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Re: Belt system/ranking (Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Doug" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:18:47 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Well, the time has come for my BB testing next month. 2+ years have passed and going on 10 beltsThe master (5th dan TKD, 1 dan Combat Hapkido) has decided to test me in 3-4 day period as I will need to go thru all 9 previous belts plus my 1st dan belt. He mentioned that all the black belts he's known of have always been a double wrap. That if I wanted to be the first ever to get a single wrap black belt, he would accomodate me but it's really unheard of. Frankly, I don't much care for a double wrap. A single wrap is more comfortable and doesn't buckle or cause a pain in the back during some precausious (sp) rolling or grappling. Is that the truth? There's no such thing as a single wrap? Sounds rediculous to me. But what do I know.. I know how many of you have commented on the combat hapkido in the past, but after comparing it with regular Hapkido, I've found it skips much of the lower level belts and concentrates on the actual defense techniques. I've thoroughly enjoyed learning this martial arts and am looking forward to further my knowledge. Eskrima looks like a challange! Your comments are appreciated. Thanks. Doug Combat Hapkido 1st Gup --__--__-- Message: 2 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:46:10 -0800 (PST) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Subject: [The_Dojang] Academia Koreana Fellowship Program Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net forwarding... Academia Koreana Fellowship Program Announcement Academia Koreana, the Korean studies research institute of Keimyung University, in conjunction with its semi-annual, international Korean studies journal Acta Koreana, announces a new fellowship program starting on March 1, 2008. The appointment is initially for ten months but can be extended on review. Candidates should have received at least an MA degree in the field of Korean studies, have an excellent command of academic English and Korean, be able to demonstrate a genuine research interest in the field of Korean studies and preferably have experience in academic editing. The successful candidate will be expected to make an enthusiastic and positive contribution to the research activities of Academia Koreana and also take on the duties of the managing editor of the journal Acta Koreana, which is published in January and July each year. In addition the fellow will be required to teach one course per semester in Keimyung University's international Korean studies program. The fellowship will provide a stipend in the region of $3,300.00 per month, including basic insurances, a one-time round-trip airfare, and an apartment on campus. Submission of all materials electronically as PDF files is preferred. Review of applications will begin on January 28, 2008 and will continue until the position is filled. Interested candidates should submit their letter of application, CV, writing sample (article or dissertation chapter), copies of all degree certificates, transcripts and two letters of recommendation as e-mail attachments to the search committee at acta@kmu.ac.kr or by mail to the address below. Dr. Tschung-Sun Kim Academia Koreana, Keimyung University 1000 Shindang-dong, Dalseo-gu 704-701 Daegu Korea --__--__-- Message: 3 From: michael tomlinson To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:19:15 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You are probably not gonna like what I'm gonna say but take it with a grain of salt and think about it,, in the long run I'm just an opinionated bonehead. This is gonna be Point Blank coming from a HKD instructor. First of all I don't understand what gives you the right to tell your instructor that you don't want the double wrap black belt? It's not really like Burger King. Coming up through the years-- to actually say something like that to your instructor would be considered a HUGE sign of disrespect and arrogance. < comfortable and doesn't buckle or cause a pain in the back during some> precausious (sp) rolling or grappling. Is that the truth? There's no such> thing as a single wrap? Sounds rediculous to me.>> I've never heard of anyone wearing a single wrap belt in HKD? I've been in Korean Martial Arts since 1969 and frankly I've never seen anyone wear a single wrap belt in TKD, HKD, or TSD. I've also never heard of anyone say that the double wrap belt hurt their back? When your grappling the belt hurts your back and is uncomfortable?? Are you serious? < after comparing it with regular Hapkido, I've found it skips much of the lower>level belts and concentrates on the actual defense techniques>> So since your Hapkido "skips" many of the lower belts that means it skips most of the basics and repetitions needed to become proficient in HKD,, Dude are you for real??? Do you actually think that by skipping belts you are actually better in HKD and self defense??? Wow...you don't like the belt or learning the lower belt levels and NOW you are ready to become a black belt in HKD???? Sounds like in about two more years you'll be ready to go out on your own and start your own style of HKD....simply incredible, I'm astounded..... Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 --__--__-- Message: 4 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:54:50 -0800 (PST) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net >single wrap belt in TKD, HKD, or TSD. I've also never heard of anyone say >that the double wrap belt hurt their back? When your grappling the belt hurts >your back and is uncomfortable?? Are you serious? Gotta agree. After years of training could anyone be so soft that a belt, a belt of any kind, could actually do that? I hope not... Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:12:38 -0800 From: The_Dojang To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Questionnaire on WTF Web TV Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Questionnaire on WTF Web TV 24 Jan 2008 Videos We are proud to present the initial offering of wtf-taekwondo.tv that includes a demonstration of exciting videos from various divisions at the World Olympic Qualification Tournament for Beijing Olympic Games at the following link: http://dcp.dartfish.com/wtf. The objective is to cover all major competitions around the world and offer them to you in the format that you can experience on the current platform. As the site is still in its initial stages of development more material and functionality will be uploaded for your interest and any comments, questions, suggestions, or concerns will be very welcome at wtftaekwondotv@gmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------- Please answer this short questionnaire regarding the video platform site so that we may better serve your needs. --------------------------------------------------------------- Next Event European Olympic Qualification Tournament for Beijing Olympic Games, sponsored by the European Taekwondo Union. --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:17:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt From: "Thomas Gordon" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Most the ITF Taekwon-Do folks uses single wrap belts. I personally prefer the double wrap belt. Probably only because it's what I'm used to. Thomas Gordon Florida --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Gordon Okerstrom" To: Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:43:42 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Double Wrap Belt Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net No one, that I know, in our area uses anything other than a double wrap belt except for our Lil' Dragons. Their belt is single wrap and has a Velcro lump in the middle of the back. They don't complain at all. : ) Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:49:13 -0600 From: Taekwondo America To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I agree that one shouldn't ask one's instructor for a different belt -- one should ask him/her to teach you to tie the thing correctly. It shouldn't fold over or criss-cross in the back. Or maybe the belt is too short and it is being tied too tightly. Here's a good one: http://www.louisianataekwondo.com/howtotie.html C Rogers Denton Taekwondo Academy --__--__-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Double or single wrap Black belt To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:09:58 -0800 (PST) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I agree that one shouldn't ask one's instructor for a different belt -- > one should ask him/her to teach you to tie the thing correctly. It > shouldn't fold over or criss-cross in the back. Or maybe the belt is too > short and it is being tied too tightly. Good point. In Japanese styles the belt crosses in the back. In Korean styles it does not. Make sure you're tying it in the Korean fashion. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:28:32 -0500 From: "Cayson, Clint" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Belt system/ranking Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello all. I am not sure if this question was ask or not but allow me to ask it anyway. During my teen years I started off with 5 types (colors) of belts in our school (Dojang in the Philippines). There was White, Green, Brown, Red and Black - and now there are so many types of color belts. Question: When was the first time that the belt ranking/system changed? The Gi is fairly the same as before but the belt system changed tremendously. No bad intentions but just being curious. Thanks. -------------------------------------- Clint --__--__-- Message: 11 Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Belt system/ranking To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: rterry@idiom.com (Ray) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > I am not sure if this question was ask or not but allow me to ask it > anyway. During my teen years I started off with 5 types (colors) of > belts in our school (Dojang in the Philippines). There was White, > Green, Brown, Red and Black - and now there are so many types of color > belts. Question: When was the first time that the belt ranking/system > changed? The Gi is fairly the same as before but the belt system changed > tremendously. No bad intentions but just being curious. Thanks. Not really an answer to your question, but some background info... http://martialartsresource.com/anonftp/pub/the_dojang/digests/koreanma.htm#6.0%20Rankings/Color%20belt%20systems Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest