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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Sex, Fighting & Kara-te (Burdick, Dakin Robert) 2. Doug and seminars (Luther Veuleman) 3. Re: Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training (Victor.E.Dodge@jci.com) 4. Stripes (Luther Veuleman) 5. RE: Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training (PETER.MCDONALDSMITH@london-fire.gov.uk) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:39:29 -0400 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: , Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Sex, Fighting & Kara-te Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net JC wrote: People just need to realize the term Karate is generic. Not specific like Soo Bahk Do, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Jui-Jitsu, Aikido, IsinRyu My reply: I'm going to agree with Rick and everyone who said that karate-do is not generic. It is a Japanese term and depending on the kanji used to write it, could be either "empty hands way" or "Chinese hands way," which is why we have Kongsudo and Tangsudo in Korean. Alain also makes a good point that "karate" was and is a generic term in America for Asian kickboxing or perhaps for Japanese kickboxing if one is a little more enlightened, in the same way that the Chinese wrestle with the term "kung-fu" in America. On the other hand, in a Daoist sense, JC might be on to something. When we first learn of martial arts, it is all karate. When we practice it in earnest, it becomes specific styles and techniques. And if we practice a long time, we borrow ideas from so many other arts and styles and people that we change our style. Some of us do that deliberately and revel in eclecticism, while others try to remain as "traditional" as possible, but everyone changes their art and makes it their own in some way. I think all of us realize at some point that naming the art is more about branding or accepting rules of practice or competition, than about the art itself. If our ultimate aim in training is shared, then we share the art, and one person's karate is another's hapkido or judo. To that end, here's a brief list of aims in training that I use when describing the arts. Am I missing anything? 1. Combat -- could be unarmed or armed 2. Defense -- with a variety of different rules, depending on the laws of the land and one's role (ie. military, civilian, police, etc) 3. Performance -- again, with a variety of criteria for judging. 4. Sport -- again, different rules for different sports 5. Health -- modified by culture 6. Spiritual -- ditto Finally, the argument about sex and fighting ability was pretty much destroyed by boxers in the first half of the twentieth century. After the sexual revolution of the 1920s, a lot of boxers started being more open about their sexual relations, and it became clear that some of the champions were having a lot of those. I'm sure Joe Louis wished the Pill had come a lot earlier. His wife got even with him for his indiscretions by adopting all the illegitimate kids that women brought to her. Joe used to swear that the first eight or so were his, but the others were not. It didn't affect his fighting ability, but it sure affected his retirement fund. :) Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. It's free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 -- __--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:42:01 -0400 From: "Rick Clark" Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] (no subject) To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi JC, From: Gladewater SooBahkDo [mailto:gladewatersoobahkdo@msn.com] The way I see it is that the term Karate means empty hand so as long as you are not useing weapons then the term applies. Its just spoken in a Japanese term. People just need to realize the term Karate is generic. Not specific like Soo Bahk Do, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Jui-Jitsu, Aikido, IsinRyu JC [ ] Perhaps I am wrong - but to me Tae Kwon Do is a generic term as is Aikido, Ju-jitsu, and I suspect Hapkido. For example I practice Tae Kwon Do Chung Do Kwan, others practice Tae Kwon Do O Do Kwan. In the same way that some practice Shotokan Karate, or Isshin Ryu Karate. Same for Ju-Jitsu and even Aikido, they make a distinction between Hombu style Aikido and Yoshinkan. As to Karate being only a style that does not use weapons, many styles of Karate use techniques from Kobudo. Rick Clark -- __--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:24:19 -0400 From: aburrese@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Japanese vs Korean language Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ray posted: They are not the same, I agree, but when you want to get people in the door you do what you must. ********************** This is so true.? Even if you look at The Trial of Billy Jack, the second movie in the series and the one where GM Han had a speaking roll, they called Hapkido Karate.? When Billy walked up and saw Jean training with GM Han, he asks "Karate?"? She corrects him and calls it Hapkido, in which he replied that he knew that but questioned her learning it.? Then both Billy and GM Han demonstrate cane techniques. I have an old Billy Jack screenplay at home too that has pictures from the movie and it calls Hapkido Korean Karate as well.? In general, Karate was known as an Asian martial art, so it was used for anything just so people would know what it was.? Chuck Norris was teaching "karate" after he came back from Korea with his Tang Soo Do black belt. Unfortunately, it is still done today for marketing reasons.? My new Hapkido Cane dvd set has "from the dojo to the street" in the title.? When I talked to Paladin about this and how Hapkido is Korean?and the correct term?would be?dojang rather than dojo, they said that for marketing, more people know the term dojo, and that is why they wanted it in the title rather than dojang.? I guess one good thing is that in the dvd I mention that dojang is Korean and dojo is Japanese, so I do know the difference.? :-)? I mention it when I almost call a Canemasters Dojo Cane a Dojang Cane because I am used to saying the Korean Dojang, and then I mention they mean the same.? Notice how Canemasters also used the more familiar Dojo for their training canes. So I agree Ray, they are not the same, but sometimes you have to do what you must if it is how you are trying to make a living. Yours in Training, Alain www.burrese.com ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. -- __--__-- Message: 5 From: "Joseph Cheavens" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:46:05 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Also, some of the original five kwan used the term Kong Soo Do - "kong" being the Korean pronunciation for the Chinese character for "empty." So, some used the "Way of the China Hand" and some used the "Way of the Empty Hand" pronunciation for Karate-do. I would guess that the choice of which one was used may have depended on when the particular kwan founder started studying Karate and under whom. Joe Cheavens -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] (no subject) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:40:56 -0500 The use of the term Kara-Te. First lets look at the meaning of the word. Prior to 1936 in Okinawa the word or term "Kara" ment China and "Te" ment hand or China hand as a referrance that Okinawan martial arts had come from China. In 1936 Funikoshi chnaged the meaning of the term Kara to mean empty so that Karate meant Empty hand. Later after the Japanese occupation of Korea The original 5 Kwans sprang up. Hwang Kee originally called his style Hwa Soo Do but later adopted the name Tang Soo which when written is EXACTLY the same as KARATE Tang means China and Soo is Hand I understand some not wanting to use the term Karate, however those same people often use the term Tang Soo. The way I see it is that the term Karate means empty hand so as long as you are not useing weapons then the term applies. Its just spoken in a Japanese term. People just need to realize the term Karate is generic. Not specific like Soo Bahk Do, Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Jui-Jitsu, Aikido, IsinRyu JC _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. It's free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. -- __--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:53:15 -0400 From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Turnverein Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi Folks, Glad to see Rick bringing up the influence of the Turnverein. I did some research on them for my dissertation and actually was at the first Turner fest since 1917 at Indianapolis in the early 1990s. IUPUI has large holdings on the turnverein, whose Normal School for Gymnastics was the origin of Indiana University's Physical Education program. Back in the 1940s, they still had a beer hall and bowling alley downstairs at the Phys Ed program at IUPUI. Now that's an education I could enjoy! :) Von Baelz and his influence on Kano is also discussed in my dissertation, which of course you can purchase through Dissertation Abstracts (hint hint). I guess I ought to get it out in book form sometime soon, huh? Take care, Dakin dakinburdick@yahoo.com [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] -- __--__-- Message: 7 From: "Curt McCauley" To: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:58:46 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Tang Soo Do and Belts. Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net yes, well, i got a good laugh the other night. was watching a show with my better half. it was a drama. the main female character was dating a "karate" teacher. he was a "sensei" who taught in a "dojo", taught the style of "tang soo do" and wore the traditional wrap jacket and gave japanese commands. :) mel In the early days of Karate. It was Kara Te Do. Kara = Tang Dynasty Character Te = Hand Do = The Way ( of course) Funikoshi Changed the first character from the "Tang" to the one that means "Empty" Both are pronounced the same. (Kara ) Seems that during this time in history a Japanese much less an Okinawan could loose his/her head by using terminology that would be pro Chinese. Funakoshi was a smart man. At the end of WW 2, when the 5 Jangs opened up under the different names some wrote the "old" way Tang Soo Do, to let prospective customers know that it was a Martial Arts school. If you mention the phrase Tang Soo Do to an older Korean they will strike one hand against the other and repeat "Tang Soo Do". Also During the 30+ years that Korea was under Japanese rule, only the Japanese language was allowed to be spoken in public. So at least one generation if not two grew up with Japanese terminology. Hence the use of words like Dojo and Sensei in some of the Korean arts, including some Tae Kwon Do schools. Many people could only write in the common japanese hand, and not what is called Han Ja in Korean and Kan Ji (I think) in japanese. These would be the "borrowed" Characters from the Chinese writing. Respectfully Submitted, Curt McCauley Chief Instructor Channel Town Soo Bahk Do -- __--__-- Message: 8 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Subject: [The_Dojang] Karate Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This is one that Webster clearly got right... karate One entry found for karate. Function: noun Etymology: Japanese, from kara empty + te hand : a Japanese art of self-defense employing hand strikes and kicks to disable or subdue an opponent Some will and do use it since it is such a well known word in the western world, but clearly it is not really a generic term. Karate is Japanese. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com -- __--__-- Message: 9 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:43:33 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: belt stripes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net According to my brother, an aikido teacher in Houston. They have only white belts before BB. No colored belts and no striping. It is a common in most traditional aikido dojo. In hapkido, at our dojang, we do not use striping either. Jere R. Hilland, Fargo, ND www.HapkidoSelfDefense.com <<>> -- __--__-- Message: 10 From: "Dugy" To: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:34:49 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] why we wear stripes on our belts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello J. Thomas Howard", Organization: Nebraska Hapkido Association To answer questions as to why we wear stripes on our belts in combat hapkido is as you have yourself answered as a possibility.We wear them as we learn a "different sections of the curriciulum learned, etc. " The stripes are just bands of colored electrical tape, usually the same color as the next belt you are working on.. you get one as you learn a different section of the curriculum for the belt you are working on. Also, on the other side, there are more stripes, these stripes denote that you have passed the exam for the previous belts. So say one has just earned his red belt. To have done this, he needs to get all his previous belts stripes (so he is re-tested in every belt prior to his achieved belt (red)), and as he passes, he is given a stripe with the color of that stripe the same color as the belt he passed untl he gets to his present belt,in this example, he would go as far as the brown belt. Then and only after he has passed his previous belts, can he test for his next belt. Meanwhile the re-testing is going on, we are given other sections of learning, such as rolling, kicking, grappling, boxing, etc.... by the end of the time period, 3-6 months, you must have your act together, that is, know your belt level and test. DougM Combat Hapkido -- __--__-- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:26:09 -0400 From: Tom To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] why we wear stripes on our belts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Dugy, is this unique to your school? Do you know of other Combat Hapkido schools that use stripes? The Combat Hapkido school I attend does not use stripes on the belt except for Black Belts. Dugy wrote: > Hello J. Thomas Howard", > Organization: Nebraska Hapkido Association > > To answer questions as to why we wear stripes on our belts in combat hapkido > is as you have yourself answered as a possibility.We wear them as we learn a > "different sections of the curriciulum > learned, etc. " The stripes are just bands of colored electrical tape, > usually the same color as the next belt you are working on.. you get one as > you learn a different section of the curriculum for the belt you are working > on. Also, on the other side, there are more stripes, these stripes denote that > you have passed the exam for the previous belts. So say one has just earned > his red belt. To have done this, he needs to get all his previous belts > stripes (so he is re-tested in every belt prior to his achieved belt (red)), > and as he passes, he is given a stripe with the color of that stripe the same > color as the belt he passed untl he gets to his present belt,in this example, > he would go as far as the brown belt. Then and only after he has passed his > previous belts, can he test for his next belt. Meanwhile the re-testing is > going on, we are given other sections of learning, such as rolling, kicking, > grappling, boxing, etc.... by the end of the time period, 3-6 months, you must > have your act together, that is, know your belt level and test. > > DougM > Combat Hapkido > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net -- __--__-- Message: 12 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] battlecage Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net JC, I think I will try to make it to this upcoming event. Is there anything I can do for you guys over this way? If ya'll come up the night before, let me know. Do you have any idea if they are going to sell tickets early at a discounted price? Because my wife will want to go, it always costs me double. Charlie -- __--__-- Message: 13 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To my knowledge there've been no scientific studies done on the relationship between sex and athletic performance. Common sense would tell me that there's really no relationship, that it's all "myth." However, if you're sexually active the night before and that cuts into your sleep, then, obviously, your athletic performance is going to suffer. --- ChunjiDo@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/23/2007 9:55:59 AM Central Daylight Time, > the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Ok I have a serious question. I'm sure everyone has heard it if you've > participated in competitions before: No sex before a fight or while in > training. > Is this a real thing or just a myth? Does it really make you weak and > if so > why? is there factual evidence? > > Jye > > i've heard this, too, jye. its based on nietzsche philosophy, jung and > freudian psychology. its the idea of libido. jung sees it as a psychic > energy and > desire. there is a theory that one only has so much of this psychic > energy to > devote to any one activity. we commonly associate libido with sexual > activity. however, if one uses all this energy on one activity, he will > not have any > energy left for other activities which require a great deal of energy. > so...if you go screwing around the night before a fight, youre going to > spend all > your libido/energy on that and be too drained to fight well. > > take care, > melinda :) > > > Melinda Kidder, Owner > Chajonshim Martial Arts & Supply > Supply: _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 > School: _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.445.6636 > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com . > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net > _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- __--__-- Message: 14 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:36:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Anderson Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The idea of sex draining vital energy pre-dates Freud, Jung, and Nietzsche. During the European Rennaisance, the climax of the sex act was often refered to as the "Little Death" as it was thought that you lost some of your vital energy each time, bringing you closer to death. Both Hindu and Buddhist ascetic practices make a big deal out of the relationship between sex and vital energy. One common ascerity practiced to gain more spiritual power was sexual abstinence. Though some -- notably left-handed tantric -- paths, taught the opposite: that sex was a good way to gain spiritual power if done in the correct way. Jeremy Anderson. --- ChunjiDo@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/23/2007 9:55:59 AM Central Daylight Time, > the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Ok I have a serious question. I'm sure everyone has heard it if you've > participated in competitions before: No sex before a fight or while in > training. > Is this a real thing or just a myth? Does it really make you weak and > if so > why? is there factual evidence? > > Jye > > i've heard this, too, jye. its based on nietzsche philosophy, jung and > freudian psychology. its the idea of libido. jung sees it as a psychic > energy and > desire. there is a theory that one only has so much of this psychic > energy to > devote to any one activity. we commonly associate libido with sexual > activity. however, if one uses all this energy on one activity, he will > not have any > energy left for other activities which require a great deal of energy. > so...if you go screwing around the night before a fight, youre going to > spend all > your libido/energy on that and be too drained to fight well. > > take care, > melinda :) > > > Melinda Kidder, Owner > Chajonshim Martial Arts & Supply > Supply: _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 > School: _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.445.6636 > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com . > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net > _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news -- __--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Doug and seminars Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Doug M Hey man, on the Hapkido Seminars, they are offered twice a year down in Jackson Mississippi. Its a full weekend event, and there is one coming up soon. Visit Master JR West's website, at http://www.hapkido.com , and dig around a bit, there's info about his organizations schools, his place and program, as well as seminar flyers and info. I occassionally see a Combat Hapkido patch on dobaks down there, so I know some of your organizations guys are coming to the events. Make sure to include your instructor and fellow students, the more the merrier. When my group first started coming to the seminar back in 2002 or 3 I think, I brought two of my top guys along with myself, and we had a blast. So much fun, that we ended up bringing about 50-75% of my school everytime we came, ever since. Charlie V Shreveport LA --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net From: Victor.E.Dodge@jci.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:06:19 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On the flip side of the coin,... I have read a report that having penetrative sex up to a week before an important/stressful event actually improves your performance. It is because you are more relaxed, possibly due to the release of the hormone oxytocin. These same physiological effects could play on your performance in training. Victor --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Stripes Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've asked several instructors before about their stripes, and one answer I always get is "It helps me keep up with where they are inbetween test cycles". If you have so many students, that you can't remember what you taught them two weeks ago, then hats off to you. However, I'd almost be willing to bet those instructors could just think for a second and remember, so that answer just doesn't hold weight to me. Another answer I often hear is "it gives them something to work towards, another goal". Thats a crutch too, the belt should be enough, and most testing cycles arn't more than 8 months a part at the most, I don't care where you train. In a 9 gup system, that'd be 6 years to black belt, and most take no more than 3.5-4 years. Unless you are dealing with very small children, or very slow learners, I feel the belt system is reward enough. If they need encouragement, give them an 'attaboy'. The most creative one is the different colors or stripes for homework completion, doing chores, practicing at home, or in some cases, even biblical memorization. I suppose its hard to beat having a kid who is well disciplined at home, so rewarding them on every front for being that way is good for the parent as well. When I was teaching in a larger membership setting before I moved, I had toyed with this idea, and scratched it. Too many other programs were going stripe crazy in the area, and my students peers from other schools often boasted how many stripes they had. It got redicoulous at one point, and I had a student leave because he wanted "Cool Stripe Rank" (his words). He came back a month later, after he realized it was just electrical tape. I did give some little stars for the sleeve for A & B Honor roll students, but thats as far as I went with non-MA motivation. I hope this all doesn't come off as me downing programs like these any of you have in place at the moment, I'm just sharing my experiences, and everyone's will vary greatly. More than the instructors, I'm often dissapointed to see the students, like the one above, who push for rank and awards. If only everyone could be content with training for just that, the training. Charlie V Shreveport, LA --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:28:52 +0100 From: To: Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When I am training for a fight I don't have sew for 2 or 3 weeks prior. I feel it does make me weak. I also feel much much less aggressive. Peter -----Original Message----- From: ChunjiDo@aol.com [mailto:ChunjiDo@aol.com] Sent: 25 June 2007 01:29 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: myth or truth? no sex while in training In a message dated 6/23/2007 9:55:59 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: Ok I have a serious question. I'm sure everyone has heard it if you've participated in competitions before: No sex before a fight or while in training. Is this a real thing or just a myth? Does it really make you weak and if so why? is there factual evidence? Jye i've heard this, too, jye. its based on nietzsche philosophy, jung and freudian psychology. its the idea of libido. jung sees it as a psychic energy and desire. there is a theory that one only has so much of this psychic energy to devote to any one activity. we commonly associate libido with sexual activity. however, if one uses all this energy on one activity, he will not have any energy left for other activities which require a great deal of energy. so...if you go screwing around the night before a fight, youre going to spend all your libido/energy on that and be too drained to fight well. take care, melinda :) Melinda Kidder, Owner Chajonshim Martial Arts & Supply Supply: _www.cjmas.com_ (http://www.cjmas.com/) 1.877.847.4072 School: _www.cjmaa.com_ (http://www.cjmaa.com/) 1.573.445.6636 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net **************************************************************************** LONDON FIRE BRIGADE Live in London? 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