Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:58:33 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #222 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plus11.host4u.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Seoul Journal of Korean Studies (Ray) 2. Gracie Challenge (Gladewater SooBahkDo) 3. Re: Gracie Challenge (Ray) 4. Re: Gracie Challenge (Jye nigma) 5. California Stae Open (Martial Arts Tournaments) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Subject: [The_Dojang] Seoul Journal of Korean Studies Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... The Kyujanggak Institute for Korean Studies would like to announce the June 30, 2007, publication of the Seoul Journal of Korean Studies, Volume 20, Number 1. Free copies may be requested by sending an email with your address to seoul.journal@gmail.com or by mail to: KIKS - Kyujanggak - Sillim-dong San 56-1, Kwanak-gu, Seoul. This volume includes four articles from the field of Korean History: -Boudewijn Walraven uses a variety of source materials to challenge some of the common perceptions about Korean Buddhist history in "A Re- Examination of the Social Basis of Buddhism in Late Chos<8F>n Korea." -Pori Park's "A Korean Buddhist Response to Modernity: The Doctrinal Underpining of Han Yongun's (1879<80><93>1944) Reformist Thought" offers a detailed analysis of Manhae's complex doctrinal journey down a modernist path within the complex space of colonial Korea. -Andreas Mueller-Lee revisits the context through which a towering figure of Chinese history was interpreted and utilized in Korea centuries after his death in "The Sleeping Dragon in Korea: On the Transmission of the Image of the Chinese Statesman Zhuge Liang." -Finally, Anders Karlsson, in a work that evokes a certain resonance with the jangma season, elicits an alternative perception of the health and efficacy of the Chos<8F>n state apparatus in his article, "Royal Compassion and Disaster Relief in Chos<8F>n Korea." We would also like to issue our call for papers for Vol. 20, Number 2, to be published on December 31, 2007. Articles from all fields of study are welcome, as long as their main focus is on Korea. Electronic manuscripts should be sent to seoul.journal@gmail.com in accordance with the submission guidelines found in the following pdf file: http://tinyurl.com/3257av Submissions are due by October 1, 2007. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Gladewater SooBahkDo" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:49:27 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Gracie Challenge Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jon Great Post. I am a gracie student, and the Gracie Challenge is still offered. $100,000 to put his money where his mouth is. I have rolled with the Gracie's and it is a humbling experiance the first time you do it. Now I am a Gracie certified school and teach Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. I see street fighters and Karate guys, and kung fu guys, and TKD etc. all the time come in to check out the Gracie system. They all leave convinced. As a person that has trained most of his life in Korean martial arts like the Moo Duk Kwan, and a certified instructor for the Moo Duk Kwan I see both sides. The Gracie (Grapling side) and the (Traditional Side) Both have great value, but if some one wants to learn the most effective system of fighting (Fighting Aspect of Training) they should just except that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is the it. I will say that the traditional systems offer some things that Jiu-Jitsu don't. but I think every martial artist should open their eyes wide bofore rulling out Grapling JC _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Gracie Challenge To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Great Post. I am a gracie student, and the Gracie Challenge is still > offered. $100,000 to put his money where his mouth is. ... Did Matt Hughes' defeat of Royce qualify for the $100,000? Seems like the Miletich Fighting System (MFS) guys have a very good record against pure BJJ fighters. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:48:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Gracie Challenge To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I think it's more of where you're from thing. I know sifu rudy comes from the streets like me, so from experience, you don't want to take it to the ground because at least in my situations, what starts out as a one on one thing ends up a swarm on one and guns. It's like this and this is a real example. 2 people fight, then someone's friends jump in and next thing you know guns are blaring. My focus is to take out the guy then bounce because I know what's coming. you know how they say fights only last seconds? in the hood it's shorter then that. first you see 2 guys squared off, one cat gets caught then typically the one who got clocked is the one that pulls out his gun or his boys pull out theirs. I think sifu rudy coming from an earlier time them me, still saw craziness, but brothers back then weren't cowards like they are now. So they'd street fight and sifu rudy's stance on martial arts is train in your art and totally understand it. But like he and sifu novell g bell always say, they accept any and all challengers and when in NYC go check them out and test ya skills. I setup one MMA fighter to meet with sifu bell and the guy backed out at the last minute. it was funny, he went from bad mouthing sifu bell and talking about how he is gonna embarass him to being as humble as apple pie when time got close to the meeting and then he punked out...lol. Jye Jye Gladewater SooBahkDo wrote: Jon Great Post. I am a gracie student, and the Gracie Challenge is still offered. $100,000 to put his money where his mouth is. I have rolled with the Gracie's and it is a humbling experiance the first time you do it. Now I am a Gracie certified school and teach Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. I see street fighters and Karate guys, and kung fu guys, and TKD etc. all the time come in to check out the Gracie system. They all leave convinced. As a person that has trained most of his life in Korean martial arts like the Moo Duk Kwan, and a certified instructor for the Moo Duk Kwan I see both sides. The Gracie (Grapling side) and the (Traditional Side) Both have great value, but if some one wants to learn the most effective system of fighting (Fighting Aspect of Training) they should just except that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is the it. I will say that the traditional systems offer some things that Jiu-Jitsu don't. but I think every martial artist should open their eyes wide bofore rulling out Grapling JC _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:51:01 -0700 From: "Martial Arts Tournaments" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] California Stae Open Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net 2007 California State Open TKD Chip Saturday, Sept 8 Cal Poly Pomona 3801 W. Temple Ave Pomona, CA 91768 register online: www.cataekwondo.com More info: 626.286.6500 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest