Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:58:31 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #105 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: High Belts Hurting Lower Belts in Sparring (Anna Weltman) 2. WTF & ITF news (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Anna Weltman" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] High Belts Hurting Lower Belts in Sparring Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 16:11:23 +0300 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi, thanks very much. These are very good suggestions. I will watch myself too and see if maybe I am hitting so hard that I'm eliciting an aggressive response from my colleagues. Also, I will talk to the instructor. Mabye learning more techniques will help me deal wit the aggressive sparrers, etc...and it will surely help me get better on the whole. I don’t thin there are other kuk sool classes around my area so I'd hate to quit. In general, thanks to everyone on this list for the variety of suggestions and perspectives. Anna -----Original Message----- From: E. Montgomery [mailto:ebmontgomery@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:13 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] High Belts Hurting Lower Belts in Sparring First of all upper belts must practice control while sparring in our dojang -(believe me you don't want Mr. Amanat to come teach you control), but we also have a saying "I'll go as hard as you go." If you are a beginner, you may not realize that you are not using control with your own techniques. When I am sparring an under belt I will tell them if they are going too hard (I have pins and plates in my neck). If they don't listen, I'll then tell them, okay, I'll go as hard as you go. That usually makes them lighten up. If it is a testing situation (where the student is being pressured to perform, Mr. Amanat will in fact authorize the level of contact - multiple sparring - light contact, one-on-one sparring - medium contact, if the lower belt is trying to hurt the upper belt - look out). When I first started sparring, I also was "bloodied and had the wind knocked out of me." Bloodied because I flinched and turned my head away from contact (hit with a hook kick in the face that otherwise would have caught the side of my helmet) and winded because I did not know how to breathe while sparring. My instructor told me 1) always keep your eyes on your target; and 2) work your conditioning and control your breathing - and he showed me how. Talk to your instructor. I would bet that he would rather have you talk to him than lose a student. You can frame it in such a way that is not offensive. Rather than telling him, "you are not controling your upper belts!" try "can you suggest how I can improve my sparring/add control to my techniques/ learn to control my opponents?" I hope this helps. From: "Anna Weltman" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] KOOK SUL - High belts hurting lower belts in sparring Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:43:50 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My question is this: When practising sparring, how to prevent the higher belts from whopping the 'crap' out of the lower belts? Aren't they suposed to exercise some form of restraint when spar practising with lower belts? I've been bloodied and had the wind knocked out too many times now, but usually the same 4 red belts (there are 5 red belts in my class - 1 blue, 2 yellow and i'm a white) even though I've asked them to please be more lenient on me. The instructor does not incorporate much teaching about restraint, from what I've seen so far. What can I do? Can I ask the teacher to be stricter or is making teaching suggestions to the teacher a no-no? Thanks very much, Anna in Israel ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:38:43 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] WTF & ITF news Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net WTF, ITF Hold 1st Meeting of Coordination Committee for Taekwondo Integration in Beijing April 3 The World Taekwondo Federation and the International Taekwon-Do Federation held their first meeting of the Coordination Committee for Taekwondo Integration in Beijing, China, on March 31, 2007. The meeting is the results of a Mutual Agreement between WTF President Chungwon Choue and Mr. Ung Chang, president of the ITF, in Doha, Qatar, on Dec. 2, 2006. The two takwondo bodies held four rounds of working-level talks for the full-fledged meeting, with the first working-level talk taking place on June 27-28, 2005 in Beijing. At the Beijing meeting, the Coordination Committee for Taekwondo Integration was officially formed, with Mr. Dai-soon Lee, vice president of the WTF, and Mr. Ryu Song-il, chairman of the Merger Committee of the ITF, as its co-chairmen. For the talk, the WTF fielded a six-member delegation, led by Mr. Lee. The other delegates were WTF Secretary General Jin Suk Yang, Mr. Kyu-seok Lee, member of the WTF Council, Mr. Kyong-myong Lee, chairman of the WTF Education Committee; Mr. Manseek Choe, deputy secretary general of the WTF; and Mr. Seok-jae Kang, director of the WTF PR Division. The ITF also sent a six-member contingent, headed by Mr. Ryu. The others were Mr. Ri Yong-son, executive director general of the ITF; Mr. Ro Yong-sok, chairman of the ITF Technical Committee; Mr. Anto Nobilo, member of the ITF Merger Committee; Mr. Won Se-yon, member of the ITF Technical Committee; and Mr. O Won-il, member of the ITF Merger Committee. The two parties confirmed their respective positions on the mission, authority and operation procedures of the Coordination Committee for Taekwondo Integration. Other than the exchange of materials related to taekwondo poomsae and kyorugi, both parties decided to deal with technical matters first, in the hope of producing tangible results. The two parties also agreed to decide on the date and venue of the next meeting through consultations later with each other. At the meeting, the WTF delegation also suggested its three basic principles as follows: - The WTF respects the Olympic Charter and its regulations to embody the basic principles of the Olympic Movement. - The WTF is committed to the development of taekwondo. - The WTF respects the order and the rules and regulations of international sports federations. In this regard, the WTF made it clear at the meeting that all the agreed matters at the Coordination Committee shall take effect upon approval of the two taekwondo federations' highest decision-making bodies, such as the Executive Council and the General Assembly. "It is important for the WTF to abide by the decision of its highest authority, the General Assembly. The approval process is also in line with the Dec. 2 Mutual Agreement stipulating the respect of the parties' agreement on June 28, 2005," said WTF Vice President Lee. He said, "In the meantime, we will review the ITF's partial set of materials on taekwondo poomsae and kyorugi, which we received in Beijing. Nonetheless, I wish to emphasize that we require the ITF's full set of materials to better understand the differences between the WTF and the ITF, before we decide on the second meeting of the Coordination Committee." --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest