Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:58:34 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #35 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Sinmoo Hapkido Seminar (Sean Bradley) 2. Re: Deadly Martial Arts (Jye nigma) 3. RE: Martial Arts Tutor Online (J R Hilland) 4. RE: RE: Martial Arts Tutor Online (michael tomlinson) 5. Woman in second video (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 6. Re: Martial Arts Tutor On Line (aburrese@aol.com) 7. RE: Re: Martial Arts Tutor On Line (michael tomlinson) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Sean Bradley Subject: [The_Dojang] Sinmoo Hapkido Seminar Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:49:18 -0800 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dojunim Ji will be teaching his annual Sinmoo Hapkido seminar in Seattle, Washington this spring. Dates: April 14th and 15th Times: 7-9 meditation 9-5 training Cost: $200 before March 15th, $225 after March 15th Contact: Sean Bradley at info@washingtonhapkido.com This seminar is always a blast, so don't miss out this year. I will be putting out a tentative schedule next month, and check www.washingtonhapkido.com for updated information shortly. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:28:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Deadly Martial Arts To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I wish they would have shown the fighting usage of capoeira. I had an idea and maybe someone would like to do the same. had an idea of traveling to various schools of martial arts meeting the teachers and doing a video magazine type deal. I wont be able to start it right away so maybe someone else would like to do it. Jye john.a.mcintosh@openreach.co.uk wrote: I recently bought the DVD series for this show in a remaindered bookstore in Scotland for the bargain price of six pounds (about 9 dollars). I enjoyed it, although I could have done without the travelogue sequences in favour of more detailed martial arts footage Re http://martialartstutor.com/ does anybody else have any problems with this site? Although I can enter the site, at no point does any link information appear, is it just me (oh it is, well that's all right then). John Lang may your lum reek _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:04:34 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Martial Arts Tutor Online Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I confess I cringed when I saw what they called hapkido. But I think you may be on the right track Michael, as the hapkido basic motion is way off track ... Jere R. Hilland, Fargo, ND www.rrhapkido.com <<>> --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] RE: Martial Arts Tutor Online Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:02:45 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jere cringed....I did the same thing...one video I noticed the "master" taking about 6 or 7 little happy steps to do a basic technique...when you see this you just know that they didn't learn that from anyone I've been around....even the follow up kicks were not Hapkido kicks...the punches were straight out of the tkd forms with the arm held low in the reverse punch look.....looked like tkd with a one weekend seminar from someone or somewhere who didn't know Hapkido either... and then straight to Best Buy to get a video camera..... BUT.....the video camera was a good one because the video was nice and clear....Michael Tomlinson >From: "J R Hilland" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Martial Arts Tutor Online >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:04:34 -0600 > >I confess I cringed when I saw what they called hapkido. But I think you >may >be on the right track Michael, as the hapkido basic motion is way off track >... > >Jere R. Hilland, Fargo, ND >www.rrhapkido.com > ><<stuff...IMHO....the Hapkido folks are basically TKD people who have learned >some "hapkido"...the reason I say this is not to be disrespectful in any >way....it's just that when I see Hapkido done and being taught at the "tug >of war" range and no emphasis on body twisting, knee bending, stepping, >pressing, and keeping your elbows in close to your ribs,, I know they >haven't studied right or very long....but hey...I'm just an old guy with no >video camera..... Michael Tomlinson>>> >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:22:59 -0500 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Woman in second video Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa7OuJ8ZJGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2fCoUoQrRY Joe Cheavens wrote: Great vids. Who is the woman in the second one and what is the story there?  My reply: Don't know Joe -- just somebody I found on youtube. But the attack looked real enough that I shared it. Also, for those of you working the free-standing bags... A word to the wise: One of my friends kicked an Everlast free-standing heavy bag. The base is metal and when he landed, the base (which had rocked back with the kick) came down and sliced through his Achilles tendon. Took him a while to come back from that one. Take care, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:48:49 -0500 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Martial Arts Tutor On Line Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net That's a really cool site...some good stuff and not so good stuff...IMHO....the Hapkido folks are basically TKD people who have learned some "hapkido"...the reason I say this is not to be disrespectful in any way....it's just that when I see Hapkido done and being taught at the "tug of war" range and no emphasis on body twisting, knee bending, stepping, pressing, and keeping your elbows in close to your ribs,, I know they haven't studied right or very long....but hey...I'm just an old guy with no video camera..... Michael Tomlinson ************************** I agree with you Mike. It is a cool site, but the Hapkido is a bit different from what I've learned and teach. One of the first things I noticed was in the still photographs. There were people down on both knees holding a person down. While there may be times when you are on both knees, I always teach to have one knee up. And a knee on a person pinning him down is the same as a knee on the ground, that is your down knee. I'm not sure why anyone would use the picture they did with the caption Taking Down Another Student. The guy is down on both knees holding his oponent's arm down, but he is in such a bad position. If buddies come up, he sure is not ready for them. There are much better ways to pin a guy after slamming him on his face. My favorite is to put one knee into his shoulder, pinning him to the ground, and then keep the other knee up, and keep your back and head up too. In this way, you can be ready for anyone else coming up and deal with them too. I didn't watch the video clips yet, but may check them out later. Still a cool site. Alain, who unlike Mike, does have a video camera. :-) www.burrese.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Martial Arts Tutor On Line Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:35:35 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Alain, The way you explain it is exactly how I learned it and do it...tonight in class I was telling some students...don't automatically go to a knee....put your knee on their ribs, neck, side of head, etc. where ever you end up there is a place to put your knee and shin....Master Whalen used to call a hard shin bone on your opponents head pinning him down a "korean pillow"....funny and helps you remember it....also keeping the back straight and head up to see is the proper way IMHO...not only can you see but by keeping that posture you are more balanced and stable...as I'm sure you know...also tonight I was saying in class that it is easy to bump your knee down on a mat but if you ingrain that into your auto response and you slam that knee down on some cold hard concrete you might have a problem just from that alone....besides the dude trying to hurt you...tonight I had one of my black belts working on quick takedown techniques for his 2nd dan test coming up .....30 techniques grabbing and taking an opponent down very quickly...all offensive in nature...the things all 30 have in common is no technique takes more than 3 steps...all techniques end with your opponents body directly in line and underneath you...and you end up with your knee and shin pinning him to the ground on 25 of the 30 and you still have ahold of one of his arms, neck, jaw bone, or head as he is on the ground......I had to put these 30 together to train an ERT SWAT Team here in Florida about 10 years ago...some of my buddies needed some quick takedowns for house raids etc....they are pretty cool...and I'm sure you old school HKD dudes have seen every one of those techniques before......good and bad HKD to me looks like a bag of potato chips....good HKD are the chips on top when you open the bag...they are complete, crispy, and look like potato chips...bad HKD looks like the crunched up potato chip sludge at the bottom of the bag...doesn't look anything like the chips on top...but I guess they are still kind of potato chips...sorry dudes everything for me ends up in a food analogy....go figure....Michael Tomlinson >From: aburrese@aol.com >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Martial Arts Tutor On Line >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:48:49 -0500 > > That's a really cool site...some good stuff and not so good >stuff...IMHO....the Hapkido folks are basically TKD people who have >learned >some "hapkido"...the reason I say this is not to be disrespectful in any > >way....it's just that when I see Hapkido done and being taught at the >"tug >of war" range and no emphasis on body twisting, knee bending, stepping, >pressing, and keeping your elbows in close to your ribs,, I know they >haven't studied right or very long....but hey...I'm just an old guy with >no >video camera..... > Michael Tomlinson > > >************************** > >I agree with you Mike. It is a cool site, but the Hapkido is a bit >different from what I've learned and teach. One of the first things I >noticed was in the still photographs. There were people down on both knees >holding a person down. While there may be times when you are on both >knees, I always teach to have one knee up. And a knee on a person pinning >him down is the same as a knee on the ground, that is your down knee. > >I'm not sure why anyone would use the picture they did with the caption >Taking Down Another Student. The guy is down on both knees holding his >oponent's arm down, but he is in such a bad position. If buddies come up, >he sure is not ready for them. There are much better ways to pin a guy >after slamming him on his face. My favorite is to put one knee into his >shoulder, pinning him to the ground, and then keep the other knee up, and >keep your back and head up too. In this way, you can be ready for anyone >else coming up and deal with them too. I didn't watch the video clips yet, >but may check them out later. > >Still a cool site. > >Alain, who unlike Mike, does have a video camera. :-) > >www.burrese.com >________________________________________________________________________ >Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security >tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, >free AOL Mail and more. >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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