Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:59:12 -0700 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 14 #250 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: kma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,200 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Lopez family in TKD (The_Dojang) 2. trunk monkey the ultimate knife defense! (Don Kirsch) 3. RE: LEO/CO Close Quarter Combat Training (Chosondo@aol.com) (Ronald Tobias) 4. Martial Art School For Sale (User979884@aol.com) 5. USA TKD trials (The_Dojang) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 06:52:18 -0700 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Lopez family in TKD Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fun for the entire Lopez family in taekwondo By BRIAN GOMEZ THE GAZETTE August 25, 2007 - 12:02AM Steven Lopez was getting shut out by Antony Graf. Diana Lopez was losing in the closing seconds to Nia Abdallah. Mark Lopez was sweating in the stands. Their older brother, Jean Lopez, was screaming from the coaches' chair. A family that has dominated the U.S. taekwondo community looked flustered, panicked, out of control for the first time in a long time. Hundreds of people at the Olympic Training Center were on their feet, cheering for the underdogs at the U.S. Olympic trials. Within a blink of an eye, Steven rallied, Diana prevailed in sudden death, Mark and Jean were breathing easier and order was restored Friday in the Lopez family. Steven's win in the men's lightweight/welterweight division and Diana's win in women's bantamweight/featherweight, coupled with Mark's victory Thursday in men's bantam/feather, put the Lopez siblings in position to make the 2008 Beijing Games. They'll join women's finweight/flyweight winner Charlotte Craig next month at the world Olympic qualifier in Manchester, England, where a top-three finish is enough to advance to Beijing. The only set of three American siblings to make the same Summer Games in the same sport are brothers Edward, Richard and William Tritschler, who competed in gymnastics at the 1904 Olympics. Diana escaped with a 2-1 win over Abdallah, the 2004 Olympic silver medalist, in the finals of the winners' bracket, then beat her in a second nail-bitter. In their first fight, Lopez scored the deciding point against Abdallah with 25 seconds left. Abdallah kicked Lopez to the ground three times in the third round but wasn't awarded any points, inciting boos from the crowd. Lopez trailed 5-3 with nine seconds left in the second match when Abdallah was docked a point for retreating out of bounds. A powerful kick in the corner enabled Lopez to tie the score with three seconds remaining, and she won 47 seconds into sudden death. "I've been waiting for this rematch for three years," said Lopez, who lost to Abdallah at the 2004 Olympic trials. "Nia is a tough fighter. She adjusted, and I adjusted to what she was doing." Steven Lopez, a two-time gold medalist and four-time world champion, faced a battle after beating Graf 4-2 in the winners' bracket finals. In the rematch, Graf led 3-0 in the first round. Lopez tied the score four seconds into the third round and went on to win 5-3, seizing momentum from Graf's one-point penalty for holding with 53 seconds left. "He came out strong," Lopez said. "I came out a little lackadaisical, and he woke me up. I need a little bit of excitement, I guess." Graf criticized the officiating, saying Steven Lopez receives special treatment. In taekwondo, three of four referees must click a handheld buzzer within a second of a kick or a punch for a competitor to score. "You have to beat Steven Lopez, the name," Graf said. "In (the referees') heads, they're looking to him first because he's the golden boy." Asked whether she received fair fights against Diana Lopez, Abdallah said, "There's probably some politics going on. Referees are human." --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Don Kirsch" To: "the_dojang" Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:35:15 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] trunk monkey the ultimate knife defense! Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The trunk monkey...the ultimate knife defense. Though technically this is not a monkey (monkeys have prehensile tails and don't have opposable thumbs...this is an ape, similar to a lot of my KMA brothers ... :) http://www.metacafe.com/watch/82437/all_the_trunk_monkeys/ Regards, Don Kirsch --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ronald Tobias To: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:39:02 -0400 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: LEO/CO Close Quarter Combat Training (Chosondo@aol.com) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Chosendo, I agree with your observation that firearms proficiency and DT are inextricably tied to each other as the use of firearms in law enforcement is, in fact, a defensive tactic. I also agree with your observation that a standardized DT program is virtually impossible. However, I believe this is because of the numerous and differing policy restrictions, not because of, or lack thereof, a legal standard.I do have issue with your statement that follows: > Regardless though, the "force continuum" is by and large the acceptable > standard with respect to the escalation of force (and the use of deadly force). A Use of Force Continuum/Model is a training tool not a legal standard ( I've seen as many as 15 different Use of Force Continuums/models). The legal standard by which law enforcement officers are judged in use of force is "Objective Reasonableness" in light of the "Totality of the Circumstances". This standard is defined by the 4th Amendment and the Supreme Court cases, Graham v. Conner, Tenn. v. Garner, and the most recent and only third use of force case to ever be heard before the Supreme Court, Scott v. Harris. The law does not require use of force to follow any type of continuum. Use of Force Continuums/Models are tools only and considered by many not to be very good tools at that (for reasons to numerous to mention at this point). In fact, the nations largest federal law enforcement training center no longer uses any continuum or model when teaching use of force. R.T.> Message: 1> From: Chosondo@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:02:14 EDT> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> Subject: [The_Dojang] LEO/CO Close Quarter Combat Training> Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> > I can't speak for other LEO's but in the FBI we are required to shoot > several firearm qualification courses and Defensive Tactics (DT) Training every > four months. Firearm proficiency and DT are inextricably tied to each other.> > Having been personally responsible for certifying numerous LEOs in several > police departments I can say that the LEOs behavior in policing or arrest > situations are governed by state Statutes, municipal ordinances and codes, and > departmental policies. It is for this reason, that martial arts and DTs are not > the same. Because, behavior is governed by law. These restrictions by and > large do not favor the LEOs behavior. And in many ways, safety. For example, > the "carotid restraint" is forbidden in most municipalities but we in the FBI > can use it.> > Regardless though, the "force continuum" is by and large the acceptable > standard with respect to the escalation of force (and the use of deadly force).> > Budgetary constraints are the usual reason why most police departments do > not have ongoing physical fitness requirements, DT programs, and firearm > proficiency. The proof is in the pudding...> > My two cents worth...> > _________________________________________________________________ Recharge--play some free games. 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Qualifying in the round robin format for the women's team were finweight Talina Le, bantamweight Sammy Saltamachia, lightweight Amber Means, light middleweight Samantha Cravens and light heavyweight Paige McPherson. Qualifying for the men's team were finweight Tanner Creel, bantamweight Jarred McKee, lightweight Brice Yu, light middleweight Thomas Lee and light heavyweight Cody Thongtavee. The Junior Team Trials conclude on Sunday with competition in the flyweight, featherweight, welterweight, middleweight and heavyweight divisions. The 20-member U.S. Junior Team will compete at the Pan American Taekwondo Championships in Daytona Beach, Oct. 5-6. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2007: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest