Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:48:21 +0200 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #147 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on plus11.host4u.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send The_Dojang mailing list submissions to the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of The_Dojang digest..." <<------------------ The_Dojang mailing list ------------------>> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,300 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Ban TKD? (Ray) 2. Re: Ban TKD? (J Hazen) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:18:40 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Ban TKD? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Olympics Should Ban Taekwondo, Judo, Wrestling and Boxing -- Or Add MMA Michael David Smith Jun 4th 2008 Filed under: USA, MMA/Boxing Above you see American taekwondo gold medalist Steven Lopez on the medal stand with his arms around silver medalist Joon Sik Sin of Korea and bronze medalist Hadi Saeibonehkohal of Iran after the three received their medals at the 2000 Games. That's a nice moment shared among three athletes, but it's a moment that I guess a lot of people think never should have happened. After all, in the latest round of hand-wringing about mixed martial arts, we've heard over and over again that MMA is savagery. And if MMA is savagery, the fighting disciplines that are part of MMA must be savagery, too, right? So really, taekwondo shouldn't be an Olympic sport. In a great column at NBCSports.com, Mike Chiappetta makes an important point: Boxing, judo, taekwondo and wrestling are all Olympic sports. How is it that a sport that combines those sports is somehow unacceptable? Follow along here: boxing is an Olympic sport. So is judo and wrestling. Karate, jiu-jitsu and other martial arts forms are studied and respected by millions around the nation, and countless more around the world. Put them all together, though, and critics say it's part of the decline of civilization. Read that again: separately, they are all honorable disciplines, but as one, it's suddenly "street-brawling" or "barbarism," and too violent to be seen. My solution: The International Olympic Committee should either eliminate all sports that involve one-on-one combat, or it should adopt MMA as an Olympic sport. I guess all those MMA critics would vote for the former, but I vote for the latter. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: J Hazen To: The_Dojang Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Ban TKD? Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net R: Olympics Should Ban Taekwondo, Judo, Wrestling and Boxing -- Or Add MMA R: Michael David Smith R: Jun 4th 2008 R: Filed under: USA, MMA/Boxing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma Maybe once MMA has enough worldwide appeal to displace TKD, Judo, Wrestling, or Boxing (or some non-combative sport which is on the decline), it'll get voted in. Once they choose which ruleset to use... ~ Jeff --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest