Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:58:30 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #123 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Friends (kwan jang) 2. Re: RE: Twisting Punch (Jye nigma) 3. RE: just a few things (michael tomlinson) 4. Re pictures (Beungood8@aol.com) 5. Twisting Punches Continued (Warrior Spirit Martial Arts) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "kwan jang" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:27:50 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Friends Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Whalen writes: << Hello Master Timmerman , It has been awhile since we talked or wrote .I hope all is well in your Camp and up north, by the way congratulations on the Successful seminar.>> Hello Master Whalen. It has indeed been a while since we communicated, and I also sorely miss our chats about life. I am sure that our chats about love are things we best keep to ourselves lol. You never know how folks take to that kind of talk, and I would not want to ruin your good reputation hahahah. Thanks for the well wishes on the seminar in Crestview. Thanks to the excellent host we had, it went off well. Like all new events, we have some work to do, but it looks very very promising. The best thing I found is that there was absolutely no ego to be found anywhere, and that is unfortunately a rare thing these days. My friend, I hope life is back to near normal for you, and I also hope that (now you are back into martial arts) our paths will cross again real soon. How does a trip to Canada sound. We have some great snakebite medicine to ward off any snow snakes we might encounter. Warmest personal regards, Rudy --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:31:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: Twisting Punch To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi simon and thanks for your explanation. What stood out to me, was comparing the human body to a water balloon. My thought is although the body is made up of a large percentage of water, we're not like a water balloon at all, so their explanation seemed inaccurate to me. Jye Simon Bland wrote: The relevant variables, from a physics perspective, are: 1) The mass involved in the punch. 2) The speed of the punch. 3) The time between impact and the punch coming to a stop. 4) The quality of the surface being struck - rigid or flexible? Striking with a reverse punch allows you to use more of your mass in the strike than a straight jab. This assumes good stance and good form, of course. The speed of the strike is variable to the martial artist - some punch faster than others. The time between impact and the punch stopping is relevant because it determines the dispersal of energy to the target. If your punch penetrates 2 inches into someone's gut before stopping, that is going to deliver less energy than if you only penetrate say 1/4th of an inch, because the time elapsing between impact and the punch coming to rest is significantly shorter. Quality of the surface is relevant to energy delivery. Something with a lot of flexibility is going to convert the force you deliver into radiating vectors from impact, and into heat via friction, so your total strike is less damaging. This is why a punch to the collarbone is more effective than a punch to the stomach. The bit about spiral energy and about the percentage of water content in the human body strikes me as pretty much BS. The reverse punch is stronger than a jab because there is more mass behind the strike, due to how you twist into it with your whole body. The relative hydration of your target couldn't be less relevant IMO. As far as penetrating power, you generally want less penetration, not more, so that seems a little suspect too. Cheers Simon _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] just a few things Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:44:40 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Whalen, (Hal), Please tell Timmy I said hello and to stay safe when he leaves..and I wish I could run into him for some good Hapkido sometime....do me a favor and show all the guys my finger trick at dinner...you know the one...ha ha...tell all the waitresses I said Hello,, and Hapki!! to my Boston brothers..... Michael Tomlinson >From: Horold whalen >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] just a few things >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:19:44 -0700 (PDT) > > Hello Master Timmerman , It has been awhile since we talked or wrote .I >hope all is well in your Camp and up north, by the way congratulations on >the Successful seminar. > > Master Timmerman is a Class act and One we all look up to ( plus he is >taller then me ) I miss some of his talks about life ,and love etc........ >I consider myself lucky to have met him . > > Also A quick hello To my Friend Master J.R West the man Who kept out of >Prison ha ha ..... Only he and Holcombe know what I mean > > Speaking of Holcombe he is currently in Korea visiting Master Kim Nam >Jae , and the KHF headquarters for some meetings > > The three men I mentioned are all Older than me ,But I am much better >looking and they know that and respect me for it ha ha ha ha......... > > To those that know crazy Tim Walsh he is back after his Volunteer trip >or assignment to Iraq ,He is home in one piece and back on the Mat until he >heads back to a brief stateside assignment before He once again Heads for >To Coronado , > > Jack O call me or drop, Rick, Mike F a Quick note we are going out With >Tim before he heads West To the left coast > > > >--------------------------------- >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:36:08 EDT To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re pictures Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 4/18/2007 8:48:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: From: Horold whalen To: Dojang Digest Subject: [The_Dojang] Article Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Master Allison thank you for your thinking about an article about senior Masters in America , I would have to decline All of my Doboks are raggy and I do not have any New ones for pictures ,So it rules me out and I have very few pictures of me with any Celebrity's Actually ,the only pictures i have of me are Think I'd worry about the haircut first....... ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Warrior Spirit Martial Arts" To: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:00:36 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Twisting Punches Continued Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Another Theory that has been explained to me in the past regarding twisting and more emphasis through my training in Gicheon is the theory of YeokGeun. The theory has been taught as follows: When people exercise, they build up the muscles on the outside part of the arm, and ignore the under part of the arm, which remains soft and flaccid. To lock the wrist joints in the Yeok Geun position, the muscles on the inside, or under part of the arm must work as hard as the muscles on the outside or upper part. It's a kind of pushing/pulling action whereby the tension of opposing muscles groups -Yeum and Yang, if you will -- strengthen each other. Another purpose of YeokGeun is to generate the free-flow of Gi. The principle here is that the joints are like passages to let Gi easily flow into all areas of the body-- when they aren't properly stretched, the Gi becomes stagnant. Yeok Geon opens up the joints, releasing this Gi into the rest of the body. The full article can be found at http://www24.brinkster.com/thefringe/ Travis --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest