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Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Korean Martial Arts. 2,400 members. See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of The_Dojang at http://MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Today's Topics: 1. Flying side-kick (Jeff Finley) 2. Craig advances (Ray) 3. Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #220 - Run Jump (Flying) Side kick (Joel Weissler) 4. Re: Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #220 - Run Jump (Flying) Side kick (Jye nigma) 5. Taekwondo medal hopeful Gonda loses first bout (Donne Flanagan) 6. Craig does not advance (Ray) 7. Host China, Mexico Win Gold (Ray) 8. hook kick help (John Gonzales) 9. Day 1 results (Ray) 10. Re: hook kick help (Jye nigma) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Finley To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Flying side-kick Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Greetings from Upstate SC.  We have been doing the flying side kick since about blue-belt.  Sometimes we do it over a rope (tied to the wall and held by an instructor to control height).  Sometimes, we jump over a stack of pads.  I believe it is good for many reasons:  Strength, balance (landing), coordination (in a word,...agility),..and confidence.  It is in our curriculum of kicks right around the blue-belt level.  I can think of numerous applications in "real life".    I am drawn, and encourage fellows students, to embrace all the acrobatic kicks.  Not necessarily because of real world applications (for those that need that kind of constant validation; there's a kick-brawling school down the street), but because our art is all about those elements of jumping, spinning, turning, changing direction, etc.  To be able to execute these type of kicks bespeaks a deeper understanding and level of skill. Jeff Finley --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:52:47 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Craig advances Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charlotte Craig Advances to Quarterfinals of Olympic Games August 20, 2008 Olympic flyweight Charlotte Craig (Murietta, CA) started off her Olympic competition with a 4-0 win over Switzerland's Manuela Bezzola at the Beijing University of Science and Technology Gymnasium. Craig built a 3-0 lead in the first round and maintained control throughout the remainder of the contest. She moves on to the quarterfinals to face Venezuela's Dalia Contreras Rivero who defeated Craig last December in the semifinals of the Pan Am Olympic Qualifier, 5-3. That match will take place at 3:30 p.m. (3:30 a.m. EDT) and can be seen live at http://www.NBCOlympics.com. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:20:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Weissler To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #220 - Run Jump (Flying) Side kick Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Sorry to chime in late. I was surprised at the responses. My old school MDK trained Korean instructor taught us the flying side kick as an entering move. An entering move which just might make contact. It was taught as a good technique to use entering a fight. You covered ground. Those seeing you coming would usually get out of your way. A melee participant not paying attention (to you who was not yet part of the action) could be powerfully struck (Admittedly he also did mention the old knocking off horse history). Respectfully - Joel Weissler --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #220 - Run Jump (Flying) Side kick To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net You can enter a fight like that, and I'll put money on whoever enters like that will leave on a stretcher.   Jye --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Joel Weissler wrote: From: Joel Weissler Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #220 - Run Jump (Flying) Side kick To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:20 AM Sorry to chime in late. I was surprised at the responses. My old school MDK trained Korean instructor taught us the flying side kick as an entering move. An entering move which just might make contact. It was taught as a good technique to use entering a fight. You covered ground. Those seeing you coming would usually get out of your way. A melee participant not paying attention (to you who was not yet part of the action) could be powerfully struck (Admittedly he also did mention the old knocking off horse history). Respectfully - Joel Weissler _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:15:51 -0500 From: "Donne Flanagan" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Taekwondo medal hopeful Gonda loses first bout Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Taekwondo medal hopeful Gonda loses first bout By: Julie Scott Updated: August 20 at 08:46 AM CDT BEIJING -- When Ivett Gonda nails a headshot, she knows it because she can feel her opponent's face on her foot. Today she knew she buried a kick in Sweden's Hanna Zajc's head a couple times in their first-round taekwondo match at the Beijing Olympics. But the points weren't showing up on the scoreboard. The 22-year-old Port Moody, B.C., native, was considered a medal contender heading into the Games but lost 2-0 to Zajc in the 49-kilogram class and was eliminated from the tournament at the University of Science and Technology Beijing Gymnasium. "I don't know why (the judges) weren't pressing (the button) today," said Gonda. Gonda's coach Shin Wook Lim has a theory. He suggested that Chinese judge Zhao Lei may have been stingy with points for Gonda because she would have faced reigning world champion Wu Jingyu in the next round. Wu went on to easily beat Zajc en route to the gold medal. "I can't say for sure but she made a point but (didn't receive) a point," said Lim, who often threw his hands up in frustration during the match. "Must be the machine's broken, I don't know. Other coaches were surprised. It's not only coming from me emotionally." Gonda appeared to have landed at least two kicks to Zajc's head, one in the first round and one in the third round. Each one would have been worth two points. But the judges disagreed. "It's not the first time I've been ripped off quite bad," said Gonda. "I could either crawl up and cry about it like a big baby or I can just accept it, move on and take it to the next experience." In taekwondo, there is a judge at each corner of the mat. Points are awarded for blows to the chest and head. Three of the four judges need to agree that contact has been made and push an electronic button for points to be awarded. The Canadians launched a protest of the result but officials reviewed the tape and didn't feel that she had landed the disputed kicks and the protest was rejected. Technical delegates onsite and Zhao refused requests for an interview. It was a similar story in Athens four years ago. Gonda was in the semifinals before losing 3-2 to the eventual gold medallist. Officials with the Canadian taekwondo team still believe Gonda should have won the semi, arguing that the judges didn't give her points for some blows she landed. She ended up finishing fifth. It's not the first time a Canadian coach has complained about unfair judging at these Games. Gymnastics coach Edouard Iarov was irate with the scores his team received in the men's qualification round and accused some of the event referees of conspiring to help their own countries. Unfair judging has long plagued taekwondo. Lim and Gonda say if the sport wants to remain in the Olympics it needs to fix the problem, perhaps by going to an electronic system. This would mean the athletes' protective gear would have sensors inside to record when a blow is landed. "I think it will affect our sport drastically," said Gonda. "I think with better technology of the chest gear, with the right equipment, I think it is moving in the right direction." Gonda says the new system has been tested but that it's still not foolproof. It was used in the European qualifier and received negative reviews, Gonda said. "People have still been getting ripped off with it because they don't know how to adjust it properly," said Gonda. "It's still very debatable." Gonda says that after her loss she was approached in the training area by other coaches and athletes, who said she had deserved the win. "It's pretty out in the open and obvious about how the judging's been going so far," said Gonda. "A lot of unfair judging's been going on." It's not what the World Taekwondo Federation wants to hear. Earlier this week, during a meeting with the 29 referees who are officiating the Olympic tournament, WTF president Chungwon Choue stressed how important it is to have fair judging. "For the sake of our athletes, for the sake of taekwondo's future, and for our due respect for the Olympism, it is our responsibility to ensure that only the best athletes become worthy champions and that the colour of the athlete's medal represents his or her true athletic talent," Choue said, adding that any referees or judges involved in inappropriate conduct will not be allowed to officiate at WTF events. The WTF also organized an Olympic referee refresher course in Beijing last July to help ensure fair play. Gonda says she's not the only one to notice the unbalanced officiating in Beijing. "It's not just me," she said. "Other athletes in the warm-up are experiencing it." But Swiss coach Niko Kricka, who didn't see Gonda's bout, says he doesn't think the judging has been any more unfair in Beijing than at other competitions. "Sure there are some problems like usual," he said. "Not more or less than other tournaments. But something has to be changed." Lim hopes that this incident will be a step toward that change. "Everybody's talking about it," he said. "This hopefully means change for the future. So she has to sacrifice for everybody." Despite her Olympic dream being shattered a second time, Gonda was remarkably calm after her bout, taking the result in stride. "I can only laugh about it," the blond said with a big smile. "Cry or laugh. I'd rather laugh. I had a little tear come out. But I have to suck it up and be positive about it." Gonda says she's not going to dwell on this disappointment and will consider returning to the Olympics four years from now in London. "I don't regret anything that happened in the ring," she said. "Coming here, I knew it's not in my hands. "Judges are judges," she said. "That's how the day went. I have to accept it." The Canadian Press --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:03:07 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Craig does not advance Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Charlotte Craig Does Not Advance to Olympic Repechage August 20, 2008 After losing her quarterfinal match of the Olympic Games on Wednesday to Venezuela's Dalia Contreras Rivero, 3-2, flyweight Charlotte Craig (Murietta, Calif.), 17, was forced to play a two-hour waiting game to see if she would qualify for the repechage round and a chance for a bronze medal. But when Contreras Rivero lost on a referee superiority decision in the semifinals to Thailand's Butree Puedpong, after the two fought a scoreless overtime period, Craig was eliminated from the competition. "I figured her strategy was to wait for me and my game is to be aggressive," said Craig of her quarterfinal match with Contreras Rivero."My problem was that she got the first point so I had to push it." Craig was obviously disappointed with the day's outcome, saying she was more nervous waiting around for the chance at the repechage than she was competing in the ring, but she carries with her an Olympic Games experience. "I'm just happy I got a chance to represent my country," Craig said. Taekwondo competition continues on Thursday with featherweights Diana and Mark Lopez (Sugar Land, Texas) in action for the U.S. Diana's first match is at 10:00 a.m. (Wednesday 10:00 p.m. EDT) against Thailand's Premwaew Chonnapas, while Mark Lopez faces Afghanistan's Nesar Ahmad Behave at 11:30 a.m. (Wednesday 11:30 p.m. EDT) in the first round. All matches can be seen live at www.NBCOlympics.com. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:10:13 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Host China, Mexico Win Gold Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Host China, Mexico Win Gold on 1st Day of Taekwondo Competition at Beijing Olympic Games 20 Aug 2008 Host China and Mexico showed their supremacy in taekwondo as they won one gold medal each on the opening day of the takwondo competition at the Beijing Olympic Games on Aug. 20, 2008. The Dominican Republic and Thailand took the silver medal each, the first medal in the Olympic taekwondo competition. In its first-ever participation in the Olympic taekwondo competition, Afghanistan also won the first medal in its Olympic history, as Rohullah Nikpai won the bronze medal in the men’s -58kg category. At a jam-packed University of Science and Technology Beijing (USTB) Gymnasium in Beijing, China’s Wu Jing Yu, the gold medalist at the 2007 WTF World Taekwondo Championships, defeated Thailand’s Buttree Puedpong, the first placer at the 2007 SEA Games, in the women’s -49kg final match to earn her country the gold medal. “I have been waiting for this day for a long time,” Wu said after the final match. “I’m very excited now. I want to thank all the people who have helped me along the way. This is a reward for them.” “It is a breakthrough for China in this weight division because no Chinese have won a gold in this before,” she said. In the same division, the bronze went to Venezuela’s Dalia Contreras Rivero, the second finisher at the WTF Pan American Taekwondo Qualification Tournament, and Cuba’s Daynellis Montejo, the silver medalist at the WTF World Taekwondo Qualification Tournament. In the men’s -58kg final, Guillermo Perez of Mexico, the second finisher at the 2007 WTF World Taekwondo Championships, needed a fourth round to brush aside a stiff challenge of Gabriel Mercedes of the Dominican Republic for the gold medal. “Finally my dream came true. I want to thank all the people who have supported me and thank all the people who have supported taekwondo,” she said after the final match. He said of his final-match opponent that “He is very strong and he fought very aggressively and he moved very quickly. His tactics are also very good.” Mr. Mercedes, born in November 1979, was the third finisher at the WTF Pan American Taekwondo Qualification Tournament. The bronze in the men’s -58kg class went to Afghanistan’s Rohullah Nikpai and Mu Yen Chu of Chinese Taipei, the gold medalist at the WTF World Taekwondo Qualification Tournament. In the repechage round, Nikpai, the second finisher at the WTF Asian Taekwondo Qualification Tournament for the Beijing Olympic Gaems, defeated Spain’s Juan Antonio Ramos to earn his country the bronze medal. Starting with the Beijing Olympic Games, two bronze medals are awarded in each taekwondo weight category. A total of 128 athletes from a record 64 countries are vying for 32 medals up for grabs. The first day of competition was held in a very orderly manner. The second day of the taekwondo competition on Aug. 21 will feature the women’s under 57kg category and the men’s under 68kg category. --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:36:49 -0400 From: "John Gonzales" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] hook kick help Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net I am havign trouble gettign the hook kick down. I ultimately end up having my leg hook one way and my upper body leans the other way. The irony is my sliding hook and spinning hook seem fine, its just the back leg hook kick that is an eyesore. Any suggestions to improve my form and technique. Thanks John -- John M. Gonzales Jr., M.A., M.S. We are the measure of all things, And the beauty of our creation, of all of our art, is proportional to the beauty of ourselves, of our soul's. - Jonas Mekas --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:53:10 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Day 1 results Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Beijing Olympic Taekwondo Competition Results (Day 1) Competition Results on Day 1 (2008. 8. 20) - Women’s -49kg Category - Gold : Wu Jingyu (China) Silver : Buttree Puedpong (Thailand) Bronze : Dalia Contreras Rivero (Venezuela) Daynellis Montejo (Cuba) - Men’s -58kg Category - Gold : Guillermo Perez (Mexico) Silver : Gabriel Mercedes (Dominican Republic) Bronze : Rohullah Nikpai (Afghanistan) --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jye nigma Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] hook kick help To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net that's one of my favorite kicks. Try using a support bar (think ballerina's bar infront of wall mirror) and execute the kick slowly with control. *if you don't practice your kicks slowly and very controlled, this is gonna kick your butt, but hang in there and just relax while doing it. Do this everyday several reps on BOTH sides. This will help you with the proper mechanics of the kick, as well as strengthen the muscles used in the kick.   If you don't have access to a bar like that use something you can lean back on. Mix this training with targets as you go on for pinpoint accuracy in executing this kick.   Jye --- On Wed, 8/20/08, John Gonzales wrote: From: John Gonzales Subject: [The_Dojang] hook kick help To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:36 PM I am havign trouble gettign the hook kick down. I ultimately end up having my leg hook one way and my upper body leans the other way. The irony is my sliding hook and spinning hook seem fine, its just the back leg hook kick that is an eyesore. Any suggestions to improve my form and technique. Thanks John -- John M. Gonzales Jr., M.A., M.S. We are the measure of all things, And the beauty of our creation, of all of our art, is proportional to the beauty of ourselves, of our soul's. - Jonas Mekas _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 2,400 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://the-dojang.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/the_dojang Copyright 1994-2008: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of The_Dojang Digest