Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:48:22 +0200 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #209 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Long live the US Taekwondo Committee (-) 2. Re: Don't know about this one (Jeff Hazen) 3. Re: Abdallah and olympic TKD (Cmoserkma@aol.com) 4. Fw: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #194 -RE: Specific Form At A Specific Rank (Robert Burns) 5. USAT events update (Ray) 6. RE: hapkido (J R Hilland) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:47:09 -0700 From: - To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Long live the US Taekwondo Committee Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You were right. The kukkiwon backed United States Taekwondo Federation had to do a name change and do it quickly. The name US TKD Fed was already taken so we were forced to move fast. The new name is now the United States Taekwondo Committee. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Hazen To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Don't know about this one Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You could probably block the demo guy's round kick that way... it's closer to a snap kick delivered horizontally than a real round kick, imo. Not much hip. ~ Jeff On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Jye nigma had this to say: Jn: I see what this guy is saying but I personally would never want to be at the Jn: end of a round house kick because even when you do block it like he demoed, Jn: you're still receiving all that energy. I'd rather either step out of that Jn: person's range, or cut their leg off so that the power in the kick is past me. Jn: here's the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrjcWTmPv5M&feature=user Jn:   Jn: Jye Jn: _______________________________________________ Jn: The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members Jn: The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Jn: Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Jn: Standard disclaimers apply Jn: Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Cmoserkma@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:56:09 EDT Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Abdallah and olympic TKD To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 8/4/2008 11:43:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kingjye@yahoo.com writes: I agree... I couldn't even sit through the whole match. It was sooooo boring and awful. *Kick-kick grab, kick kick grab....* sickening. Jye --- On Mon, 8/4/08, David Weller wrote: From: David Weller Subject: [The_Dojang] Abdallah and olympic TKD To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:18 AM It is no wonder our art gets no respect. What an absolutely boring, awful match. I've seen tiny-tots in the 5 and under division fight harder. Here's the recipe: Bounce around for 30- 40 seconds. Throw one, maybe 2 kicks. Repeat until the fans have fallen asleep. Neither person deserves a win in my book, simply because they did not fight. The only part of the match that even bore a vague resemblance to a fight was the "sudden death" part of the match, but even that was an awful joke. I was rather looking forward to the Olympics, but if theses are the "elite of the elite" in TKD fighting, I'll probably be in for a disappointment. Pretty sad. dave weller PS. it DID look like abdallah got the first point in the last round, but by that time, who could expect the judges to be awake and alert after being hypnotized by that god-awful bouncing around for the 1st 3 rounds? On Aug 3, 2008, at 7:48 PM, the_dojang- request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > Supporters say Abdallah has been robbed of her Olympic dream and > are urging > Tae Kwon Do athletes and enthusiasts to turn their backs just > before Lopez > competes in Beijing. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Burns To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Fw: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #194 -RE: Specific Form At A Specific Rank Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Fernando: Our School teaches the "SongMooKwan" or (Pine Tree) system of Tae Kwondo.  OMAC has similar steps to black belt, however, we use both Taegeuk and Palgwe forms, and teach Koryo long before reaching 1st Dan. 10 Gup - Kicho IL Jang (basic form) with 5 "one-steps"  No-Belt to White Belt   9 Gup - Kicho Ee Dan and Taegeuk IL Jang with 5 "one steps" White to Yellow Belt   8 Gup - Palgwe IL Dan and Taegeuk Ee Jang with 5 "one steps" Yellow to Orange Belt   7 Gup - Palgwe Ee Dan and "Dosan" with 5 "one steps"  Orange to Light Blue Belt   6 Gup - Palgwe Sam Dan and Taegeuk Sam Jang with 5 "one steps"  Light Blue to Green Belt   5 Gup - Palgwe Sa Dan and Taegeuk Sa Jang with 5 "one steps" Green to Purple Belt   4 Gup - Palgwe Oh Dan and Taegeuk Oh Jang with 5 "one steps" Purple to Brown Belt   3 Gup - Palgwe Yuk Dan and Yil Goh with 5 "one steps" Brown to Red Belt   2 Gup - Palgwe Chil Dan and Taegeuk Yuk with 5 "one steps" Red to Dark Blue Belt (2nd Gup)   1 Gup - Palgwe Pal Dan, Geumsahn, and  Ro Hai with 7 "one steps" Dark Blue (2nd Gup) to Dark Blue (1st Gup)    Recommended Black (Black with white stripe) - Koryo, Chulgi IL, Bal Sec Tae and same 7 "one Steps" During this final learning and testing time, the Recommended Black Belt student must demonstrate proficiency in all forms and self-defenses, write a three (3) page Thesis on "What Tae Kwando Means To Me in My Life" participate in a six (6) hour meditation (45 minutes seated with hands folded in lap) and seated on small cushion, in proper position without any noticeable movement....then five (5) minute break between each 45 minute session for water and bathroom breaks, but no food), and three (3) days of fasting with only water, green tea (1 tsp. honey allowed per cup) and watered-down fruit juice, but otherwise no solid food, pills, or medicine (except for diabetics and necessary medicine as prescribed....and that is discouraged);  On the day of Black Belt testing, the "Recommended" students must be present during the "color-belt" testing from 8:30 a.m. that morning, and be available to assist the color belt testing students and other participants, until it is their turn to test, which isn't until about 2 or 3 p.m. that afternoon.  They are allowed "energy bars" to snack on, but otherwise no other solid food.  During testing, they demonstrate not only the Poomsee requirements and self-defense requirements, but proficiency with the "long-staff" (5 forms) and the "bamboo sword" (5 forms plus warm-up exercises), plus two (2) one-minute sparring sessions, and finally, arrange and set up five (5) "semi-static opponents holding a single pine "adult" board to be attacked and broken, and then finally, break a 14" X 8" X 2" (thick) precast concrete brick mounted on two concrete blocks (house blocks) using the "knife-hand" striking technique (brick may be covered by single-layered small towel to avoid damage to hand when brick breaks). Just thought you might be interested in what my school does and how we try to maintain true Martial Arts Spirit. Yours in the Martial Arts, Bob Burns, 2nd Dan  OMAC Indiana/Ohio/Crystal River, FL     7. RE: Specific Form At A Specific Rank (Ferdinand "Fernando" Perez) With this most recent talk about what rank Koryo is taught, I thought I would express the arrangement that I was brought up with.  It shows what form we were taught while at a specific rank. 0 Gup - Kibon Poomse IL Jang (basic form - 1) 10 Gup - Kibon Poomse E Jang (basic form - 2) 9 Gup - Kibon Poomse SAM Jang (basic form - 3) 8 Gup - Taegeuk IL Jang 7 Gup - Taegeuk E Jang 6 Gup - Taegeuk SAM Jang 5 Gup - Taegeuk SA Jang 4 Gup - Taegeuk OH Jang 3 Gup - Taegeuk YOOK Jang 2 Gup - Taegeuk CHIL Jang 1 Gup - Taegeuk PAL Jang 1 Dan - Koryo 2 Dan - Keumgang etc. Curious how others differ. _______________________________________________ --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:48:11 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] USAT events update Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net August 6, 2008 USA TAEKWONDO SANCTIONED EVENTS: UPDATE Hello Taekwondo Fans & Friends, USA Taekwondo has just wrapped up another successful USAT event season where we saw tremendous talent from all ages all across the country. This talent was highlighted a month ago at our 2008 USAT Junior Olympics and Senior National Championships, in Detroit, MI. Once again USAT would like to congratulate all the winners from the Championship events and hopes to see everyone again at the 2009 USAT Junior Olympics and Senior National Championships. As the 2008 USAT Event Season has come to a close, we at the USAT Events Department would like to remind you of some great taekwondo events still happening in 2008. The following events are all sanctioned by USA Taekwondo and will be a great way to finish the 2008 year and prepare for the 2009 year and a start of the new Olympic Quadrennium. STANFORD UNIVERSITY INTERNATIONAL TKD SUMMER CAMP Date: August 9-14, 2008 Ford Center for Sports & Recreation 365 Galvez St. Stanford, CA 94305 Contact: Tim Ghormley, tghormley@gostanford.com More info: Http://tkd.stanford.edu/summercamp/ CALIFORNIA Jr. TAEKWONDO CHAMPIONSHIPS Date: October 4, 2008 Cal State University, Fullerton 800 N. State College Blvd. Fullerton, CA 92831 Contact: James Lee or Angelica Han, cajrtkd@hotmail.com (213) 220.1771 / (909) 973.5580 More Info: www.jrtkd.com 2008 U.S. WORLD CLASS INVITATIONAL Date: October 13-17, 2008 Carnival Ship Paradise More Info: www.tkdatsea.com 7TH INTERNATIONAL FRIENDSHIP TAEKWONDO CHAMPIONSHIPS Date: October 24-25, 2008 Oregon Convention Center 777 NE MLK Jr. Blvd. Portland, OR 97232 Contact: Karen Blackledge, info@ioftc.org More Info: www.IOFTC.org MAUI OPEN TAEKWONDO CHAMPIONSHIPS Date: December 6, 2008 Lahaina Civic Center 1840 Hono'apiilani Hwy Lahaina, HI 96761 Contact: Gunter Kiffman, info@mauiopentkd.com More Info: www.mauiopentkd.com 2008 USAT ROCKY MOUNTAIN OPEN Date: December 6 & 7, 2008 Olympic Training Center - Colorado Springs 1 Olympic Plaza Colorado Springs, CO 80909 Contact: Travis Oosthoek, Travis.Oosthoek@usa-taekwondo.us (719) 866.3624 More Info: www.USA-Taekwondo.us --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "J R Hilland" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:51:44 -0500 Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: hapkido Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net <<>> Bravo Brother Michael! Of course the other 10% comes from not really knowing the technique! :) JRH www.HapkidoSelfDefense.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest