Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:58:28 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #212 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Re: moo duk kwan (Ray) 2. RE: Doju Ji Han Jae's Surgery (michael tomlinson) 3. MDK Classification (Luther Veuleman) 4. Re: RE: BB testing - (Randy Mertes) (Jeff Ellstrom) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] moo duk kwan To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > The Moo Duk Kwan is dead. While I can agree with the remainder of your sentiment, why would you claim that the MDK is dead? In any of its various forms (a building, a dojang, a family, a fraternity, or even as of late a political organization) it is very much alive. Fragmented, yes, but alive. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "michael tomlinson" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Doju Ji Han Jae's Surgery Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:44:02 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Ian, Thanks for the info on Doju Nim Ji, please tell him that all of the Sin Moo guys in Florida, myself and Rick Nabors included have him in our prayers...also,, thanks for being there with him... Michael Tomlinson >From: Chosondo@aol.com >Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [The_Dojang] Doju Ji Han Jae's Surgery >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:53:18 EDT > >I just want to use up some band width to inform DDers of Doju Ji's recent >surgery. He had a total hip replacement on July 16. at Einstein's Elkins >Park >Hospital, Elkins Park, PA. I spent quite a bit of time with him yesterday >and >is happy to report that is in a lot of pain but is doing remarkably well. >He >is expected to be released by Friday, July 20. Then, he is facing at least >8 >weeks of rehabilitation. > >Ian A. Cyrus, Headmaster >IKMAF >www.ikmaf.com > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL >at >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >_______________________________________________ >The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members >The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Luther Veuleman To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] MDK Classification Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fred, Yes. -Charlie <<<>>>> --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:35:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Ellstrom Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: BB testing - (Randy Mertes) To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have been to a couple of these black belt testings that Randy Mertes is talking about and you are right Dugy, these test are grusome and much more. A person needs to know all of there forms and hapkido and weapons and the meaning of the forms and why we do them and much! much! more!You do know that you have earned that belt once it is givin to you.And both Randy and myself are no spring chickens any more .this is what is fun to us here at our dojang. jeff I Dahn --- Dugy wrote: > Hello Randy Mertes, > > After reading your description of your black belt > test I am really puzzled. > First of all > was this a Hapkido BB Test? > > Because, I've seen Ninjitsu and Combat Hapkido BB > test and > neither was a grusome as yours. These tests > consisted of your usual belt level > tests. having to know your curriculum with some > vocal tips at times from the > sidelines > (spectators). As long as the student seems to know > 80% or more of his test, he > is > granted his next level belt, and in this case, his > Black Belt. In Ninjitsu, > pulling out the > sword in one motion, seemed to be the most > difficult part of the test, in > Combat Hapkido, > the there is no need to memorize the entire belt > level, as long as you know > the moves. > That is, the instructor may go over the moves with > the student before he is > asked to > do the moves. Then he must do them without fault. > > Your running 3/4K miles, 300 jumping jacks etc.. you > must be in excellent > health and truly > be proud of earning your BB. > > Though our tests seem much simpler, though we have > learned the moves necessary > to achieve > the BB rank, it seems we are missing out on much of > the physical fitness. > > I only wish I were in my 20's or 30's once again to > be able to complete a > workout somewhat > compatible with yours. I would truly feel I earned > my black belt, instead of > inching along > with just the satisfaction of having learned the > moves. Physically I feel > though I am not in > such excellant shape as you seem to be, but at least > I have learned the moves > and have earned > the BB. > > Isn't that what the level of Black Belt is? Having > learned all the right > moves? I guess once I get my > Black Belt, I will then be ready to begin learning > the art of fighting? Isnt' > earning the BB, just the beginning? > > -------- > > Message: 8 > From: "Randy Mertes" > To: > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:37:03 -0500 > Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: BB testing > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > My last black-belt test (a fairly typical BB test) > started at 5:00 p.m. on a > Friday night. I went home at 2:30 a.m., Saturday > morning (to fight off the > muscle cramps). Then it was back to the do jang by > noon where the actual test > (in front of judges) lasted until 4:00 p.m. The day > of the test, I bought an > 8-pack of Gatorade and drank every one of them. > > Over the course of the Friday night we went on three > runs, averaging 3-4 > miles > each. Back at the do jang, we worked on patterns, > one-steps, Hapkido, > sparring > and calisthenics (each BB at our school must be able > to do several sets each > of 300 jumping jacks, 50 push-ups and 80 crunches). > > During the Saturday portion of the test, we do all > of our patterns in > succession and then we do them in reverse. For each > belt level, we learn 1 > ITF > and 1 WTF pattern for a total of 18. We are also > responsible for four bong > and > three juhl bohn patterns. During the sparring > portion, we spar several > black-belt pairs. When we get bored of that, the > BB's line up and we take > them > on in succession. Much of the testing curriculum is > left up to current BB's > so > it can become very creative (read painful). > > Randy Mertes > II Dahn > > > -- __--__-- > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! 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