Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:58:34 -0800 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #102 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. North Korea Resources (Dr. Daryl Covington) 2. Re: Hankido DVD (Klaas Barends) 3. Re: Testing Procedures (Lasich, Mark D.) 4. (no subject) (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 5. 10 medals (The_Dojang) 6. Re: RE: Burn Out (Victor.E.Dodge@jci.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Daryl Covington" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] North Korea Resources Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Here are a few links to better understanding North Korea. Also, an article on the Back ground of North Korea and the Refugee situation, written by a close friend of mine, as well as the testimony of a North Korean defector. The Hidden Gulag: Exposing North Korea’s Prison Camps Prisoners’ Testimonies and Satellite Photographs http://www.hrnk.org/hiddengulag/toc.html Starved of Rights: Human Rights and the Food Crisis in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA240032004 Seoul Train: North Korean Refugee Documentary http://www.seoultrain.com/ Flight from North Korea Documentary: http://www.helpinghandskorea.org/in_the_media/FlightfromNorthKorea12.mov Background on North Korea and North Korean Refugees Since 1995, well over 2 million North Koreans have starved to death from years of famine, and another 300,000 have fled to neighboring China in search of food and freedom from tyranny. The Chinese government has refused to grant these North Koreans official status as refugees, due largely to Beijing's historical ties to the communist regime in Pyongyang and fears that such a designation would dramatically boost the already steady influx over the border. The People’s Republic of China has stepped up security in and around its borders with North Korea to ensure the capture and return of refugees, whom it continues to call “illegal migrants”. Once refugees are forcefully repatriated from China, they are regarded by DPRK authorities as traitors of the state and face intense interrogation. Such interrogation is often followed by extended detention (often in prison camps), torture of various kinds, and in extreme cases, summary execution. A growing body of testimonies by successful escapees describe how repatriated pregnant women are subject to forced abortion, especially if the father of their child is Chinese. The border region poses a special danger for female refugees, where a very high percentage of them (70-90%) are captured and sold into sexual slavery. Those arrested for aiding North Korean refugees in China face severe fines, deportation or prison time. By Refuge in China North Korean mother endured forced abortion I am a North Korean woman refugee in China. My name is Han Myong-suk (an alias) and I was born in 1975 in North Korea, making me 29 years old in 2005. My father was a military officer. I finished a 2 year-course commercial college in North Korea. I had been a factory worker for about 2 years when I defected to China for freedom and food in February 1998. On arrival in China, I was picked up by a Chinese gang of human traffickers and sold to a Chinese farmer in Heilungjang Province in China. I was at fifth month of pregnancy when I was arrested at home and repatriated to North Korea by the Chinese police in October in the same year (1998). During detention in North Korea, I defied the order to abort the fetus the prison authorities contemptuously called a ‘Chinese chink’ and was badly beaten and kicked at my belly by a guard. His name is Hwang Myong-dong. My sister was with me at that time. Pain continued but I did not know that my unborn child was killed by his kicking. About a week later, I was taken to a clinic and in a most blunt manner, they extracted the dead child from my body. The physical injuries sustained at that time were such that I became very weak and I am no longer able to be pregnant again. After the abortion when I was still bleeding, I was sent to a labor camp where I was subject to all kinds of degrading and inhumane hard labor. I was sentenced to serve 3-year prison term for reason of protest to the police when they killed my baby. In the prison, I was engaged in producing uniforms and boots for the North Korean policemen. When we walked in the vegetable farm of the prison, we did our best to steal some vegetable leaves and hide it in the clothes for eating them raw later. We struggled to pick up the remains of apples eaten and thrown by guards. The condition of the prison was such that I would have not survived the 3-year prison term if I were not released after one year and six months under a special amnesty. After one year in the prison, I was sent to a tuberculosis ward of another prison No. 20. where I saw dead prisoners almost daily. I defected to China for the second time in March 2002 and am in hiding suffering from health problems from the injuries sustained in North Korea. My only hope today is to seek freedom outside China. Please help! (This woman was helped to a safe haven in a third country in December of 2005.) --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Klaas Barends Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:08:11 +0200 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hankido DVD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >> It is a work in progress >> >> We have shot a lot of new material, but haven't had the time to edit >> everything yet. >> The editing is probably the most time consuming part of the video. > > What are you using to shoot, process and edit? > Just curious... To shoot I use a Canon XL1 camera (which I bought 2nd hand) I edit it on my mac (and old G4 with some extra memory) using Apple's Final Cut Pro software. I probably should have used extra lights when shooting. -- kind regards, Klaas Barends Have a look at: www.hapkido.nl www.hapkidoforum.com www.sangmookwan.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:35:51 -0400 From: "Lasich, Mark D." To: "Dojang" Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Testing Procedures Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dana: I understand the thinking, and almost fully agreed. Again, the ceremonial aspect and the seriousness of testing can really add meaning, and help solidify the impact of rank advancement. On the other hand, for any of the "DO arts", or those that propose to enhance one's way of life, we must encourage, and perhaps even test, the complete development of the entire individual, not just the physical aspect. The concepts of physical, mental and spiritual growth should balance. Emphasis of one over an other may create undesired results. Why memorize and recite tenants and oaths that largely deal with everything but physical skill, then limit our testing to simply evaluating a series of physical movements? Now, is cheering and encouragement from the sidelines an appropriate way to test aspects other than physical skill? That idea can be debated, but for a journey that includes development across multiple dimensions, something that properly reflects those other aspects, for me, is highly desirable. For the analogy: I believe learning math is a purely a mental exercise, appropriately tested, via SATs/ACTs, in a mentally conducive environment, with no spectators. So, that approach does make sense to me. I tend to agree with Michael Thomlinson, who recently stated on this topic: "what good is your training if you can't use it when you are freaked out and under scrutiny, pressure, and prying eyes...IMHO if you can't perform under those circumstances then you are training wrong and are really just playing around..." In the spirit, Mark >Message: 3 >From: "Dana Vaillancourt" >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:11:57 +0000 >Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Testing Procedures >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >If you want reality, send little Johnny into the rough part of town with a >wad of cash and if he gets out, he passes. A formal testing can add stress >which people have to function through. Cheering from the sidelines sounds >like testing is a commercial event that lacks seriousness. I do not object >to family and friends watching, but sit and be quiet so Johnny can do his >thing. That of course is just my opinion. I also do not think letting mom >and dad come and watch little Johnny take his SATs or ACTs appropriate >either though, but he probably will have to be able to math in the real >world with other people making noise around him. > >Dana --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:55:21 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Celeste Fisher Hey its cool to see someone here from my area. You are in Marshall. I am from Longview. Where do you train JC _________________________________________________________________ It’s tax season, make sure to follow these few simple tips http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMMartagline --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:17:28 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] 10 medals Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net U.S. Competitors Win 10 Medals at Dutch Open March 29, 2007 American athletes took home 10 medals from last weekend's 34th Dutch Open Taekwondo Championships in Eindhoven, Netherlands. Claiming gold were Anees Hasnain in female junior finweight and Jarred McKee in male junior bantamweight. Silver medalists were Jaysen Ishida in male junior featherweight, Sammy Saltamachia in female junior bantamweight and Brandi Powers in female junior light heavyweight. The five U.S. bronze medalists were Muwwakkil Nazara in female junior heavyweight, Sean Aston in male junior featherweight, Taylor Stone in female senior heavyweight, Jon Perieda in male senior finweight and Taylor Thornton in junior male heavyweight. --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Burn Out To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Victor.E.Dodge@jci.com Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:17:44 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have given more thought to my original suggestion of "suspending" the rank of 5th dan. I based it on the handling of lower rank students who fall strictly under the authority and discretion of the head instructor. This being the equivelant of a "time out" for an adult, I think it is inappropriate. However, the institution that issued the 5th dan, as well as the Grandmaster/Master who trained or recommended this individual for 5th dan may be interested to learn of his recent change in behaviour and may be able to reach him. The influence they may have with this individual would be greater than that of his peers, if he holds any respect for his chosen art. Respectfully yours, Victor burdickd@indiana. edu To 03/29/2007 07:58 the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, AM the_dojang@martialartsresource.net cc Please respond to Subject the_dojang@martia [The_Dojang] RE: Burn Out lartsresource.net The 5th dan in question definitely needs to be reminded of the rules of the dojang regarding behavior and uniform. Every dojang has different rules of course, but at yours it does sound like he is not living up to his responsibilities to the students. However, I did not like the suggestion of "suspending" his 5th dan. If a black belt is, as is often cited, like a college degree, then it cannot be suspended or removed. The mere suggestion bothers me, probably because it reminds me of the movie "Searching for Bobby Fischer." One's rank, to me, cannot be removed. One's association with a particular organization CAN, although one would hope that such a drastic action would only be precipitated by the 5th dan abusing his position in some way, or being convicted of some crime with which the organization doesn't want to be associated. Hui-Son Choe (http://www.worldhapkido.com/master_choe.html) pleaded guilty to first-degree manslaughter in 2001 for killing Ki-Gol Lee with a katana outside Choe's dojang, but the World Hapkido Association still touts him on their website. [Noel S. Brady, "Martial arts master pleads guilty in samurai sword slaying of Bellevue Man," King County Journal, June 7, 2001.] If that is the case, then perhaps showing up in street clothes at a test may not qualify for removing him from your organization. Asking him not to come to future tests without proper attire and attitude would definitely seem in order. Midlife is a time for changes, not just crises. Perhaps t'aegweondo is not his art any more. If that is the case, give him some time to find himself, and perhaps he will continue to be both a friend and a useful partner in the martial arts. Yours in the arts, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com PS: In writing this, I discovered that GM Chung Kee-Tae's book on hapkido has either been rereleased or revised. It is listed at http://www.amazon.com/Hapkido-Master-Chung-Kee-Tae/dp/1897307756/ref=sr_1_14/ 103-3146323-6012620?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175171916&sr=1-14 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest