Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:58:28 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #210 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: Loose ends (Jye nigma) 2. Master (Frank Clay) 3. RE: New Black Belt Traditions (Jeff Yeagley) 4. Acta Koreana Vol. 10, No. 2 (Ray) 5. Black Belt Tests (David Weller) 6. title (Wayne Watkins) 7. moo duk kwan (freddie bishop) 8. RE: BB testing (Randy Mertes) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:34:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Loose ends To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hi victor, it was my friends who were the tiger schulmans folks that could fight but lacked self control. At that particular school, the instructor walked across the street to this TKD school and wanted to fight that school's instructor and stuff...this same school is where my friend was in a tournament fell on a guy and dislocated his shoulder, and his instructor attempted to put it back in place and broke my friend's shoulder and all while he was out they still charged him for the time he was out and expected him to pay, and also would not admit to any wrong doing...lol. he left tiger schulman's after that. Who needs that? Jye Victor.E.Dodge@jci.com wrote: Goodmorning to all, My mind is still in a fog this morning. Would you please clarify your previous post? Was it your friends that could fight but lacked self control, or the Tiger Schulmans karate folks? Curiously yours, Victor kingjye@yahoo.com 07/04/2007 12:06 To PM the_dojang@martialartsresource.net cc Please respond to Subject the_dojang@martia Re: [The_Dojang] Re: Loose ends lartsresource.net I had a few friends that went to a Tiger Schulmans karate dojo. They could fight, but they lacked the self control and other things promoted by martial arts. I never knew what system of karate TS was it's nice to know now. Jye sidtkd@aol.com wrote: Belt systems: My award goes to Tiger Schulman. He uses white, yellow, orange, orange/green, green, green/blue, purple, red, brown, black with white stripe and black. This is compounded by stripes, tips etc. However, he produces one of the best, most equipped dojangs, with comprehensive fitness and adapted Kyokushin training I've ever seen. American arts: Yes indeed there are numerous adaptations and improvements in Asian arts to be sure. No uniquely American art has taken hold yet. To the writer here that wondered how we could be as good as the Asians...I submit this. We have a huge body of knowledge on applied kinesiology, exercise science, scientists that practice martial arts and superior training equipment. How can we be as good as the Asians? HOW can we not be better???? My emphasis on Americans being taller and stronger: Why not emphasize that? Asian martial arts were specifically designed for Asians weren't they? For the time being at least, mixed martial arts serves as an American entity with nothing really new except the novel ways techniques are integrated. 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Mail Beta. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Frank Clay" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:21:02 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] Master Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I thi8nk we read too much into master. The term master has always referred, even before martial arts were "introduced" to the west, as someone who had a certain level of skill. The theme with martial arts is that the more one approaches "mastery" the more they work on themselves. I'm not sure than an arbitrary dan ranking is the appropriate metric nor do I agree with testing for master. It is something that you will either have inside of you or you will not. I can say that I believe one who is a true master is not one who believes that they have perfected anything but has become painfully aware of their own shortcomings. At that point, the "Never retreat in battle thing" really must come out. In truth, working on the self is the toughest battle in any martial art. ~f. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Jeff Yeagley" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:24:41 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: New Black Belt Traditions Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Gajdostik wrote: "What do my fellow DDers do for Black belt tests????" In our dojang if the candidate passes, the promotion announcement is made, and I tie the black belt on them for the first time. The new black belt is then congratulated by each of the black belts before taking their place in the black belt line. The first formal bow to the new black belt is performed, then the class is dismissed to congratulate the new black belt. As all under dan students in our dojang wear the traditional white dobok, I make a gift to the new black belt of their first colored uniform (black). Sincerely, Jeff Yeagley Academy of Fighting Arts http://www.WeTrainHarder.com --__--__-- Message: 4 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Subject: [The_Dojang] Acta Koreana Vol. 10, No. 2 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fowarding... Dear Colleagues, I am happy to announce the publication of Acta Koreana Vol.10, No. 2. Its table of contents may be found below. Acta Koreana is published semi-annually on 15 January and 15 July and accepts submissions of academic articles, literary translations, interviews and book reviews throughout the year. All submissions should be sent as MS Word file attachments to editor@kmu.ac.kr. For subscription enquiries please contact the managing editor at acta@kmu.ac.kr. Individual copies of the journal may be purchased on-line from www.seoulselection.com. Best regards, Michael Finch Associate Editor Acta Koreana ACTA KOREANA VOL. 10, NO. 2 TABLE OF CONTENTS ARTICLES Preserving the Lore of Korean Antiquity: An Introduction to Native and Local Sources in Iryŏn's Samguk yusa By Richard D. McBride, II 1-38 New Women, Romance, and Railroads: The Paradox of Colonial Modernity By Kelly Jeong 39-72 Sin Yunbok's Kisaeng Imagery: Subtle Expression of Emotions under the Women's Beautiful Facade By Saehyang P. Chung 73-100 The Revivalist and Fundamentalist Theology of Rev. Kil Sŏn-ju: Commemorating the Centenary of the Great Revival of 1907 in P'yŏngyang By Jae-Buhm Hwang 101-119 LITERATURE IN TRANSLATION "We Teach Shame!" and "Invitation" by Pak Wansŏ Translated by Teresa Kim and Jessica Ji Eun Lee with an introduction by Bruce Fulton 121-148 INTERVIEW An Interview with Professor Michael C. Kalton Conducted by Weonsik Hong 149-159 BOOK REVIEWS Korean Perceptions of the United States: A History of Their Origins and Formation, by Young Ick Lew, Byong-kie Song, Ho-min Yang, and Hy-sop Lim, translated by Michael Finch. James E. Hoare 161-165 Competition and Corporate Governance in Korea: Reforming and Restructuring the Chaebol, edited by Sung-Hee Jwa and In Kwon Lee. David Hundt 165-169 Overlooked Historical Records of the Three Korean Kingdoms, compiled by Ilyeon (Iryŏn) and translated by Kim Dal-Yong. Remco E. Breuker 170-173 Famine in North Korea: Markets, Aid and Reform, by Stephen Haggard and Marcus Noland. Brian Myers 173-176 The Voice of the Governor General and Other Stories of Modern Korea, by Hwang Suk-Young et al., translated by Chun Kyung-Ja. Theodore Hughes 176-180 North Korea in the 21st Century: An Interpretative Guide, by James E. Hoare and Susan Pares. Bernhard Seliger 180-183 South Korean Golden Age Melodrama: Gender, Genre, and National Cinema, edited by Kathleen McHugh and Nancy Abelmann. Remco E. Breuker 183-187 The Culture of Fengshui in Korea. An Exploration of East Asian Geomancy, by Hong-key Yoon. Sem Vermeersch 187-190 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: David Weller Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:42:26 -0500 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Black Belt Tests Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr. Gajdostik asked: > What do my fellow DDers do for Black belt tests???? > I personally sweat my ass off and feel like vomiting. :) dave weller --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:36:43 -0500 From: "Wayne Watkins" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] title Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Michael Munyon, I am just a lowly 4th dan and in no way deserve to be called "Master" in relation to martial arts. I have been awarded the title of Master as it refers to BAR-B-QUE. I hope al is well with you in the sand box. If I haven't told you lately there are still those of here that support the troops and appreciate you!! Stay safe my friend! Wayne Watkins --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] moo duk kwan Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Is Moo Duk Kwan a style of martial arts, a place of martial arts practice, or an idealogy? Fred ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Randy Mertes" To: Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:37:03 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: BB testing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net My last black-belt test (a fairly typical BB test) started at 5:00 p.m. on a Friday night. I went home at 2:30 a.m., Saturday morning (to fight off the muscle cramps). Then it was back to the do jang by noon where the actual test (in front of judges) lasted until 4:00 p.m. The day of the test, I bought an 8-pack of Gatorade and drank every one of them. Over the course of the Friday night we went on three runs, averaging 3-4 miles each. Back at the do jang, we worked on patterns, one-steps, Hapkido, sparring and calisthenics (each BB at our school must be able to do several sets each of 300 jumping jacks, 50 push-ups and 80 crunches). During the Saturday portion of the test, we do all of our patterns in succession and then we do them in reverse. For each belt level, we learn 1 ITF and 1 WTF pattern for a total of 18. We are also responsible for four bong and three juhl bohn patterns. During the sparring portion, we spar several black-belt pairs. When we get bored of that, the BB's line up and we take them on in succession. Much of the testing curriculum is left up to current BB's so it can become very creative (read painful). Randy Mertes II Dahn --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest