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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,300 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. 9th Annual Warrior Quest (mdealba@comcast.net) 2. Re: From another Group: forms (B.J. Pritchett) 3. Re: Re: From another Group: forms (Ray) 4. ITF TKD competition (Jye nigma) 5. Jeff (Frank Clay) 6. RE: Full Contact (ruboo52) 7. Kara Empty and China (UNCLASSIFIED) (Dunn, Danny J Mr CIV USA IMCOM) 8. Re: Seeking Basic Technique Advice (Jye nigma) 9. Re: Kara Empty and China (UNCLASSIFIED) (Ray) 10. Balance (Gordon Okerstrom) 11. Sub leaseing (Gordon Okerstrom) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: mdealba@comcast.net To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cc: "Martial Arts Tournaments" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:21:12 +0000 Subject: [The_Dojang] 9th Annual Warrior Quest Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Modern Farang Mu Sul International & I.D.S.C. Present The 9th Annual Warrior Quest Martial Arts Championships Empty Hand Forms – Weapons Forms Stand Up Sparring – Grappling – Weapons Sparring “ The Tournament” of the New Millennium – Be a part of History! When: SAT. June 14, 2007 Reg. at 9am – Competition starts at 10am Where: John O’Connell High School – School Auditorium 2355 Folsom St, San Francisco, CA 94110 (Corner w/20th St) ** Parking Available off of Harrison St. ** Event Donation Schedule: One Event $40 and $5 for each additional event Spectator Donation: $5 Pre-Register by May 20, 2008 and receive $5.00 discount. (It’s like competing in another division for free!) - Also On-Line Pre Registration available: www.farangmusul.com For more information call: (415) 661-9657 or E-mail at: mdealba@comcast.net Sponsored By: Grand Master Michael De Alba & I.D.S.C. Grand Master Michael De Alba Modern Farang Mu Sul Intn’l. PO Box 21 Fulton, CA 95439 -- **CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE** This email communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the designated recipient named above. Distribution, reproduction or any other use of this transmission by any party other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender and delete all copies. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "B.J. Pritchett" To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:16:42 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: From another Group: forms Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings All, I'm not sure why you were looking for the Palgue Patterns, and I know they are not the "official forms" anymore, but if you are like me and you learned them long ago and like to refresh them just 'cause you learned them, here is a good resource for revisiting them: The (Shamelessly) Unofficial Taekwondo Resource located at http://tkd.paperwindow.com/ I now study the ITF forms, but to get my 1dan many years ago I had to know the Palgue and Taegeuk Patterns, so I like to review them occasionally as part of my learned materials Yours in the Arts, BJ Pritchett --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: From another Group: forms Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:08:47 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Or Master Mac's http://mchenry.homeip.net/TangSooDo/forms.htm for most all KMA (TSD, Kukki-TKD, ITF TKD, HKD) forms. Ray Terry thedojang@sbcglobal.net On Apr 20, 2008, at 5:16 PM, B.J. Pritchett wrote: > I'm not sure why you were looking for the Palgue Patterns, and I > know they > are not the "official forms" anymore, but if you are like me and you > learned > them long ago and like to refresh them just 'cause you learned them, > here is > a good resource for revisiting them: ... --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] ITF TKD competition Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Full contact: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YLkc_wtRih8&feature=related Taekwondo ITF Hwang Su Il Highlight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=um8fEkhZwyw&feature=related boards and pretty stuff: http://youtube.com/watch?v=D1scQPhJ4uc&feature=related --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Frank Clay" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:09:21 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Jeff Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jeff, WAAYYY too basic. But then again, you build a house with the bottom brick first. Ok, one of the things I used to do with teaching spin kicks was breaking it down into its core movements. Remember that you are teaching your body a pattern of movement so slow is better at first. Get it right. As you feel comfortable, pick it up. One of the things we did for balance was to start by holding the back of a chair or ballet bar and slowly (isometrically) go through the motion of each kick. Hold at its fullest. If you aren't used to doing it, it may burn a bit but its great exercise and works your muscles in ways you might not normally. These are some of the things we did. You should also practice stance training in various positions. Part of balance has to do with your personal weight distribution which is something you need to learn, or rather your body needs to learn. I leave you with this parting thought from my old teacher... Korean martial arts talks a lot about perseverance but that is really the wrong path. Instead of saying you'll persevere, say you'll give yourself time. That lets you stop and enjoy the journey instead of being focused on the final goal. I Americanized it a bit but I've always liked that thought and I try to live by it.. though since I am Type A sometimes that is definitely not easy. ~f. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "ruboo52" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:49:13 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: Full Contact Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net The Very First Thing I wish to do is Thank every one who responded to my Question of Full Contact. Especially Master Dan Scholten & Ray Terry, When you allowed me the honor and privilege of becoming apart of your your recipients that receive your news letter the Dojang is was a bit skeptical. I have received it for I think about close to a year now. Dan & Ray I really do appreciate the time and effort that you do to publish and the information contained in the Dojang. Again Dan I certainly was not trying to pick on or fault you, I knew by reading these publications that I would get a honest and accurate reply on what Martial artist perceive Full contact to be in the Martial Arts. I have seen so much full contact stuff, But it has nothing to do with the Martial Arts. It's more of out matched brawlers beating each others face in. No morals codes of honor that I associate with being a Martial Artist. I didn't know if this is becoming the new face of Martial Arts. But Thanks to all of you here at The Dojang you have restored my faith in the Martial Arts and it's honors that come with the rank & wisdom will be passed down to generations to come. I to practice full Contact sparring, like the rest of all you Martial Artist. Now I know that I have not lost touch with the times. The Difference in the various degrees of full contact are whether its prating with students or opponents or defending your self from an attacker is the focus point of where the punch, Kick or technique is delivered to. I have seen fights where an opponent would win the match and then sensuously beat there opponents face in or walk around the ring strutting like well you know what I mean then run back over and stomp on this opponents head when he was lying on the ground. But by asking you guys the question I found out that real Martial Artist Such As your selves and many of the ones who responded to my question still practice honor integrity and true Martial Arts. Thanks Ray Terry For The pdf and the web sight info. I really enjoyed reading and seeing some good And controlled Martial Artist compactions. Dan I Like a Master Martial Artist who researches his facts and answers questions honestly and without animosity like you do. your a Fine Martial Artist. Again thanks to all who responded to my question. Sincerely, Sah Dan Keith --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:15:54 -0500 From: "Dunn, Danny J Mr CIV USA IMCOM" To: Subject: [The_Dojang] Kara Empty and China (UNCLASSIFIED) Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Ray, You are correct here. However, according to Funakoshi Sensei, the Japanese pronunciation of "Kara" was used for 2 separate ideograms, the original was the Symbol for the Chinese Tang Dynasty with the common meaning of China, and the second, meaning Empty, he used when he was asked/invited to open a training program in Japan prior to WW II. "Chinese Hand" was commonly used in Okinawa before Kara Te was introduced to the rest of Japan. Would be interesting to see how "Kong" is written, as the Kwans that I am familiar with use the ideogram for the Tang Dynasty, which I know that many Chinese read as China. Danny Dunn <<<>>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Seeking Basic Technique Advice To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Start with stance training. Take one stance from your system and hold that stance in increments of 15mins every week. Keep in mind to stay in this stance keeping proper body mechanics and sinking into the stance. You'll sweat, shake, have pain (the good pain) and it will seem like you can't do it, but that's when you use your intense focus and controlled breathing techniques. Use the breathing techniques your instructor has taught you. When you can hold 1 stance for 60mins then you switch to the next stance in your system. Keep doing this until you have trained every stance in your system. This will develop a strong root, strengthen the legs, making your stances incredible stance, centered and strong, and will increase balance. This method increases balance in a different way, so next you can move on to direct balance exercises. What you can do now is move on to stance-balance training. Hold each stance again, this time on bricks. First have the bricks laying on their face, then on their long side, finally on their short side. By the time you train every stance like this everday, you'll have developed impeccable balance. These exercises will help you with what you're seeking for, but the reason is because you're using proper body mechanics which is sounds like you lose doing your techniques like spin kicks. You also must train in each technique that gives you problems daily, slowly and correctly in order to execute them correctly and quickly. Hope that helps. Now as far as your breathing, I'm gonna keep it real basic. Find a rhythm and breath according to that rhythm. When I do jumping jacks I find a rhythm based on maybe sounds or a pattern or something, so for instance I might breath in when the hands go up or every other time they go up. Then when you finish an exercise that has you breathing hard, just breath in strongly, hold that breath and breath out slowly in a steady controlled rhythm. I was taught this simple method for running track. very basic, very simple, but it takes control because while your hearts pumping fast and your body is trying to get oxygen it feels like you're gonna die when you hold that breath and let it out slowly, but you will find that you will recover quickly as you master that technique. So train your stances, learn and use proper body mechanics, and practice practice practice and you'll be fine. Jye Jeff Rush wrote: The two areas I'm having trouble are balance and breathing. Searching for tips for how to improve one's balance, I seem to only come across two tips: it comes with practice and stand on one leg a lot. I do those but are there other exercises that would help? In particular, I easily lose my balance when doing a spin kick or rapid-repeat front kicks. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Kara Empty and China (UNCLASSIFIED) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:22:37 -0700 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I believe that early on Funakoshi used the name Ryukyu Kempo and then later settled on Kara Te Do (China Hand Way) which to a Korean is romanized as Tang Soo Do. During the time Funakoshi was introducing Ryukyu Kempo / Karate to Japan, Japan was undergoing an extreme nationalistic pressure which eventually resulted in WWII. So an art named China Hand Way was not going to go far in Japan. Thus Funakoshi agreed to change the first Kanji to Empty, giving us Empty Hand Way, yet the romanization remained the same (Kara Te Do). The Kanji for the romanized Kong would be the same as the Kanji for Empty. Ray Terry thedojang@sbcglobal.net On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Dunn, Danny J Mr CIV USA IMCOM wrote: > However, according to Funakoshi Sensei, the > Japanese pronunciation of "Kara" was used for 2 separate ideograms, > the > original was the Symbol for the Chinese Tang Dynasty with the common > meaning of China, and the second, meaning Empty, he used when he was > asked/invited to open a training program in Japan prior to WW II. > "Chinese Hand" was commonly used in Okinawa before Kara Te was > introduced to the rest of Japan. Would be interesting to see how > "Kong" > is written, as the Kwans that I am familiar with use the ideogram for > the Tang Dynasty, which I know that many Chinese read as China. --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Gordon Okerstrom" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:03:28 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Balance Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jeff, in balance training, do you mean that you need better balance in everything or just in your kicks? Being an old boxer, you should be familiar with the jump rope. It's my understanding that the up and down motion in jumping rope not only conditions the muscles; calves, quads and the like, but also trains muscle memory in landing balanced and orients the semicircular canals in the ear that control your sense of balance. -Try jumping rope before difficult aerial kicks. We jump in "chambered stance" to enhance our balance. With your foot chambered in tight to the hip, hands in a good guarding position, jump, up and down like you're jumping rope. As for better balance in stance, Jye is right. Deeper stance training makes the higher stances more solid. You might try moving through your stances while you are too deep in them. Kinda like lung steps. Say, you are in a really deep, long front stance. Step forward or, for that matter, backward while maintaining the depth of you stance. I hurts, but makes you stronger. We also train up and down stairs once in a while. We got this idea from one of our Kenpo stylists. He said, in Kenpo, they trained for all environments and all situations. So fighting on the stair could happen, so, the trained their stances on the stairs. -Ouch! My quads hurt from the memory. Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Gordon Okerstrom" To: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:43:12 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] Sub leaseing Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Jeff posted: We sub lease to a Hawaiian Hula school on Sundays. It's extra income but also extra clean up. Anyone else sub lease their school? Gordon Okerstrom --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest