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RE: new poomsae (Erik Brann) 5. role models (freddie bishop) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] article: Athletic Performance Enhancement From Drugs Could Be Mind Over Matter Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Looks like the rest of the world is stumbling on what we in the MA world already know.   Jye Athletic Performance Enhancement From Drugs Could Be Mind Over Matter19 Jun 2008 A new study from Australia suggests that when given a placebo that they believe to be a performance- enhancing drug, some athletes, especially if they are male, not only believe their performance improves, but actually show real measured improvements in performance, lending support to the idea that "mind over matter", or the power of the mind, plays an important role in the development of athletic prowess. The study, which was funded by the World Anti-Doping Agency and the Australian Government Anti-Doping Research Program, is the work of Jennifer Hansen, RN, lead author and nurse researcher at the Garvan Institute of Medical Research in Sydney, Australia, and was presented at the The Endocrine Society's 90th Annual Meeting in San Francisco, which took place from 15th to 18th June this year. Plans to publish the study in a journal were not mentioned in the press statement. Hansen said that the "placebo" effect they found in their study on how the power of the mind affects physical performance was greater in male recreational athletes than in females. "Athletes are doping with growth hormone to improve sporting performance despite any evidence it actually improves performance, " said Hansen, explaining that she and her colleagues wanted to find out if any improvement in performance was because of the drug itself or because the athlete believed the drug was working. Hansen and colleagues recruited 64 volunteers, all young adult recreational athletes, and randomly assigned them to two groups. One group took a growth hormone (a drug that is banned from use in sports), and the other group took an inactive placebo. Both groups took the drugs for 8 weeks. The study was double blinded, that is neither the athletes nor the drug administrators knew whether they were being given an active drug or a placebo. At the end of the 8 weeks, the researchers asked the athletes to say which agent (growth hormone or placebo) they thought they had taken and if they thought their performance had changed. The volunteers also underwent "before and after" physical performance tests to measure endurance, strength, power and sprint capacity. The results showed that: Men were significantly more likely to think they had received the growth hormone than women. "Incorrect guessers", that is volunteers who took the placebo but thought they were on the growth hormone, believed their performance had improved. Incorrect guessers also showed some real improvement in all the measured tests of performance. This was the same for male and female incorrect guessers. But jump height (measure of power) was the only test to yield significant measured improvement among the incorrect guessers.Hansen said she and her colleagues concluded that: "The results of this study suggest that the placebo effect may be responsible, at least in part, for the perceived athletic benefit of doping with growth hormone for some people." According to the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), human growth hormone (hGH) is banned for both in and out of competition use under the World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) List of Prohibited Substances and Methods. A blood test for hGH was first used at the Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, in the summer of 2004. Other tests are also being developed. hGH is a hormone involved in in cell metabolism and skeletal growth that is synthesized and secreted by cells in the anterior pituitary gland at the base of the brain. It works by stimulating the liver and other tissues to secrete insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1), which in turn encourages processes that grow bone, muscles and organs. Reported side effects include: diabetes in prone individuals; aggravation of cardiovascular diseases; pain in the muscles, joints and bones; high blood pressure and heart problems; abnormal growth of organs; and a hastening of osteoarthritis. People who naturally have too much hGH have many of these symptoms and many have significantly shorter life spans. Source: Endocrine Society, World Anti-Doping Agency. Written by: Catharine Paddock, PhD Copyright: Medical News Today Not to be reproduced without permission of Medical News Today __._,_.___           . __,_._,___ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:49:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: MTV Promotion To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks Mr. Finley. I'm actually working on a couple of projects right now dealing with the MA. I want to start my own MA digital magazine, and an internet MA show. If this works out, I'd like to visit anyone interested on this discussion list. I'll keep you all posted.   Jye --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Jeff Finley wrote: From: Jeff Finley Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: MTV Promotion To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 9:30 AM Well said, Jye.  I am one of your Bible-believing brothers, and I think you surmised the issue perfectly.  The MTV thing (which I used to love,...as a college kid 25 years ago,...when MTV actually showed/played music) is a symptom of the larger problem.  My problem is, I agree with boycotting the "infidels" , but I also agree with pushing for change within our areas of influence (a' la MLK).  I know, fence-straddler, but I see both sides.  If we're parenting correctly, (that's in the Good Book, as well), then we shouldn't have to worry about the decisions our children make.  We need to pray for their wisdom, but raise them in the way they should go.  Not really sure what my point is,...but that's 2 cents worth. Jeff Finley Easley, SC _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] new poomsae To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net One thing I noticed about some made up forms is the lack of meanings in the movements. I think some people who have created forms desired to have flow like in kung fu, and what they developed was meaningless movements that are truly flowery moves.   Jye   --------Original Message----------------------------------------------------- HYung's ,Tuls,poomsae,or kata.What was wrong with doing the pinian forms after all didnt most korean Martial artist just copy and change these forms?I practice the chang han forms(thats what my school taught) but I am not so blind as to realize that general choi and nae ham tae just took what Won Kuk Lee taught and mixed them up and " created all new forms". --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Erik Brann" To: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] new poomsae Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:20:26 -0400 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I think one of the key questions in this is why is the new form being created? Is it for competition, to play to the strengths of the martial artist performing? Is it an exercise for a student as part of a black belt test? (I have never heard of anyone doing this, but when I reach the rank where I feel comfortably starting my own school, I will probably do this.) Is this the attempt by a teacher to blend things learned from various sources? I think forms are crucial to martial arts. Whether the forms are the Pyong Ahn/Heian, the Chang Hon, or a kung fu set, they can have as much or as little impact on a student as the teacher desires. In terms of writing a form, I like to liken it to writing a story, with a beginning/middle/end. Even for Open Forms/Musical Forms I incorporate moves and combinations, which have actual martial arts applications. But then again, That's my personal favorite part. If a form is written to entertain, or showcase talent, as part of competition, it is more or less an athletic demonstration. Thanks, Erik -----Original Message----- From: Jye nigma [mailto:kingjye@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:56 PM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] new poomsae One thing I noticed about some made up forms is the lack of meanings in the movements. I think some people who have created forms desired to have flow like in kung fu, and what they developed was meaningless movements that are truly flowery moves. Jye --------Original Message----------------------------------------------------- HYung's ,Tuls,poomsae,or kata.What was wrong with doing the pinian forms after all didnt most korean Martial artist just copy and change these forms?I practice the chang han forms(thats what my school taught) but I am not so blind as to realize that general choi and nae ham tae just took what Won Kuk Lee taught and mixed them up and " created all new forms". _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: freddie bishop To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] role models Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net When I was young, my dad was my first role model. During my teenage years it was my Tae Kwon Do instructor, Master Young Chul Chung! Fred --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest