Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:48:22 +0100 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #4 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,300 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Kukkiwon Announcement on Promotion Tests (The_Dojang) 2. Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #2 - 5 msgs (Dave Steffen) 3. Eighty Athletes Advance From World Junior Championships Open (The_Dojang) 4. Re: Training for student in Hawaii (blueknightpi@att.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:02:24 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Kukkiwon Announcement on Promotion Tests Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Kukkiwon Announcement on Higher Dan Promotion Tests 07 Jan 2008 The Kukkiwon will hold four Higher Dan Promotion Tests this year at the Kukkiwon as follows. Schedule- 1. March 8, 2008 2. June 7, 2008 3. Sept. 6, 2008 4. Dec. 6, 2008 Those who have met the requirements for the test such as time passage from the previous Dan promotion and age limit, as stipulated in Article 8 of the Regulations of the Kukkiwon Dan Promotion Test, are eligible for the application. For further information, please contact the Kukkiwon's International Division either at 82-2-563-3339 (telephone) or 82-2-552-3025(fax). --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Dave Steffen Organization: Colorado International TaeKwon-Do To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 00:00:45 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #2 - 5 msgs Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Ray Terry wrote: > Hi Dave, > > So given your sig it looks like you passed? If so, congrats! Yup, I passed, so it must not have been a complete disaster. :-) > Is there a way to provide an unbiased comparison of the three ITFs? > e.g. who tended to end up in which ITF org? Unbiased? Heck no. :-) It would take an external person (like a journalist) to do that. I can give you my biased-but-I'll-try-to be-fair opinion, though. :-) > It seems the NK ITF has the closer tie with the WTF, yes? Is the NK > ITF also the largest of the three ITFs? Did a majority of the more > senior ITF Masters end up in Master Choi's org or NK or Vienna? The NK group does have close ties with the WTF; you all may remember a certain major scandal a few years back about WTF President Un Yong Kim funnelling a bunch of $$$ to the North Koreans by way of "ITF President" Chang Ung. I have my doubts about Mr. Ung's sincerity. I also have my doubts (aired extensively in this forum a long time ago) about the "reunification" of TKD (you might as well try to 'reunite' TKD and Shao-Lin Kungfu, we're just not talking about the same thing). It seems (despite what's up on the NK web site) that the Vienese courts are generally siding with the Vienna group (under Master Tran); I think every ruling has gone against NK except one that is under appeal. I don't really know about the relative sizes. A lot of the ITF Masters were in the NG group at first, but have left since then (notably GM Hwang). From where I sit (in the Vienna group) it looks like we're attracting people from the other organizations (or, more commonly, from limbo) but I have a very limited view of this from Northern Colorado. :-) We were under GM Hwang when the General died, so we were (briefly) affiliated with the NG group. Our various jobs did not allow us to remain in a group with that leadership (among other issues, Master Roena is a Denver County Sheriff). We left and joined the Canada group, as a part of Master Fabian Nunez' ATFI group. Shortly thereafter, the ATFI pulled out of the Canada group and joined Vienna. We were not with GM Choi for very long, but we had no problems with him at all (the move was... well, it's a long story). I can say without reservation that the Vienna group has its act together. We are very impressed with President Tran and the people has working with him, and are happy to be where we are. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Dave Steffen, Ph.D. Wave after wave will flow with the tide V Dan, ITF And bury the world as it does Tide after tide will flow and recede tkd-physics@comcast.net Leaving life to go on as it was... - Peart / RUSH "The reason that our people suffer in this way.... is that our ancestors failed to rule wisely". -General Choi, Hong Hi --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:42:16 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Eighty Athletes Advance From World Junior Championships Open Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Eighty Athletes Advance From World Junior Championships Open By Bill Kellick // USA Taekwondo January 8, 2008 COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Eighty junior-level black belts (ages 14-17) took the first step in qualifying for the 2008 U.S. Taekwondo Junior National Team this past weekend at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs during the World Junior Championships Open. The two-day event, held January 5-6, saw competition in 10 weight classes for both male and female fighters. The single-elimination format pared the field of 228 competitors down to 80. Those 80 athletes will now compete for 20 spots on the U.S. Junior Team that will compete at the 2008 Junior World Taekwondo Championships in Izmir, Turkey, May 8-11. The final trials process will take place on April 4 in Des Moines, Iowa, where the 20-member team will be finalized. The following athletes advanced from this past weekend's event by finishing in the top four in their respective weight divisions: Male Finweight 1. Jeffery Williams (Blue Island, Ill.) 2. Olie Burton (Alexandria, Va.) 3. David Sano (Richmond, Calif.) 3. Lyles Moore (Belton, Mo.) Male Flyweight 1. Seth Wolfe (Maple Valley, Wash.) 2. Jericho Yabut (Canyon Country, Calif.) 3. Garland Porter (Sugar Land, Texas) 3. Steven Tidwell (Bristow, Va.) Male Bantamweight 1. Mark Kang (Chatsworth, Calif.) 2. Jayme Cajimat (Ewa Beach, Hawaii) 3. J. (Aaron) Porras (Highlands Ranch, Colo.) 3. James Samotshozo (Fairfax, Va.) Male Featherweight 1. Jensen Ishida (Waipahu, Hawaii) 2. Marc Evangelista (Sacramento, Calif.) 3. Kevin Chavez (Winnetka, Calif.) 3. Alex Zuniga (Carson, Calif.) Male Lightweight 1. Sean Aston (Clarksburg, Md.) 2. Tyler Sawyer (Anchorage, Alaska) 3. Marcus Montello (Lake in the Hills, Ill.) 3. Jaysen Ishida (Waipahu, Hawaii) Male Welterweight 1. David Hubbard (Waianae, Hawaii) 2. Jared Reed (Elverta, Calif.) 3. Timothy Kinley (Alexandria, Va.) 3. Jared Schneider (Sugar Land, Texas) Male Light Middleweight 1. Dwayne Burns (Brentwood, Calif.) 2. Ivan Delgadillo (Cerritos, Calif.) 3. Aaron Bess (Burbank, Calif.) 3. John Hansel (Ashburn, Va.) Male Middleweight 1. Thomas Lee (Alexandria, Va.) 2. Justin Weeks-Woodward (Alexandria, Va.) 3. John Chung (Fort Worth, Texas) 3. Wardell Samotshozo (Fairfax, Va.) Male Light Heavyweight 1. Hans Lapica (Miami, Fla.) 2. Tyler Knittel-McDavid (Loveland, Ohio) 3. Christopher Smith (Modesto, Calif.) 3. Evan Rodgers (Stone Mountain, Ga.) Male Heavyweight 1. Christian Suh (Astoria, N.Y.) 2. Connor Myers (Edmond, Okla.) 3. Joshua Roe (Waterloo, Iowa) 3. Mehdi Dehghani (Springfield, Va.) Female Finweight 1. Stephanie Popken (Highlands Ranch, Colo.) 2. Talina Le (Woodinville, Wash.) 3. Anees Hasnain (McKinney, Texas) 3. Caitlin Vandrisse (Maple Grove, Minn.) Female Flyweight 1. Edelene Castro (Carson, Calif.) 2. Kristen Frisch (Avon Lake, Ohio) 3. Alexis Martinez (Pembroke Pines, Fla.) 3. Selina Coppersmith-Tubbs (Plano, Texas) Female Bantamweight 1. Merissa Pico (Fort Lee, N.J.) 2. Paige Biviano (Cazenovia, N.Y.) 3. Rachel Cataldo (Clive, Iowa) 3. Kiana Lo (Danville, Calif.) Female Featherweight 1. Victoria Stambaugh (Pasadena, Calif.) 2. Shaina Krause (Fairfax Station, Va.) 3. Ellen Morrison (Silver Spring, Va.) 3. Christiana Morrow (Alexandria, Va.) Female Lightweight 1. Nicole Palma (Lake Worth, Fla.) 2. Yasmine Bomagat (Brentwood, Calif.) 3. Emilia Morrow (Alexandria, Va.) 3. Judy Lee (Bayside, N.Y.) Female Welterweight 1. Carolyn Lieberman (Aliso Viejo, Calif.) 2. Molly Jacobs (Alexandria, Va.) 3. Gabriella Vazzana (Paris, Va.) 3. Mara Perscheid (Alexandria, Va.) Female Light Middleweight 1. Whitney Daniel (Virginia Beach, Va.) 2. Lindsey Meade (Swan Lake, Mont.) 3. Sana Jafarzadeh (Alexandria, Va.) 3. Ally Creel (Highlands Ranch, Colo.) Female Middleweight 1. Amber Hoover (Wellington, Fla.) 2. Jacquelyn Lauricella (Port Orange, Fla.) 3. Valarie Mueller (Chicago, Ill.) 3. Hayley Cisper (Oklahoma City, Okla.) Female Light Heavyweight 1. Dessamine Vince-Cruz (Alexandria, Va.) 2. Laurissa Tanielu (Blue Island, Ill.) 3. Monica Tong (Richardson, Texas) 3. Shaynna Castro (Sugar Land, Texas) Female Heavyweight 1. Nazara Muwwakkil (Largo, Fla.) 2. Sophia Kim (Ashburn, Va.) 3. Kyla Millington (Coon Rapids, Minn.) 3. Adrienne Ivey (Ashburn, Va.) --__--__-- Message: 4 From: blueknightpi@att.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:29:57 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Training for student in Hawaii Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I have a long time student who is a medivac pilot just back from Iraq and now living in Hawaii. He works at Schofield Barracks which is in the middle of the island and lives on the southwest side in Kapolei.. He is looking for either a Hapkido school or a Kali/Eskrima school to complement what he knows. Vic Cushing --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. 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