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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,100 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Making a video (hankido@mac.com) 2. RE: Re: Making a video (Cayson, Clint) 3. RE: Re: Making a video (michael tomlinson) 4. HKD Video (Gordon) 5. RE: HKD Video (michael tomlinson) 6. Re: Re: Making a video (Jye nigma) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:55:11 -0800 From: hankido@mac.com To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Making your own martial arts video doesn't have to be expensive at all. And it could actually provide you with a little extra. But you shouldn't be doing it for the money. Of course there is some initial investment, and you should do it because you think it is fun, not because you want to make a living out of it. And don't count the hours you will put into it. See it as a hobby. ;-) When I lived in Korea I put together two DVD's with my teacher. We did everything ourselves. We bought a second hand Canon XL-1 camera, which we picked up for around $800 at the time. We got a tripod with it as well. This is a very decent camera. Of course you need a computer as well, and will need to play around with some of the software that is available. I played around with some downloaded (yes, not a very legal thing to do) software and then decided which software was okay for me. Shoot your kids, and make a nice DVD. This way the wife won't care you spending a few hours behind the keyboard ;-) I use a 5 year old apple G4 computer and a student version of Final Cut Studio (which I bought). The software comes with a program to edit your footage, a DVD-make program and lots of other stuff. The software has a lot of professional features, most of which you will never use and can probably do without. Anyway, lets say you had to buy everything from scratch. 1. a second hand camera - $1000 2. software $600 3. second hand computer - $1000 ------------------------------------------------------ $2600 After you have finished shooting and editing the DVD Don't hurry on this part and don't try to shoot everything in one day. Shoot, review, and shoot again after a week, repeat the process until you are satisfied. You have two options: 1. Let a professional company print your DVD's 2. Burn them yourself. Option 1 being the most expensive but will also give you the most professional looking product. So lets say you go for option 1. Again, shop around, and you will find that you can get your DVD's printed, packaged, etc. etc. for maybe $1500, in which case you get 1000 DVD's. $2600 + $1500 = $4100 Add some additional costs, just to make sure: $400 bringing the total to $4500 That would be for the first DVD, on every consecutive DVD you release, you already earned back the camera and stuff. When you make 2 DVD's the initial investment is only $6000. The average DVD might sell for $30 (excl. shipping) So after you have sold the first 150 DVD's you start making a profit. Lets say you produced two DVD's and release them as a package for $55. You start making profit after selling 110 DVD's. And remember you have 850 DVD's left !!! The internet is a great way to sell your DVD's. Ours are for sale at http://www.sangmookwan.com/ ;-) If people are interested in producing their own DVD's at an affordable rate, drop me an email. You could come to Korea and use some of the scenery here to shoot for your DVD. Enjoy some food and of course a lot of practice ';-) -- mvg. Klaas Barends http://www.hapkidoforum.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:08:46 -0500 From: "Cayson, Clint" To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You can also make videos from a different area for example. Traveling wouldn't cost a lot too. I use www.yousendit.com for all videos I make and send it my some of my out-of-state areas. For example, you can make a video from Florida and you're sending it to Maryland - this is one of the best websites I've used so far, it's free but the capacity is limited (500Mb). So, HKD or TKD basic techniques are lot easier to send with this site. Just an info. -------------------------------------- Clint V Cayson -----Original Message----- From: hankido@mac.com [mailto:hankido@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:55 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video Hi Making your own martial arts video doesn't have to be expensive at all. And it could actually provide you with a little extra. But you shouldn't be doing it for the money. Of course there is some initial investment, and you should do it because you think it is fun, not because you want to make a living out of it. And don't count the hours you will put into it. See it as a hobby. ;-) When I lived in Korea I put together two DVD's with my teacher. We did everything ourselves. We bought a second hand Canon XL-1 camera, which we picked up for around $800 at the time. We got a tripod with it as well. This is a very decent camera. Of course you need a computer as well, and will need to play around with some of the software that is available. I played around with some downloaded (yes, not a very legal thing to do) software and then decided which software was okay for me. Shoot your kids, and make a nice DVD. This way the wife won't care you spending a few hours behind the keyboard ;-) I use a 5 year old apple G4 computer and a student version of Final Cut Studio (which I bought). The software comes with a program to edit your footage, a DVD-make program and lots of other stuff. The software has a lot of professional features, most of which you will never use and can probably do without. Anyway, lets say you had to buy everything from scratch. 1. a second hand camera - $1000 2. software $600 3. second hand computer - $1000 ------------------------------------------------------ $2600 After you have finished shooting and editing the DVD Don't hurry on this part and don't try to shoot everything in one day. Shoot, review, and shoot again after a week, repeat the process until you are satisfied. You have two options: 1. Let a professional company print your DVD's 2. Burn them yourself. Option 1 being the most expensive but will also give you the most professional looking product. So lets say you go for option 1. Again, shop around, and you will find that you can get your DVD's printed, packaged, etc. etc. for maybe $1500, in which case you get 1000 DVD's. $2600 + $1500 = $4100 Add some additional costs, just to make sure: $400 bringing the total to $4500 That would be for the first DVD, on every consecutive DVD you release, you already earned back the camera and stuff. When you make 2 DVD's the initial investment is only $6000. The average DVD might sell for $30 (excl. shipping) So after you have sold the first 150 DVD's you start making a profit. Lets say you produced two DVD's and release them as a package for $55. You start making profit after selling 110 DVD's. And remember you have 850 DVD's left !!! The internet is a great way to sell your DVD's. Ours are for sale at http://www.sangmookwan.com/ ;-) If people are interested in producing their own DVD's at an affordable rate, drop me an email. You could come to Korea and use some of the scenery here to shoot for your DVD. Enjoy some food and of course a lot of practice ';-) -- mvg. Klaas Barends http://www.hapkidoforum.com/ _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:44:14 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Klaas, Thanks for the info...very cool breakdown...yep I'm gonna do it...Michael Tomlinson >From: hankido@mac.com >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 03:55:11 -0800 > >Hi > >Making your own martial arts video doesn't have to be expensive at all. >And it could actually provide you with a little extra. But you shouldn't be >doing it for the money. > >Of course there is some initial investment, and you should do it because >you think it is fun, not because you want to make a living out of it. >And don't count the hours you will put into it. See it as a hobby. ;-) > >When I lived in Korea I put together two DVD's with my teacher. We did >everything ourselves. > >We bought a second hand Canon XL-1 camera, which we picked up for around >$800 at the time. We got a tripod with it as well. >This is a very decent camera. > >Of course you need a computer as well, and will need to play around with >some of the software that is available. >I played around with some downloaded (yes, not a very legal thing to do) >software and then decided which software was okay for me. >Shoot your kids, and make a nice DVD. This way the wife won't care you >spending a few hours behind the keyboard ;-) > >I use a 5 year old apple G4 computer and a student version of Final Cut >Studio (which I bought). >The software comes with a program to edit your footage, a DVD-make program >and lots of other stuff. >The software has a lot of professional features, most of which you will >never use and can probably do without. > >Anyway, lets say you had to buy everything from scratch. >1. a second hand camera - $1000 >2. software $600 >3. second hand computer - $1000 >------------------------------------------------------ > $2600 > >After you have finished shooting and editing the DVD >Don't hurry on this part and don't try to shoot everything in one day. >Shoot, review, and shoot again after a week, repeat the process until you >are satisfied. > >You have two options: >1. Let a professional company print your DVD's >2. Burn them yourself. > >Option 1 being the most expensive but will also give you the most >professional looking product. > >So lets say you go for option 1. >Again, shop around, and you will find that you can get your DVD's printed, >packaged, etc. etc. for maybe $1500, in which case you get 1000 DVD's. > >$2600 + $1500 = $4100 > >Add some additional costs, just to make sure: $400 bringing the total to >$4500 > >That would be for the first DVD, on every consecutive DVD you release, you >already earned back the camera and stuff. > >When you make 2 DVD's the initial investment is only $6000. > >The average DVD might sell for $30 (excl. shipping) >So after you have sold the first 150 DVD's you start making a profit. > >Lets say you produced two DVD's and release them as a package for $55. >You start making profit after selling 110 DVD's. > >And remember you have 850 DVD's left !!! > >The internet is a great way to sell your DVD's. >Ours are for sale at http://www.sangmookwan.com/ ;-) > >If people are interested in producing their own DVD's at an affordable >rate, drop me an email. >You could come to Korea and use some of the scenery here to shoot for your >DVD. Enjoy some food and of course a lot of practice ';-) > > >-- >mvg. Klaas Barends > > http://www.hapkidoforum.com/ >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Gordon" To: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:05:25 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] HKD Video Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hoo-ha! Good for you! No purple spandex and I'll buy one! Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] HKD Video Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:25:51 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net LOL.....purple spandex for the "advanced HKD videos only"........I could do that and end up on America's Funniest Home Videos....and use that money from winning to pay for all my therapy!!!! Michael Tomlinson >From: "Gordon" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: [The_Dojang] HKD Video >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:05:25 -0600 > >Hoo-ha! Good for you! No purple spandex and I'll buy one! > >Gordon Okerstrom >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Laugh, share and connect with Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Making a video To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net nowadays with the power of PCs, you can make your own video/movie at a relatively inexpensive price. You can save money by renting the equipment, or if you already have equipment you're in the house and just have to really worry about graphics, dvd reproduction and stuff like that. But a guy like me I can do everything except mass produce the DVDs BUT, you can buy that equipement and it's not too expensive. Jye hankido@mac.com wrote: Hi Making your own martial arts video doesn't have to be expensive at all. And it could actually provide you with a little extra. But you shouldn't be doing it for the money. Of course there is some initial investment, and you should do it because you think it is fun, not because you want to make a living out of it. And don't count the hours you will put into it. See it as a hobby. ;-) When I lived in Korea I put together two DVD's with my teacher. We did everything ourselves. We bought a second hand Canon XL-1 camera, which we picked up for around $800 at the time. We got a tripod with it as well. This is a very decent camera. Of course you need a computer as well, and will need to play around with some of the software that is available. I played around with some downloaded (yes, not a very legal thing to do) software and then decided which software was okay for me. Shoot your kids, and make a nice DVD. This way the wife won't care you spending a few hours behind the keyboard ;-) I use a 5 year old apple G4 computer and a student version of Final Cut Studio (which I bought). The software comes with a program to edit your footage, a DVD-make program and lots of other stuff. The software has a lot of professional features, most of which you will never use and can probably do without. Anyway, lets say you had to buy everything from scratch. 1. a second hand camera - $1000 2. software $600 3. second hand computer - $1000 ------------------------------------------------------ $2600 After you have finished shooting and editing the DVD Don't hurry on this part and don't try to shoot everything in one day. Shoot, review, and shoot again after a week, repeat the process until you are satisfied. You have two options: 1. Let a professional company print your DVD's 2. Burn them yourself. Option 1 being the most expensive but will also give you the most professional looking product. So lets say you go for option 1. Again, shop around, and you will find that you can get your DVD's printed, packaged, etc. etc. for maybe $1500, in which case you get 1000 DVD's. $2600 + $1500 = $4100 Add some additional costs, just to make sure: $400 bringing the total to $4500 That would be for the first DVD, on every consecutive DVD you release, you already earned back the camera and stuff. When you make 2 DVD's the initial investment is only $6000. The average DVD might sell for $30 (excl. shipping) So after you have sold the first 150 DVD's you start making a profit. Lets say you produced two DVD's and release them as a package for $55. You start making profit after selling 110 DVD's. And remember you have 850 DVD's left !!! The internet is a great way to sell your DVD's. Ours are for sale at http://www.sangmookwan.com/ ;-) If people are interested in producing their own DVD's at an affordable rate, drop me an email. You could come to Korea and use some of the scenery here to shoot for your DVD. Enjoy some food and of course a lot of practice ';-) -- mvg. Klaas Barends http://www.hapkidoforum.com/ _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! 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