Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:58:36 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #86 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. TKD hall of fame (The_Dojang) 2. Rods (Brian Beach) 3. RE: Rods (Joseph Cheavens) 4. Re: Sinmoo Hapkido Seminar (J Hazen) 5. Soke-ness (Luther Veuleman) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:25:01 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] TKD hall of fame Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Taekwondo Hall of Fame Ceremony Tickets Now On Sale to General Public Jhoon Rhee, author of "Bruce Lee and I" to deliver keynote address at Inaugural Taekwondo Hall of Fame Ceremony Hackensack, NJ (PRWeb) March 15, 2007 -- On April 6th, 2007 Olympic, World and National Taekwondo champions and leaders from numerous countries will meet in the USA to participate in the first Taekwondo Hall of Fame (www.taekwodohalloffame.com) induction ceremony. The historic event will begin at 6:00PM at the Sheraton Hotel & Convention Center located at 2 Meadowlands Plaza, East Rutherford, New Jersey, (5 minutes from New York City). Jhoon Rhee, the "Father of American Taekwondo" and author of "Bruce Lee and I" will deliver the keynote address at this event which will honor amongst others, America's pioneer champions from the 60's, 70's as well as numerous current world and Olympic champions from several countries. Best Fighters of the 60's Persons being honored representing the period of the 60's include legends Allen Steen, Pat Burleson, Skipper Mullins, and Mitchell Bobrow. Mitchell Bobrow, who as a youth competed against Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Luis Delgado and other greats of his era, has been selected to serve as this year's honorary banquet chairman. Bobrow presently owner of Otomix, Inc. will be inducted as one of the "Best Fighters of the 60's" Mike Warren, Joseph Hayes, Albert Cheeks, and members of the team that competed at the 1st World Taekwondo held in Korea in 1973 will be honored and receive special recognition. Nia Abdallah, and Arlene Limas, America's premier female Olympic medalists will be also inducted into the Taekwondo Hall of Fame. Other nominees include Dong Keun Park (Korea), Henk Meijer (Netherlands), Amr Khairy (Egypt), Tuncay Levent and Pinar Budak (Germany), Brigette Yague (Spain). Ray Nikiel, (Canada), Dawn Lefebre (Canada) Ramiro Guzman (Mexico), Laxman Basnet (Nepal), Donal O'Donoghue (Ireland), Sarah Chung (Malaysia), and Wong Liang Ming (Singapore), Arlene Limas (USA) Entertainment will include a spectacular demonstration performed by "M-Team", a 20 member demonstration team based in California. The general public can purchase tickets by calling (973) 919-5480.or by going to http://www.taekwondoevents.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Brian Beach Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:10:32 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Rods Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Methinks you are trying to force a square peg into a round hole. > Proverbs 13:24 (King James Version) > > 24He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him > chasteneth him betimes. And ... > Proverbs 19:18 (King James Version) > > 18Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare > for his crying. And... > > Proverbs 22:15 (King James Version) > > 15Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of > correction shall drive it far from him. And... > Proverbs 23:13-14 (King James Version) > > 13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him > with the rod, he shall not die. > 14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul > from hell. Seems pretty clear to me but I don't subscribe. Brian Beach On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:01 AM, the_dojang- request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > My Reply: The Encarta dictionary defines a rod as “a > stick, or bundle of sticks tied together, used for whipping > somebody as a punishment.” However I find that a > different definition fits better in to this discussion. A > rod is a tool used by surveyors to determine elevation > differences and also a unit of measurement (1 rod = 16.5 > feet/5.5 yards). The “rod” is for establishing the > standard and reproof helps the individual to modify their > behavior to meet the standard. I believe Mr. Burdick and I > are saying the same thing, but a different way --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Rods Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:04:06 -0600 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You forgot "Walk softly and carrry a big stick."  Or how about, "five, six, pick up sticks; seven, eight, lay them out straight."  "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will make me go in a corner and cry by myself for hours." Eric Idle   Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Beach Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Rods Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:10:32 -0400 Methinks you are trying to force a square peg into a round hole. > Proverbs 13:24 (King James Version) > > 24He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him > chasteneth him betimes. And ... > Proverbs 19:18 (King James Version) > > 18Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare > for his crying. And... > > Proverbs 22:15 (King James Version) > > 15Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of > correction shall drive it far from him. And... > Proverbs 23:13-14 (King James Version) > > 13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him > with the rod, he shall not die. > 14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul > from hell. Seems pretty clear to me but I don't subscribe. Brian Beach On Mar 15, 2007, at 7:01 AM, the_dojang- request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > My Reply: The Encarta dictionary defines a rod as “a > stick, or bundle of sticks tied together, used for whipping > somebody as a punishment.” However I find that a > different definition fits better in to this discussion. A > rod is a tool used by surveyors to determine elevation > differences and also a unit of measurement (1 rod = 16.5 > feet/5.5 yards). The “rod” is for establishing the > standard and reproof helps the individual to modify their > behavior to meet the standard. I believe Mr. Burdick and I > are saying the same thing, but a different way _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: J Hazen To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sinmoo Hapkido Seminar Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just a reminder that if you're interested, now's the time to sign up. It'd be great to meet any of you folks who can attend! Regards, Jeff Hazen On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Sean Bradley had this to say: SB: Dojunim Ji will be teaching his annual Sinmoo Hapkido seminar in Seattle, SB: Washington this spring. SB: SB: Dates: April 14th and 15th SB: Times: 7-9 meditation 9-5 training SB: Cost: $200 before March 15th, $225 after March 15th SB: Contact: Sean Bradley at info@washingtonhapkido.com SB: SB: This seminar is always a blast, so don't miss out this year. I will be SB: putting out a tentative schedule next month, and check SB: www.washingtonhapkido.com for updated information shortly. SB: _______________________________________________ SB: The_Dojang mailing list, 2,100 members SB: The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net SB: Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource SB: Standard disclaimers SB: applyhttp://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang SB: --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Soke-ness Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Digest, Cheavens mentioned the World Head Sokeship council thingy in one of his posts. I have heard of a guy named Dave Shelton who is a part of that group. Anybody have any dealings with this individual or his organization? A friend of mine wound up at something his group was doing. I don't know too much about the Soke Council thingy either, it sounds.....interesting? Being Politically Correct for the moment, Charlie V --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest