Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 02:58:37 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #99 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Burn Out (rwood) 2. Re: Testing Procedures (Lasich, Mark D.) 3. RE: Re: Testing Procedures (michael tomlinson) 4. HANKIDO VIDEO (Gordon Okerstrom) 5. Re: HANKIDO VIDEO (mvoncannon@akdwa.org) 6. Greatest influences (SlaneSavage) 7. Norman Henderson (steven riggs) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "rwood" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:42:00 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Burn Out Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Okerstrom, Two points. First point is you and your governing body need to do is confront the 5th Dan about his behavior and the impact it is having on the schools and students. This needs to be in a manner that the 5th Dan understands it is the behavior you that issue with and not the individual. “love the sinner, hate the sin” approach. There could be a hundred reasons for the shift in behavior…depression, drug abuse, personnel issues, money issues, etc. However until an intervention is accomplished the possibility of discovering the motivation of the behaviors will not materialize. I recommend strongly that any intervention be done in a group setting. Two or three of you approach him and ask what is going on. This will safeguard you against the “I never said that” defense of the confronted. Second point is that the individual may not want to be “rescued”. It may be shame, guilt or pride that prevents him from accepting help from you. You need to be prepared for the rejection of your offer to help or denial of the issues you present. You need to remember that it his choice. The ole “you can lead a horse to water but can not make it drink” circumstances. Know my prayers and with you and the situation. Please advise us of the outcome. IHS, Robert L. Wood, Supervisor, OSS Program I am careful not to confuse excellence with perfection. Excellence I can reach for; perfection is God’s business. – Michael J. Fox This electronic communication is from Moberly Public Schools, and is confidential, privileged, and intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. Any unauthorized disclosure, distribution, or use of the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the CIS Department immediately at the following e-mail address: tech@moberly.k12.mo.us or by calling 660-269-2665. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:15:53 -0400 From: "Lasich, Mark D." To: "Dojang" Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Testing Procedures Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Testing? I understand and appreciate keeping the pure aspect of testing in tact by limiting distractions and interference by limiting spectators, cheering and the like. On the other hand, when and if we ever need to use our training, I am most certain it will not be in such a controlled environment. If a black belt candidate is so easily distracted by being on stage or by someone coughing or cheering, perhaps they require additional training to enhance their ability to focus in the face of opposition or difficult and distracting circumstances? Just a thought. In the spirit, Mark --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: Testing Procedures Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:46:08 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Marc, I agree with you on this...it is like the old story about a guy who went to a quiet mountain top to study how to calm himself and learn to have inner peace, and study the esoteric arts....after coming back and writing books on the subject he was doing a training session for some SF troops to help them calm their heartrates and be able to use breathing exercises, etc during their job to help them be "more efficient"...when he was introduced to the squad and started giving his lecture they started asking him questions that he didn't like, they kept doing it until he got upset, dropped his coffee mug by accident, and then lost his temper,, at that point one of the senior nco's stood up and told the guy..how are you gonna help us when you can't control yourself during times of basic stress...you see we don't get to sit on a mountaintop with no danger and be all nice and fuzzy....at this point he was sent packing......same point....what good is your training if you can't use it when you are freaked out and under scrutiny, pressure, and prying eyes...IMHO if you can't perform under those circumstances then you are training wrong and are really just playing around... Michael Tomlinson >From: "Lasich, Mark D." >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: "Dojang" >Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Testing Procedures >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:15:53 -0400 > >Testing? I understand and appreciate keeping the pure aspect of testing >in tact by limiting distractions and interference by limiting >spectators, cheering and the like. > >On the other hand, when and if we ever need to use our training, I am >most certain it will not be in such a controlled environment. > >If a black belt candidate is so easily distracted by being on stage or >by someone coughing or cheering, perhaps they require additional >training to enhance their ability to focus in the face of opposition or >difficult and distracting circumstances? > >Just a thought. > >In the spirit, >Mark >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Gordon Okerstrom" To: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:16:04 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] HANKIDO VIDEO Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Barends, How is your new video coming? I enjoyed the post from a couple of weeks ago. It was like a trip down memory lane. It reminded me of my old instructor. I'd love to see more! Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:18:55 -0600 From: mvoncannon@akdwa.org To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] HANKIDO VIDEO Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ditto. You also mentioned it was for current students. What about students under other instructors? - Martin Von Cannon American Kang Duk Won Association Instructor, Tacoma DojangTacoma, WA. http://www.akdwa.org Quoting Gordon Okerstrom : > Mr. Barends, > > How is your new video coming? I enjoyed the post from a couple of weeks > ago. It was like a trip down memory lane. It reminded me of my old > instructor. I'd love to see more! > > Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:06:24 +0100 (BST) From: SlaneSavage To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Greatest influences Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi all, we all start training in MA for a variety of reasons and during the journey we come all sorts of individuals, some truely inspirational, others ........ Personally speaking, I have great admiration for Motobu Choki, by all accounts he had a fearsome reputation as a great fighter, with skills backed up by practical experience. He sought out the best instructors around him at that time (Bushi Matsumura, Tokumini Pechin, Itosu Ankoh, Matsumora Kosaku, Motobu Choyu among others) and was not adverse to pressure testing everything he learned. I was just wondering who do you folks most admire, those individuals past and present who truely inspire you to keep at it especially at times of low ebb. with respect Slane ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) From: steven riggs To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Norman Henderson Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I was hoping that someone could help me locate a grandmaster instructor that I had been working with some. His name is Dr. Norman D Henderson and he heads the World Federation of Martial Artists. He has a long history in the martial arts going back to the 50's. He first studied Korean arts with Tang Soo Do while in the military and then later he studied and earned high dan ranking in Chung Do Kwan Tae Kwon Do. He is probably around 60 years of age and his last location was Columbus IN. I have lost touch with all contact through e-mail, web site, telephone etc. coming up negative. If anyone out there has any information about him I would appreciate it. Steven Riggs. stevencriggs@yahoo.com Sensei Steven Riggs Master Instructor American Defensive Arts Master of Philosophy in Martial Science stevencriggs@yahoo.com www.americandefensivearts.org 828-322-6904 --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest