Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:58:48 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #234 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. swords (Jonathan Boorstein) 2. contracts (Brian Beach) 3. Sponsorship of Martial Arts Events (gtkda@ntelos.net) 4. Re: swords (Jye nigma) 5. Re: swords (Jonathan Boorstein) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:47:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Boorstein To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] swords Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hmm. Given the Three Musketeers thread, perhaps this question isn't as off-topic as I would have thought: A friend of mine is trying to put together some sort of swashbuckler involving a fight between katana and rapier. Essentially a cutting weapon v a thrusting weapon. Any knowledge (or strong opinions) about how such a duel would go? Who, if either, be more likely to win? JB --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Brian Beach Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:25:23 -0400 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] contracts Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net People do ask these questions of academic schools - students are pushed through the program so they are the next person problem. The target numbers are met and it appears that everything is on target. Athletes are pushed though so that they may participate in sports. There are more then a few examples where the current academic model fails the students. I am not a school owner - from my experience the club model seems to have the students best interests at heart. They usually charge a nominal fee to cover for a rental space. True - the instructors do have "day jobs". I do think that it factors into whose interests people are serving. Yes you can offer a "quality product" at a commercial school - I just tend not to look at MA as a product. The "best" model I have seen is Judo clubs. Granted they are not as prevalent as TKD schools. It is a "team" situation. There is a responsibility to the team. There is no supporting of the owner/ instructor. The all effort goes towards the kids. There is a friendly rivalry between clubs, not competing for clients. Instructors and students can and do visit other area schools. It is more of a wider community all working for the sport and its participants. There is a commitment to something larger then themselves and they see how participating in it also benefits themselves. Oh... and no contracts :) On Aug 9, 2007, at 5:58 AM, the_dojang- request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > > 1. Re: Re: More on contracts (s. yates) > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:05:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: "s. yates" > Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: More on contracts > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > > Well said Mr. Dodge. This is the problem with most MA's schools > today. This is why MA's are not looked at as a professional > business. I commend you on your attitude of commitment and > integrity which seems to be missing in our field. Maybe that is why > people are afraid to ask for that commitment, they are worried what > their students will think about them! It is ashame that a few > people who exercise bad business practice are being used as the > examples for the professional who are making the difference in > society thru MA's. BTW, our 5 schools host over 900 students, with > over 75% of them "commited" to what they said they were going to > do, earn their BB's. As for those who wonder about testing on a two > month time schedule, if the students are not ready the instructor > needs to take a good look in the mirror, and ask if he did his job. > Also, would you be asking this of your childs school teacher, who > BTW teaches a set material for a set time, tests them on it then > moves on to the > next subject? Just some thoughts for the naysayers............ > > Scott Yates > SinMoo HKD > New Jersey --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 11:56:54 -0400 (EDT) From: gtkda@ntelos.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Sponsorship of Martial Arts Events Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I would like to know from those of you that have hosted martial arts events such as seminars and tournaments how  you went about acquiring sponsors for these events.  As opposed to paying for the entire event yourself by obtaining sponsors to make monetary donations to help support the event.  What bits of advice to you have for someone seeking to do the same for the first time? Thank you. James Morgan GTKDA Lewisburg, WV --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] swords To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I've heard many theories on who would win and why, but I'd like to see 2 people highly skilled in their respective arts have a duel. Jye Jonathan Boorstein wrote: Hmm. Given the Three Musketeers thread, perhaps this question isn't as off-topic as I would have thought: A friend of mine is trying to put together some sort of swashbuckler involving a fight between katana and rapier. Essentially a cutting weapon v a thrusting weapon. Any knowledge (or strong opinions) about how such a duel would go? Who, if either, be more likely to win? JB --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Boorstein Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] swords To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net This is as close as I've found so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ST1wRzfgmI jb Jye nigma wrote: I've heard many theories on who would win and why, but I'd like to see 2 people highly skilled in their respective arts have a duel. Jye Jonathan Boorstein wrote: Hmm. Given the Three Musketeers thread, perhaps this question isn't as off-topic as I would have thought: A friend of mine is trying to put together some sort of swashbuckler involving a fight between katana and rapier. Essentially a cutting weapon v a thrusting weapon. Any knowledge (or strong opinions) about how such a duel would go? Who, if either, be more likely to win? JB --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,200 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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