Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 02:58:24 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #109 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: value of unification (sidtkd@aol.com) 2. RE: WTF & ITF news (Thomas Gordon) 3. More WTF & ITF-NK news (The_Dojang) 4. video clip: BJJ vs hapkido (Jye nigma) 5. Re: video clip: BJJ vs hapkido (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: sidtkd@aol.com Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 07:52:56 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: value of unification Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Certainly combining the two tkd's will make it beyond a doubt the preeminent martial art in the world. But what will be the end result I wonder? Will the forms get watered down again? Will there be a move to make more technique applicable to street situation as opposed to sword based fighting? Will unification incorporate more grappling technique and other related styles such as Moo Duk Kwan and Shotokan??? Or is this just an end run to prevent the growth of Karate & to solidify a market base for Korea? Just when I learned my forms up to ILYO! Sid ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Thomas Gordon" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] WTF & ITF news Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:20:06 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I read stories like this and wonder what the other ITF's think of it. Seems not to be any warm fuzzies from one ITF to another but most seem to really dislike the leadership at ITF-NK. Not sure what impact that would have on ITF-C and ITF-V if WTF and ITF-NK merge. I don't think anyone really believes ITF-NK will be in the driver's seat and end up more like an absorption than a merger. Things may have been differently if General Choi was alive and ITF was at it's height in numbers and power. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:25:21 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] More WTF & ITF-NK news Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net N. Korean IOC member hopes Pyeongchang will host 2014 Winter Olympics Chuncheon, South Korea Yonhap News North Korea's only member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said Saturday he hopes that Pyeongchang will host the 2014 Winter Olympic Games, and that this weekend's North Korean taekwondo demonstration will help unify the two Koreas. "This event (taekwondo demonstration) will help the two world governing bodies of taekwondo merge, and will increase signs to realize the unification of the two Koreas," said Chang Ung, the North Korean IOC member, in a news conference held in Hoban Gymnasium in Chuncheon. "There cannot be two world governing bodies of a sport that have the same root in one Korean Peninsula." "I hope Pyeongchang brings the 2014 Winter Olympic Games to this country," he added. Pyeongchang, a city in Gangwon Province, is competing with two other candidate cities to host the Olympiad. The host city will be determined at an IOC general assembly meeting in Guatemala on July 4. "As you know, the IOC has an ethics commission and an ethics code, so I am sorry that I can't say anything regarding the other candidate cities," said Chang. "In my personal opinion, Pyeongchang has been working well with a well-organized committee, and their activities were systematic," he said. "My advice to the three candidate cities will be to do your best or utmost until the last minute," he added. Asked on details of North Korea's detailed plan to help Pyeongchang, he said, "My letter to the Pyeongchang committee is in the bid file submitted by Pyeongchang. That letter fully explained my stance." Kim Jin-sun, the governor of Gangwon Province, also attended the news conference and explained that in the letter, Mun Jae-duk, president of North Korean Olympic Committee, expressed his full support for Pyeongchang's bid, saying that if Pyeongchang wins the bid, they will consider a joint training session for athletes from the two Koreas. Regarding the sports talks by the two Koreas to field single team for the upcoming Beijing Olympic Games next year, Chang said, "I live in Vienna, Switzerland, so I don't know the details of the talks, but I heard that the talks have gone well up until now." Chang is expected to discuss a possible merger of the South Korean and North Korean-led world governing bodies of Korea's traditional martial art, taekwondo. Concurrently head of the International Taekwondo Federation (ITF), Chang arrived on a direct flight from the North's capital, Pyongyang, on Friday morning and then traveled to Chuncheon, 85 kilometers east of Seoul, for a North Korean taekwondo demonstration. The demonstration by the 30-member North Korean taekwondo team was held in Hoban Gymnasium. Four news reporters from North Korea covered the event, but declined to give comments. This is Chang's first visit to South Korea since he attended the Daegu Universiade in August 2003. Meanwhile, Chang will also visit the headquarters of the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF), run by South Korean officials, in southern Seoul at noon on Sunday for a meeting with Choue Chung-won, head of the federation. Chang and Choue signed an agreement in Doha, Qatar in December to form a body to discuss the administrative and technical mergers of the two groups. Officials from the two world governing bodies held the first meeting of the coordinating commission in Beijing, China, for two days from March 31. The WTF was inaugurated in Seoul in 1973 and became an official umbrella organization of the IOC with a membership of 179 national associations, while the ITF was launched seven years earlier, also in the South Korean capital. ITF founder Choi Hong-hi later immigrated to Canada and named Chang as his successor in 2002. Chang and the taekwondo delegation are to return home on Monday by direct flight from Seoul to Pyongyang. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] video clip: BJJ vs hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciYtazMQE4 --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] video clip: BJJ vs hapkido To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ciYtazMQE4 The BJJ person is Rorion Gracie, looks like many years ago, in his prime. Rorion's job was to fight a lot and teach a little. Finally his little brother Royce came along to do the fighting. The Hapkido instructor is ??? Does anyone recognize this guy? He looks to be a nameless TKD guy that doesn't know how to angle right and throw a head punch. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest