Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:48:21 +0100 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #38 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Sensei (Gordon Okerstrom) 2. RE: Better Counters (michael tomlinson) 3. 3rd Dan Counters (michael tomlinson) 4. Re: Sensei (Thomas Gordon) 5. Re: Taekwondo schools using title Sensei (Beungood8@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Gordon Okerstrom" To: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:50:04 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Sensei Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thomas Gordon wrote: "I was at a traditional ju-jitsu clinic this weekend and people called me Sensei the whole time. I didn't think much of it - I was in their house." We have an instructors get together once in a while at the local Korean restaurant. Most of us are TKD but we have a few Karate and a couple of Gung-Fu stylists that join in. One is a Ninjutsu practitioner that speaks Japanese to our Korean restaurant hosts. I get to hear: "Arigato gozai masu", as we leave and the rest of us smile uncomfortably and say: "Ahnyong ee Kyay sayo". (sorry about the spelling) or should I say: "sum mi massen". : ) Gordon (Sho-Nuff) Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 2 From: michael tomlinson To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Better Counters Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:53:49 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Those are some good points and scenarios Ray.....I can't count how many times my hand has slid off of a sweaty opponent and I ended up with a different technique because my hands and body ended up in a different position... the thing about HKD and BJJ is that IF you practice HKD a certain way...it really isn't that much different from BJJ....now before I start getting slammed just let me say that we do way more grappling than kicking at our dojang....and we have done that forever....all the locks and chokes in HKD and BJJ are pretty much the same....but the BJJ guys have a "better" way of practicing a lot of times...IMHO... ps...I also left out that under Master Whalen and the old KHA the 3rd dan black belt test is loaded with counter techniques against most of the throws and joint locks... Mic hael Tomlinson> Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Better Counters> To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:24:35 -0800> From: rterry@idiom.com> > > With BJJ becoming more popular, I'm seeing better counters for many of our> > break falls and takedowns. Some of the more slippery individuals are> > quickly shrimping forward out of the elbow press given after a regular take> > down. Any of you seen this?> > In addition to what the "purple wonder" mentioned I'd also say that Gm Ji> also shows how to counter certain moves, throws, locks. One cannot just> fixate on a single technique and assume it will work. Now, given that the> opponent has been off-balanced, given that you are using proper body mechanics > and directing his/her movement, etc, the technique -should- work. But> what if your foot slips during the technique? What if you suddenly see> a second attacker coming and the technique you are about to do will put you> in a bad postion wrt that in-coming threat? We also need to be able to flow> from one technique into another, into another...> > Just more fun stuff to think about and practice.> > Ray Terry> rterry@idiom.com> _______________________________________________> The_Dojang mailing list, 2,300 members> The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net> Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource> Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join --__--__-- Message: 3 From: michael tomlinson To: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:58:17 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] 3rd Dan Counters Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I also forgot to mention that my 3rd dan black belt test involved Master Mike McCarty beating on me like I was a baby seal at an eskimo keg party!!!! While Master Whalen watched and smiled!! What's wrong with us???? Michael Tomlinson _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:24:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Sensei From: "Thomas Gordon" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mr Okerstrom, I gotta kick outta your email. We don't have any good Korean places to eat around here. Plenty of Tia & Chinese options. The "Sho-Nuff" comment brought back some funny memories. The Last Dragon was a classic in E rated martial art flicks with the bad guy everyone called Sho-Nuff. Sincerely, Thomas Gordon Master's Seminars on April 18-20, 2008 www.gordonmartialarts.com/new/2008-0420 --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Beungood8@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:57:56 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Taekwondo schools using title Sensei Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 2/11/2008 2:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net writes: Confusing, silly, etc.... kind of like going to the Ford dealership and they tell you they are selling Fords that are actually named Chevy???? Michael Tomlinson> From: mastermark I concur, It I would be suspect of them and their skillsets.. **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. 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