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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: joint recovery? (J R Hilland)
   2. Re: Rank and time (J R Hilland)
   3. Re: RE: joint recovery? (James O'Connor)
   4. time in rank (Master Mark Seidel)
   5. Happy holidays (Rudy Timmerman)
   6. Thanksgiving (Ray)

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Message: 1
From: "J R Hilland" <hapkido@far.midco.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:17:44 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] RE: joint recovery?
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Jay, in hapkido we spend A LOT of time on joint manipulation techniques and
the most important thing about to stretch them out REALLY good before and
after work on the mats with a partner. Every technique that can be done
against someone has a stretch associated with it. If that is done nothing
else should be needed. Do you do those?

Jere R. Hilland
www.rrhapkido.com
Happy Thanksgiving!

<<<I was wondering if there was anything you can use to treat joints (mostly
wrists) after a night of hoshinsul. I already do Glucosamine/
Chondroitin/MSM for general joint health but just curious if I could do
anything to help recovery after a good nights practice for me and
my older children who train with me (advil? warm water soaking? anything to
rub?)

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Message: 2
From: "J R Hilland" <hapkido@far.midco.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:07:23 -0600
Subject: [The_Dojang] Re: Rank and time
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

<<<I hasten to remind everyone here that in New York we have a Korean
instructor that came to America a 5th dan and became a 9th dan 6 months
later.>>>

We used to call those boat ranks. Now I guess we can call them plane ranks.
I am surprised that it took 6 months. Usually it happens before the wheels
touch the ground.

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Message: 3
From: James O'Connor <jay.oconnor@comcast.net>
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] RE: joint recovery?
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:39:20 -0700
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

On Nov 26, 2008, at 2:17 PM, J R Hilland wrote:

> Jay, in hapkido we spend A LOT of time on joint manipulation  
> techniques and
> the most important thing about to stretch them out REALLY good  
> before and
> after work on the mats with a partner. Every technique that can be  
> done
> against someone has a stretch associated with it. If that is done  
> nothing
> else should be needed. Do you do those?

I have some wrist stretches I do myself before starting, maybe not  
extensively enough

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Message: 4
From: "Master Mark Seidel" <mastermark@comcast.net>
To: <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Cc: <mhseidel@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:41:50 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] time in rank
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

I think the point of mind time vs. practice time is being missed. Mind time
comes from years of contemplation, observation, meditation and maturity as a
martial artist, not just the skill of the physical art. Take the Baltimore
Ravens football team's new Quarter Back Joe Flacco his physical skills are
impressive but his mind skills need years of maturing to catch up to a Bret
Farve.

 

Most MA Instructors have never been in a real fight, what they have mastered
would never work under true adrenaline response conditions where fine motor
skills do not work. Years of practicing  a life style of peace serve you
better to avoid ever needing to use it(martial force) in the first place.

Martial Artists with real combat experience know exactly what I mean when
fighting next to someone fresh out of a Military Academy vs an enlisted man
with 10 years real combat training. 

 

Rank can sometime be just that, "RANK" pardon the pun. Time however can only
be measured by itself.

 

Mark

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Rick Clark [mailto:rick.aodenkou@verizon.net]

Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:54 AM

To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] dan rank

 

Hi Michael,

 

I have a question for you about time in rank, and a real life example of why
I have a problem with setting standards for "time in rank".

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Message: 5
To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
From: Rudy Timmerman <kwanjang@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:54:58 -0500
Subject: [The_Dojang] Happy holidays
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Hello all.  I wish to send my US friends on the DD a very happy  
Thanksgiving holiday.

Warmest personal regards
Rudy

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Message: 6
From: Ray <thedojang@sbcglobal.net>
To: The_Dojang <the_dojang@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:35:25 -0800
Subject: [The_Dojang] Thanksgiving
Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net

Hoping all have a thankful Thanksgiving.

Ray 


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