Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:48:21 +0100 From: the_dojang-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: The_Dojang digest, Vol 15 #337 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: the_dojang-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: The Internet's premier discussion forum on Korean Martial Arts. 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Skip dan (Robert Martin) 2. Leona Helmsley on skipping dans (zisheged@aol.com) 3. Two comments (Ray) 4. RE: Captain Chris Pizzo????? (Master Mark Seidel) 5. Re: Captain Chris Pizzo????? (Daniel Begley) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Robert Martin" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:17:45 -0700 Subject: [The_Dojang] Skip dan Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net So what you're saying is that they are "Kukking" the books? Sorry, couldn't resist. Robert Martin -- __--__-- What these examples had in common... the person was a full-time instructor, running a full-time dojang, thus adding more Kukki-TKD Dan ranked students to the Kukkiwon's books. Ray -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4865 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message --__--__-- Message: 2 To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:18:38 -0500 From: zisheged@aol.com Subject: [The_Dojang] Leona Helmsley on skipping dans Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net If Leona Helmsley were alive today, she's say, "Only the little people train time in grade for promotions"!?? Frank Clay was quite correct in pointing out the original kwan heads were skipped in dan and their students as well. I have written before about a guy I know that went from 5th to 9th. My point is whereas that was an exceptional path for some it is now legitimized for everyone. Any society can tolerate some corruption. When it gets too great it falls apart. Note the Roman empire.? For sure this multiple dan skip program will destroy us for sure. Zeishe --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray To: The_Dojang Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:59:09 -0800 Subject: [The_Dojang] Two comments Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net To Robert... Boooo.... :) To Sid... Yep the sky is falling. Better run back to your bomb shelter. Ray --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Master Mark Seidel" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Captain Chris Pizzo????? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:13:20 -0500 Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Capt Chris aka Lt X hung around Carl Cestari (a legitimate Bad Ass) and did some cheap DVD's he lost credibility when he started to rip off a lot of people with credit card charges for stuff they never ordered and his mantra that legitimate Martial Arts don't work in a real situation. Stay away!!! Mark -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Begley [mailto:danandariane@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:54 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Captain Chris Pizzo????? Anyone have info on this Captain Chris Pizzo. I got an E-mail about him. Thanks Dan __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:13:09 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Begley Subject: Re: [The_Dojang] Captain Chris Pizzo????? To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Thanks Mark for the info. Don't know how he got my E-mail address. ________________________________ From: Master Mark Seidel To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Cc: mhseidel@comcast.net Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:13:20 PM Subject: RE: [The_Dojang] Captain Chris Pizzo????? Capt Chris aka Lt X hung around Carl Cestari (a legitimate Bad Ass) and did some cheap DVD's he lost credibility when he started to rip off a lot of people with credit card charges for stuff they never ordered and his mantra that legitimate Martial Arts don't work in a real situation. Stay away!!! Mark -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Begley [mailto:danandariane@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:54 AM To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [The_Dojang] Captain Chris Pizzo????? Anyone have info on  this Captain Chris Pizzo. I got an E-mail about him. Thanks Dan __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! 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