Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:58:32 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #84 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plus11.host4u.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re:humility (Beungood8@aol.com) 2. RE: Article Query: Why I Hate TMA (fwd) (michael tomlinson) 3. Re: Article Query: Why I Hate TMA (michael tomlinson) 4. Re: Why I Hate TMA (tim walker) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:38:13 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re:humility Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 3/13/2007 6:52:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: think that guy is awesome!! To write that much about how great you are....he has really learned a lot about life in all his studies..... Kind of thought he looked and sounded like an A__le


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Article Query: Why I Hate TMA (fwd) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:48:47 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Craig, I feel what your saying....growing up we had some tough guys in and around are neighborhoods...some of them got shot, a few got stabbed, one got beat in the face with a shovel, and some got murdered, and all these tough guys were in Great Shape at the time!!! One of the guys who actually beat the guy in the face with a shovel was kind of fat..but a real nice guy until you messed with him....funny thing is that the fat around his waist didn't stop him from swinging that shovel..and he didn't even break a sweat because it happened in the winter right at his doorway..that's why the shovel was there...to get the snow off the porch and it turned out to be pretty handy...still can hear that pinging from the metal hitting the head when I think about it......the guy he beat in the face really had it coming...when I was a tot he used to chase us down the street and shoot us with his bb gun...when he got his we were ALL laughing......couldn't of happened to a more deserving "tough guy"...bottom line is this IMHO....I respect everyone who trains and does the right thing..... when you get wrapped up in your own ego like this dude has with the really cool bio/homage to himself...then you are setting yourself up to not see the obvious.....I've noticed over the years that a lot of people who train for the ring tend to see every altercation as a "ring fight" most guys that I grew up with who knows someone IS a badass won't throw hands or grapple with them..they'll just shoot them or knife them and always when they don't expect it.....the only way to train for that is to stay humble, respectful, and aware of things around you.....and that is almost impossible to do when you are so focused on your own ego.....good luck to this gent with the bio....and I hope he doesn't learn the hard way one day when he insults some little fat dude out in public or late at night somewhere when no one is looking........ Michael Tomlinson >From: "Stovall, Craig" >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Article Query: Why I Hate TMA (fwd) >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:06:27 -0500 > ><<please let me know.>>> > > > >Ummmmmmm, yeah. I've done the "TMA thing" with the belts, and the >bowing, and the forms, and the foreign language. I've done the >progressive "modern martial arts thing" (JKD, Kali, Silat, Muay Thai, >boxing, etc) with the sweat pants, and the lack of rituals, and the >American terminology, and the techniques geared toward more "street" >applications. And finally, I've found my current home in MMA as a coach >and a competitor...with the sweat, and the blood, and the battling, and >the constant technical refinements, and the hardcore conditioning. > > > >What I've learned is this...if you really LOVE what you do, then you >don't concern yourself with what others do...you're too damned busy for >that. So, while articles like this are entertaining they still smack of >"I've got a better pot to piss in" attitudes, and carry their own >dogmatic baggage concerning what is good/real/valuable. > > > >Wow...you're a tough guy...good for you!!! Well, not everybody wants to >be a tough guy, and that's a good thing. There's already too many tough >guys in the world. > > > >Why do you hate TMA? Can't see the value in it, or do you just see what >you want to see? If there weren't so many fat black belts out there >then you wouldn't have anything to compare yourself to know would you? > > > >You should post this at an MMA list...you're sure to find some >19-year-old kid with a Chuck Liddell t-shirt that will give you the >virtual reach around and tell you what an old school badass you are. > > > >Craig "I'm only intolerant of intolerance" Stovall >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Article Query: Why I Hate TMA Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:52:22 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net LOL.....no really I want to follow this guy around like a little fat kid after the ice cream truck...he definately has it figured out...that story probably made Chuck Norris fart in his jeans.....Michael Tomlinson >From: jay.oconnor@comcast.net >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Article Query: Why I Hate TMA >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:14:30 +0000 > >My sarcasm meter spun so hard and fast, I think it popped a spring... > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "michael tomlinson" > > I think that guy is awesome!! To write that much about how great you > > are....he has really learned a lot about life in all his studies..... > > Michael > > Tomlinson > > > > > > >From: The_Dojang > > >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Article Query: Why I Hate TMA > > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:58:48 -0700 > > > > > >>This article should stir up your readers. If you want soem photos, >please > > >>let me know. > > > > > >Boy, I certainly can't wait to see those photos... :) > > > > > >Just a basic troll post, typical of what you see in rec.martial-farts. > > >{sic} > > > > > >Ignore... > > > > > >Ray > > >_______________________________________________ > > >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > > >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > > >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > > >Standard disclaimers apply > > >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft >Office > > Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more….then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "tim walker" To: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:40:15 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Why I Hate TMA Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <> Naw...he's a fighter, not a wrighter! timo "one way to train for fighting: Running, lifting hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting, kicking, kicking, sparing, and wrestling...damn, I'm tard. Anybody got a beer?" --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest