Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:58:32 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #130 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hankido Questions (Hankido) 2. RE: training in the Florida area (Brian Long) 3. Sanchin (SlaneSavage) 4. Alternative weapons (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:22:14 -0700 From: Hankido To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Hankido Questions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Several questions about hankido emerged, I will try to answer them >Very interesting. Heavily influenced by Aikido I assume??? > >Question about the falling. The theory behind why the feet go backward during the Back Falls...I'm curious! and >Overall, what is the difference between hankido and hapkido? 1. About the falling. It is hard to make your back round with your legs straight. This way it is easier to absorb your fall. It is also the way I have always been taught in hapkido 2. If hankido was heavily influenced by aikido? I don't know. I have never done aikido. (there are also very many styles of aikido, so I am sure that some of the things I will say don't apply to every aikido style out there) Of course there are some external similarities and also the principles used are the same. But traditional hapkdio and aikido also claim to use the same principles, still the techniques can be very different. Hankido differs from hapkido in the fact that they emphasize the use of the principles of Won, Hwa and Yu much stronger (IMHO). Hankido differs from aikido (for as far as I can see) that we usually don't let go of the opponent and wait for him to come again. We finish the job as soon as possible. Also, as you can see on the video, we teach a wide variety of kicks. Something you don't regularly see in aikido. Hankido teaches 12 basic self defense techniques (seen in their most basic form on the video), which can be adapted to different situations. The techniques themselves aren't that important, they act as a learning tool for the student. He/she should learn to react naturally against any attack. Hope this clears it a bit. -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.sangmookwan.com/ http://www.hapkidoforum.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:16:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Long Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] training in the Florida area To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In Jacksonville, FL there is Paks Karate, where GM Song Ki Pak teaches himself. Paks Karate Academy is one of the Largest Tang Soo Do Schools in America today michael tomlinson wrote: Howard, Hey if you are gonna be in the Ocala area there are some good schools around there too...Ocala isn't that bad of a town....pretty nice actually..if you want to get into some good HKD from an instructor that knows his stuff and is a great guy you could check out Fabian Duque's Dojang...he is a member of the KHF and also does a lot of kicking....that would be a fantastic Dojang for you and close to where you will be.. Fabian has a nice Dojang in Ocala....Fabian is a good guy and won't try to kill you but will work your ass off....his website is: www.daehanhapkidoacademy.com/ tell him Mike Tomlinson recommended you to him...he's a good friend of mine and Master Whalens... Michael Tomlinson p.s....Tampa area is further from Ocala than you might think...would be a long drive to work out several times a week...traffic down here can be brutal sometimes... >From: howard@one.net >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] training in the Florida area >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:48:40 -0400 (EDT) > >Thanks for the info guy’s. My friend is relocating to the Miami area not >ME!! I have another friend that has a house in the OKALA area (spelling >please) that I am going to go do some work on while I was in the area so >that was why I was looking into the Tampa area. Seems to be the closes >major area around there. Mr. Gordon if you are in the area I would like to >stop in. I like what you post to this form. Mr. Tomlinson thanks for any >help I just knew you were from the Florida area (yea it is a BIIGG state). >Mr. Nabors would be a great person to meet and from what I have read here >would like to kick my assss in gear. Always travel with a plain GI and >white belt. > >Message: 14 >From: "Thomas Gordon" >To: >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Help in Florida >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:06:15 -0500 >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Many miles in between Miami and Tampa. About 300 I'd venture to guess. >Being on the far northwest corner (panhandle), I'm about 10-12 hours from >Miami. > >If Bradenton isn't too far out of the way, Mr. DaCruz is an excellent >instructor. He's also an ITF fourth degree. I traveled with Grand Master >Hwang to his school a few years ago and he insisted I stay at his home. >Very gracious man and solid technique. Since he is of Brazilian decent, he >also teaches Capoeira. I only have his cell number so contact me off list >if you'd like more information. tgordon@gordonmartialarts.com > >Thomas Gordon >FloridaMessage: 17 >From: "michael tomlinson" >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Help in Florida >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:58:10 +0000 >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > >Howard, >One of my brothers, Master Rick Nabors lives in the Tampa area and knows >quite a few of the old school TKD and other Martial Arts schools in that >area....I'll get a hold of him and see if he has any recommendations for >you...it might take a little bit...he is out of the country a lot...the >Miami area is pretty much off my radar... I don't really know any face to >face people down there that I could recommend but I'm sure there are plenty >of good schools...heck the Miami area is HUGE....BUT...some of the stories >you have heard up North are probably true so just beware of some of the >areas and ask around down there...I grew up in Dayton Ohio...soooo I have >somewhat of an old drunken perspective of Cincinnati...LOL..the old >riverfront, concerts, bengals, reds games..puking at Kings Island, going to >eden park to the museums....Univ. of Cin. campus..and my sister used to >live >on the west side by Indiana and that huge friggin mall....and some other >places around downtown I'll leave out.....great city..but like >Miami...there >are places that you will get killed in...right??? > Michael Tomlinson >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:58:26 +0100 (BST) From: SlaneSavage To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sanchin Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Just curious, how may TSD MDK schools include Sanchin Hyung / kata in their curriculum Also I am currently researching Sanchin, Sei shan and Tensho - Do you practice these hyung, - if yes, can you send me video? Thanks Slane NB Master Stovall Thanks for your reply to a previous post, I wish you all the best ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Subject: [The_Dojang] Alternative weapons Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Alternative Weapons policeone.com By Ralph Mroz There are times when you either choose not to, or can't carry a firearm while off-duty. In theory, the recently-enacted federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) allows active and retired police officers to carry handguns nationwide. Certainly this law, coupled with the fact that most officers don't mind other officers being armed in their jurisdiction, will get you a long way. However, there are still some wrinkles being worked out in the implementation of the law, particularly in regard to retired officers. And, there are some jurisdictions where the political atmosphere and the attitude of the politically-appointed police brass make it more likely that you'll get an unfriendly reception to being armed. Of course, there are places where you can't be legally armed: airports, etc. And, there are times in which you may simply choose not to be armed. Most of us don't strap on our gun to run to the grocery store. There are several weapons that you can easily carry. Let's review a few and touch on some things to avoid. Empty hands Yes, good old basic empty-hand skills. These can get you a long way, and the fact is you should have them already! You need them for three reasons. First, in many bad situations where you'd like to access a higher level weapon, (your OC, Taser, baton or gun) you simply won't have time due to the spontaneous nature of the attack. You will thus be forced to deal with the attack with empty hands either entirely, or initially to gain time to access your weapon. Second, empty-hand skills—power generation, balance, movement, flow etc—are the basis of higher-level weapon skills. The coordination and balance you develop with empty-hand skills help you move better when you have to shoot, or use any other weapon. Firearms instructors often notice that martial artists pick up gun skills more quickly than people with no empty-hands background. Third, let's not forget that most of the time we have to mix it up with subjects, we do so "hands-on". We use our empty hand skills a lot already on the job. You don't need to be a black-belt or invest years of study to acquire effective empty-hand skills. The street-realistic, reality-based combat systems that have sprung up go by the generic name of combatives, and many of these systems are very good indeed. Chances are there's a school near you where you can learn a lot in a short time. High-intensity light Yeah, your flashlight! Surefire, Blackhawk, Pentagonlight, Pelican and others make a wide variety of small high-intensity lights. You most likely already have one…or several. You should always carry one with you while on duty, and one with you whenever you are out after dark off-duty. These 60+ lumen lights are force multipliers for any other weapon you have—fighting someone who's blinded by them is a lot easier. And while they aren't really force tools in and of themselves, they can act a lot like one. Flashing their light in an attacker's eyes can provide you precious seconds to escape, access a weapon or initiate a surprise counterattack. OC In some instances you may be able to carry pepper spray when you can't carry a gun. Small canisters of it can easily be carried even if you are only wearing swim trunks. Cane/Walking Stick You are superbly armed with nothing more than a simple stick if you know how to use it. If you have ever seen the martial arts of Arnis, Escrima or Kali, you may have come to the same conclusion. These exquisite Filipino arts are stick-based and they turn a simple stick into a blazing blur of deadly (or non-deadly) weaponry. Check out your local area, for a school teaching these arts. While the Filipino stick arts favor a light, medium-length stick, some Western based stick systems favor a heavy, longer stick. In addition to their excellent line of edged weapons, Cold Steel (www.coldsteel.com) puts out a series of fighting canes and walking sticks, and a set of instructional videos for their use. You may run across cane-fighting systems based on a cane with a larger crook. I'm not convinced about these, however, as the systems I've seen are fairly elaborate and rely too much on snagging your assailant with the crook—something that seems far easier in the training hall than on the street. A knife Most of us carry a folding knife. A pocket- or waistband-clipped folder with a 3- to 4-inch rapidly opening blade is a formidable weapon, as most of us know from the classic police training film, Surviving Edged Weapons. If you want to know how to use it defensively, I recommend four easy methods. First, remember those Filipino stick schools I mentioned above? Well, in the Filipino arts, the stick is the tool used by beginners, but it really represents a machete or a knife. So these schools not only provide you with stick training, but knife training as well. Second, the Police Officers Safety Association offers a basic tutorial on knife skills for law enforcement to any verified police officer. Just go to the website (www.posai.org) which will verify your law enforcement status with PoliceOne.com, and you can download the entire 90-minute video program for free. Third, Cold Steel also has excellent knife training tapes. Fourth, Paladin Press (www.paladin-press.com) has quite a selection of good knife combatives video programs.Stick with a basic, ordinary, one-handed opening knife. Avoid odd or unusually shaped knifes. Also, avoid switchblades because many states outlaw them, federal law restricts them, and they really aren't a lot faster to open than you can learn to accomplish with a regular one-handed opening folder. The Taser C2 Taser International has just introduced a new citizen Taser that is not shaped like a pistol. It is meant to be a one-time use device for citizen self-defense, as opposed to the Tasers carried on duty. It fires a 15-foot cartridge with a 50 (yes — 50!) second duty cycle. It is meant to be fired, dropped and to provide you with a 50-second window of escape. The Taser C2 is legal in a lot of states and it has an attractive $300 price tag. What not to carry There's a ton of information and misinformation about self-defense weapons. In making your choice, remember that any alternate weapon you carry for defense has to meet three criteria. It must be easy to carry and simple to deploy; it must be effective and it must be legal. Items like Kubutons can certainly be used to great effect by experts, but they will just get in the way for most people. Things like sap hats (yes, you can buy a hat with a sewn-in lead weight) or caustic aerosol sprays may seem cool, but they can land you in trouble after the fact. Martial arts weapons like nunchuckos or brass knuckles are illegal in many places. A word about pens—ordinary writing pens. We all know that these simple items can be turned into deadly weapons if need be. There are now some talented people selling special all-steel or all-titanium pens to be so used. Two comments: 1) any sturdy pen will probably serve as in improvised emergency self-defense weapon, and 2) don't rely on a pen or any improvised weapon to save the day—it's real purpose is as a force multiplier. Without empty-hand skill, its value is close to zero. Self-defense is a system, not a technique. You need basic empty-hand skills as a foundation. Don't believe that your weapon—whatever it is—will save the day. Don't forget that self-defense is fighting, and you need to be able to fight. Sandals and loose shoes will land you on your butt rapidly in a fight, so wear lace-up shoes whenever you are out. Don't attract trouble by wearing anything flashy or expensive—blend into your environment. And don't wear anything that identifies you as a cop, including those popular tactical pants and shirts. Not only do you lose the element of surprise should you be attacked, you are sending an invitation to be singled out in situations such as a robbery or hostage-taking. Last, carry your badge and ID with you, but not in your wallet! If you carry it there, it can be seen whenever you pay for something. Worse, if your wallet is taken during a robbery or hijacking, you have just identified yourself as someone who ought to be "put out of the way." Carry your badge and ID in a separate badge wallet in an out-of-the-way pocket. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest