Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:58:39 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #168 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Hapkido Uniforms... (J. Thomas Howard) 2. Re: Hapkido Uniforms... (Jye nigma) 3. Re: dobok design (Jon Payne) 4. Re: Re: Korean sword (Jye nigma) 5. dobok designs (freddie bishop) 6. Re: dobok designs (Ray) 7. Re: Hapkido Uniforms... (michael tomlinson) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "J. Thomas Howard" To: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 06:35:18 -0500 Organization: Nebraska Hapkido Association Subject: [The_Dojang] Hapkido Uniforms... Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jye wrote: > wonder why some hapkido folks don't use the hapkido uniforms > (looks like a matress design)? I heard they were supposed to > be extra tuff for grabbing. Probably because that particular type of design is only a "hapkido" design because some marketer wanted to create a new product for an as-yet unneeded purpose. It certainly isn't like it is traditional by any means (for any given value of "traditional", given that the art is only about 60-65 years old). As to "extra tuff for grabbing," many styles simply use uniforms made of 12-oz weight cloth (or 14oz), or if they really need it, Judo uniform tops. Thomas H. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 6/1/2007 11:22 AM --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:51:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hapkido Uniforms... To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I'll tell you one thing, you learn something everyday, because they had me completely fooled...lol. Jye "J. Thomas Howard" wrote: Probably because that particular type of design is only a "hapkido" design because some marketer wanted to create a new product for an as-yet unneeded purpose. It certainly isn't like it is traditional by any means (for any given value of "traditional", given that the art is only about 60-65 years old). As to "extra tuff for grabbing," many styles simply use uniforms made of 12-oz weight cloth (or 14oz), or if they really need it, Judo uniform tops. Thomas H. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 6/1/2007 11:22 AM _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Jon Payne" To: "The_Dojang" Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 09:54:10 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: dobok design Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >>wonder why some hapkido folks don't use the hapkido uniforms (looks like a >>matress design)? I heard they were supposed to be extra tuff for grabbing. Jye>> The Hapkido doboks I have seen have been made for looks and will not hold up to grabbing or cause injury, especially to the neck. Judo or Jiu Jitsu Kimono Gis are much better for grabbing and grappling. J. Payne --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Korean sword To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I wonder what would happen if someone found a martial art manual from ancient times, and it listed a fighting system called x-y-z. I wonder how many schools would pop up claiming to know this system? lol. Jye Hankido wrote: >True, but what about before this manual was created? what were the korean's swords/fighting systems like? Before that they used a manual called: Mu Ye Shin Bo and before that one they had the Mu Ye Je Bo. The Mu Ye Je Bo was compiled after/during the Japanese invasion by Hideyoshi, the seven year war and based on Chinese techniques as well. How the Koreans fought before that ... we don't know (or know very very little about). -- kind regards, Klaas Barends http://www.mooyesa.com/ _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:04:19 -0700 (PDT) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] dobok designs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sid Why do you feel the MDK dobok is the better than all others? Fred ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] dobok designs To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 13:54:22 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Sid > Why do you feel the MDK dobok is the better than all > others? I'm not Sid, but I -suspect- he feels as I do that the look of the MDK dobok is appealing. The black (midnight blue) trim is rather striking. Popular amoung MDKers, but also used in other styles, e.g. Hapkido. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hapkido Uniforms... Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:41:34 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net the "original" Hapkido uniform as far as I can tell and from talking to some of the golden oldies in the HKD world was a plain white judo gi..... Michael Tomlinson >From: Jye nigma >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Hapkido Uniforms... >Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 07:51:21 -0700 (PDT) > >I'll tell you one thing, you learn something everyday, because they had me >completely fooled...lol. > > Jye > >"J. Thomas Howard" wrote: > >Probably because that particular type of design is only a >"hapkido" design because some marketer wanted to create a >new product for an as-yet unneeded purpose. It certainly >isn't like it is traditional by any means (for any given >value of "traditional", given that the art is only about >60-65 years old). > >As to "extra tuff for grabbing," many styles simply use >uniforms made of 12-oz weight cloth (or 14oz), or if they >really need it, Judo uniform tops. > > >Thomas H. > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release >Date: 6/1/2007 11:22 AM >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss an email again! >Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. 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