V Cayson >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http:/ /spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk t=en-us _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:51 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Boise, ID seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'll be teaching in Boise, ID on Saturday, April 14th, 2007. It will be a full day seminar with topics to include Self-defense, Joint Locks, Hapkido Principles, and the Cane. If you are interested, e-mail me and I'll hook you up with the hosts to get more specifics. Alain www.burrese.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:23:43 -0000 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Although a lot of people do MA to learn how to fight or defend themselves, taking a challenge to fight does not mean that you a better martial artist than the one who chooses not to. So unless your life or the life of a loved one is on the line having a real fight IMO is pointless. Now if one just wants to spar or compete then that's different, in those matches there is set time period, etiquette, and the understanding that neither person wants to inflict any serious harm -----Original Message----- From: Cayson, Clint [mailto:CCayson@luxuryresorts.com] Sent: 26 January 2007 13:58 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? I have a good friend who goes to TKD class for 5 days for 4 years now and he's concern about the question he got from his instructor. Last night while we were practicing (a different MA) told me that he was asked by his instructor 4 times already saying, "OK, your forms are exceptional but can you fight?". Now, I know that he can fight seriously but is this normally a good question to his student? I noticed one time that his attitude changed after learning BJJ from another school... it could be one of the reasons or not but I'd like to know your opinion on this because it maybe too late to stop if my good friend accept his challenge. Thanks. Ps. He may or may not a member of DD but I'd like to keep the instructor's identity for safe reasons. -------------------------------------- Clint V Cayson _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang **************************************************************************** SMOKE ALARMS SAVE LIVES Go to London Fire at www.london-fire.gov.uk/firesafety This email is confidential to the addressee only. If you do not believe that you are the intended addressee, do not use, pass on or copy it in any way. If you have received it in error, please delete it immediately and telephone the supplied number, reversing the charges if necessary. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] OK, your good but can you fight? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net fair question. Forms and fighting are separate worlds to an extent. Forms should contain the theories, and principles of a MA system. Sparring allows you to utilize and test those theories/principles with the boundaries of rules. Fighting is using those things in real time combat with no rules. Jye "Cayson, Clint" wrote: I have a good friend who goes to TKD class for 5 days for 4 years now and he's concern about the question he got from his instructor. Last night while we were practicing (a different MA) told me that he was asked by his instructor 4 times already saying, "OK, your forms are exceptional but can you fight?". Now, I know that he can fight seriously but is this normally a good question to his student? I noticed one time that his attitude changed after learning BJJ from another school... it could be one of the reasons or not but I'd like to know your opinion on this because it maybe too late to stop if my good friend accept his challenge. Thanks. Ps. He may or may not a member of DD but I'd like to keep the instructor's identity for safe reasons. -------------------------------------- Clint V Cayson _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:49:49 -0500 From: "Chip Mautz" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] World Combat League Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I watched an interesting show on Versus (Formerly OLN?) last night, called World Combat League. http://www.worldcombatleague.com/ It's sponsored/created (?) by Chuck Norris, and reminds me of what I've read about how Karate-style competition was in the 60's. Boxing gloves, TKD-style foot gear, and mouthpieces are all they wear - full contact - etc. No grappling. Points were deducted for not fighting (gassed fighters), timidity (running from the fighter), leaving the 'ring' - which was a bowl-shaped padded floor, with a lip, that you could run in and out of. Two teams, city-based, men and women fighting same-sex matches. Very different from the UFC, PRIDE, etc. It was really fun to watch. Every commercial was an infomercial for Chuck's Total Gym, but aside from that, it was really fun to watch, and fun to emphasize punching and kicking. People bled, got knocked out (one guy from a punch to the jaw, then after getting up, a roundhouse to the ribs under the arm). Karate, TKD, Kickboxing, Kung Fu, Boxing, lots of different styles. I'm not into martial arts for the sporting aspect, but it sure was fun to watch! Good to see Chuck involved with it as well... Anybody else see it? Most MA people I know here in GA didn't see it last night, and hadn't heard of it - I don't know how it's being marketed - these people are avid MA media readers and UFC/PRIDE followers. I happened to catch it advertised on Versus, while setting up my DVR to record some fly fishing shows. :-) Chip Mautz Dacula, GA, USA --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:05:02 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Korean Terminology audio CD and book set Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This is free... http://www.hapkidoselfdefense.com/audio.htm Jere R. Hilland, Fargo, ND www.hapkidoselfdefense.com --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Mark Gajdostik" To: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:31:12 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] century wavemaster bag base Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings All, Any of you have quick fix ideas for the wavemaster bags from century? My students seem to be kicking too hard and breaking them. Century wants me to send back a piece cut off of it for credit, but if any of you have discovered a way to repair them, please share. Mark Gajdostik TNT Martial Arts 503-640-8400 www.TNTma.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest