Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:48:22 +0200 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #90 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. RAS Lectures in Seoul and Mid-Spring Tours (Ray) 2. zen/ch'an (Frank Clay) 3. Finding training in Korea (Jon Bue) 4. RE: zen/ch'an (michael tomlinson) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 07:58:08 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] RAS Lectures in Seoul and Mid-Spring Tours Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Begin forwarded message: > The Royal Asiatic Society-–Korea (founded in 1900) offers > excellent opportunities for scholars visiting the nation > to present their latest research in a semi-formal setting > with a wide cross-section of English-speaking Koreans and > international residents in the audience. We invite all > academics working on Korea to make a 1-hour presentation > at one of our semi-monthly Lecture Meetings held in the > heart of Seoul (2nd and 4th Tuesdays of every month). > If you will be visiting or resident in Korea and feel you > have something fresh and interesting to say as a result > of your studies, please contact us as early as possible > to arrange the appropriate date for you to be our Speaker. > > > Now then, here are upcoming activities of interest: > > Tuesday, April 8th: RAS-K Lecture-Meeting, featuring Dr. > Andrei Lankov (well-known researcher on social and cultural > aspects of 20th-Cen Korean modernization, including the > DPRK, now a Fellow at Australian National University, > columnist for several publications, PhD from Leningrad > State University) speaking on “Transformation of Seoul > Traffic in the 1940s and 1950s.” He will focus on > fascinating details of how Seoul has evolved one of the > world’s exemplary public transportation systems. 7:30 pm > in the 2nd-floor Resident’s Lounge of the Somerset Palace, > Anguk-dong (just north of Jogye-sa), Seoul. Free for RAS > Members, w5000 donation requested from others. > > Sat-Sun April 12-13: Tongdo-sa and Haein-sa Temples Tour > Visit two of Korea's three "treasure temples". Tongdo-sa, > the "bul" (Buddha) temple, is one of the few temples in > Korea where actual remains of the Buddha are believed to > reside. Haein-sa is the "Bob" (Law) temple, holding the > Tripitaka Koreana, the world-famous set of wood printing > blocks for the Buddhist canon. Led by > longtime-expat-in-Korea and religious-expert Dr. Daniel > Adams. > > Fri-Mon April 11-14th: Central Honshu Island of JAPAN Tour > This trip to Japan's main island focuses on the industrial > and historical Kansai region. The tour begins in Osaka, > moves on to Asuka and Nara, the eighth century Japanese > capital, and continues to Kyoto, the capital up until 1868. > Castles, shrines, temples and museums insure a varied > experience of Japan. > > Sat-Sun April 19-20 Gyeryong-san Mountain-spirit > Ceremonies Festival Tour -- On this trip to the famously > beautiful “Rooster Dragon Mountain” National Park, one of > the holiest set of peaks and gorges in Korea (highly sacred > to all religious traditions), we will enjoy short hikes > through the springtime slopes to interesting shrines and > attending the annual Festival that honors this mountain’s > powerful spirit. We will watch several rituals of Buddhist, > Shamanic and Confucian styles, with everything explained by > our expert guide Professor David Mason. > > Sat April 19th: Gyeonggi-do Cherry Blossom Tour > Enjoy the beauty and fragrance of the springtime cherry > blossoms, set against some of Gyeonggi Province’s most > beautiful backdrops. > > Sun April 20th: Magnolia Tour: Chollipo Arboretum > A relaxing and educational weekend spent in Asia's largest > and most extensive private arboretum. The RAS way to lose > oneself in a sprawling botanical paradise next to Chollipo > Beach. > > Tuesday, April 22nd: RAS-K Lecture-Meeting, featuring > Ambassador Victor Wei (envoy of Belgium, posted to Seoul > since 2004), speaking on “Regional Integration: an > East–West Comparison.” He will focus on the contrast > between economic and political progress towards unity in > Europe with that of the Southeast and Northeast Asian > regions. 7:30 pm in the 2nd-floor Resident’s Lounge of the > Somerset Palace, Anguk-dong (just north of Jogye-sa), > Seoul. Free for RAS Members, w5000 donation requested from > others. > > Sat-Sun April 26-27th: Geumgang-san Diamond Mountain Tour > (in North Korea) -- *details to be announced soon*. > Anybody with a passport can go. Please see ‘Event Calendar’ > for updates. > > Sun April 27th: Ganghwa-do and Seongmo-do Islands Tour > Strategically located at the mouth of the Han River, > historic Ganghwa Island was traditionally a royal refuge > and the scene of several naval battles during the "opening" > of Korea. Highlights include the majestic fortress, a > prehistoric dolmen, and the oldest Episcopal Church in > Korea. We will have the opportunity to visit Dr. Kim’s > newly built traditional Korean House and learn about Korean > architecture. We will also visit the Bomun-sa Temple, a > famous temple with a long history and a spectacular > cliff-carving, on nearby Seongmo-do Island (a brief > ferry-ride). Led by Ganghwa resident and expert Dr. Kim > Yong-duk. > > Sat-Sun May 3-4th: Jiri-san National Park Tour > A weekend trip to one of Korea's three most-sacred > mountains. In addition to the fantastic mountain scenery > and views from dramatic passes, we will visit the grand > Ssanggye-sa and Hwaom-sa Buddhist temples, a charming folk > Village and the profound alpine Cheonghak-dong [Blue-Crane > Village]. Led by longtime-expat-in-Korea and > religious-expert Dr. Daniel Adams. > > Mon May 5th: Bugak-san Fortress Wall Hiking Tour in Seoul > Join the RAS for one of the classic and historical views > you will ever see- right at the heart of Seoul! Seoul was > the capital city of Korea for more than 600 years and is > unique in the way of being surrounded by 4 mountains, 4 big > gates and 4 small gates each. We climb up Bugak-san and > walk along the ancient / restored fortress. > > Sat May 10th: Bukchon Hanok-Neighborhood Walking Tour in > Seoul -- Walking tour in this area to see some of the > remodeled traditional Korean houses (hanok) and to visit > some artisans who set up their workshops there. Includes a > visit of the new Bukchon Culture Center in Anguk-dong with > its preservation project for traditional Korean houses > (hanok). Led by Prof. David Mason. > > Being a Member of the Royal Asiatic Society - Korea has > many benefits, including free attendance of interesting > lectures, receiving newsletters of activities, discounts on > great tours of Korea’s most beautiful and fascinating > places led by experts, discounts on books about all Korean > subjects in English, and more. Everyone involved with > Korean Studies who speaks English would do well to join > this 108-year-old scholarly organization. For more > information, call 763-9483 in Seoul during business hours, > write to raskb@kornet.net or visit our website > http://www.raskb.com/ > > David A. Mason > Professor of Korean Tourism, KyungHee University > Office #710, College of Hotel and Tourism Management > http://www.san-shin.org --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Frank Clay" To: Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:03:06 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] zen/ch'an Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Mike, You are right in that Buddhism on a whole is older than is Zen. You are not correct in saying that the Zen sect came from Japan. It is the same sect as Ch'an which came from China and went to Japan. TRhere are lots of legends around this event and it seems little true fact. The only reason in the west that we know more about "Zen" than we do "Ch'an" was 1) a proliferation Zen trained writers and 2) WWII. Hope this helps, Namu Dai Bosatsu, ~f --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Jon Bue To: Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:08:26 -0600 Subject: [The_Dojang] Finding training in Korea Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Hello again, This time I need help finding a place to train in Korea. Anyone know where I can find a quality Hapkido dojang in Jinan Eup, which is outside of Jeonju in Jeollabukdo? Thanks in advance! _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: michael tomlinson To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] zen/ch'an Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:09:29 +0000 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Zen is the Japanese form of that particular school of Buddhism and they are all branches off of the Northern Sect or Mahayana Buddhism...Southeast Asian countries base their Buddhism on the Lower Branch or Hinayana Buddhism, the Northern Branch contains Tibetan Buddhism, Chan Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, and many more....soooo if you are using the word Zen you are referring to the Japanese version...if you are using the word Chan you are referring to the Chinese version...there are also two offshoot versions of Zen (Japanese forms of Buddhism) they are Rinzai Zen and Soto or Pure Sect Zen...and these two forms are different than Chan Buddhism...yes they sprouted from Chan Buddhism but they are entirely different...it's like saying that all Karate came from Kung Fu....yes it surely did but it is different now that it has established it's own identity...such as Goju Ryu Karate looks like certain forms of Kung Fu..but it ain't Kung Fu... Most people think of Zen Buddhism as a form of Rinzai Zen...that is the form that contains all the riddles that people have heard about such as: if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around does it still make a sound??? There are hundreds of them, these Zen (Koans, or riddles) are given to monks by their priests and are used to confuse and eventually still the logical mind....this form of Zen Buddhism was favored by the Samurai... also there is a form of Zen called Soto Zen with a focus on moving and sitting meditation..this form was also favored by many Samurai......in this form you "become" meditation and stillness of mind through your daily activities....so everything you do becomes an avenue for meditation....the Japanese Tea ceremony is probably known by many people and relies on this form of Buddhism.... Chan and Zen .....were formed from the simple idea of taking the Eightfold Path in Buddhism which contains: 1. right understanding 2. right thought 3. right speech 4. right action 5. right livelihood 6. right effort 7. right mindfulness 8. right concentration... and condensing them into the 8th Path.....which is "right concentration" or some call it "right meditation"....these forms of Buddhism focus foremost on this factor....there are other forms of Buddhism that focuses more on other areas and contain more ritual etc...... it is a lot like Christianity in that all Christians basically believe in the same thing but their practices are slightly different here and there...Catholics have more ritual....Penecostals have more of an emotional, feeling type of experience....etc.... my opinion is that it is all good...I personally don't care who or what you worship or are in to...as long as you are a good person that is honorable, happy and you don't hurt or mess with other people....I don't feel I have the right to judge anyone while they are living a good life.... Man...I'm really getting in touch with my feminine side here....I'm gonna stop and go watch some Arena Football on TV!!!!! LOL Michael Tomlinson......uhhhh...I practice and believe in Soto Zen... > From: frankclay@msn.com > To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:03:06 -0500 > Subject: [The_Dojang] zen/ch'an > > Mike, > > You are right in that Buddhism on a whole is older than is Zen. You are not > correct in saying that the Zen sect came from Japan. It is the same sect as > Ch'an which came from China and went to Japan. TRhere are lots of legends > around this event and it seems little true fact. The only reason in the west > that we know more about "Zen" than we do "Ch'an" was 1) a proliferation Zen > trained writers and 2) WWII. > > Hope this helps, > > Namu Dai Bosatsu, > ~f > _______________________________________________ > The_Dojang mailing list, 2,300 members > The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _________________________________________________________________ Going green? 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